Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Advocacy Advisors] Transparency and right to be forgotten notices from search engines

2014-08-07 Thread Simon Knight
Bear in mind Pine that the RTBF request need not be from the subject of the article (so BLP NPOV are less relevant), it could be someone mentioned peripherally. The link suppression would also only relate to search terms about /that/ person, rather than the main subject, just to muddy the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Advocacy Advisors] Transparency and right to be forgotten notices from search engines

2014-08-07 Thread Pine W
Thanks Simon. Back to Trillium's point, I don't think we should vilify people solely for making a removal request, but nor should we censor verifiable and notable information that complies with our policies just because the subject dislikes it, and we should be transparent about requests for

Re: [Wikimedia-l] let's elect people to serve on the wikimedia engineering community team! (brainstorming)

2014-08-07 Thread Quim Gil
Meta comment: if our common goal is to increase collaboration, then we need to excel ourselves in this collaboration precisely. If we minority of tech-aware contributors are being confrontational between ourselves, then we can only expect to nurture more confrontation than collaboration among the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] let's elect people to serve on the wikimedia engineering community team! (brainstorming)

2014-08-07 Thread Pine W
Quim, can you clarify your comments about the Technology Committee? The committee is my proposal as a community member; it is not a top-down, Board-created idea. Its membership is designed to be broadly representative of the MediaWiki user community. The Board mandate is necessary to give TechCom

Re: [Wikimedia-l] let's elect people to serve on the wikimedia engineering community team! (brainstorming)

2014-08-07 Thread pi zero
On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 3:33 AM, Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org wrote: I think the core of the problem is how to increase the participation of tech-curious contributors, and how to structure it in a way that informs, influences, and actually joins the development process effectively. How can we

Re: [Wikimedia-l] let's elect people to serve on the wikimedia engineering community team! (brainstorming)

2014-08-07 Thread Quim Gil
About https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_noticeboard#Suggestion_for_the_Board:_Technology_Committee On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: Quim, can you clarify your comments about the Technology Committee? The committee is my proposal as a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] let's elect people to serve on the wikimedia engineering community team! (brainstorming)

2014-08-07 Thread geni
On 7 August 2014 00:56, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: I'll stand by what I said previously. The community liaisons (two Is) are currently in the role of trying to sell the community on bad software. Good software, surprisingly, doesn't need hired community liaisons to roam around the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] let's elect people to serve on the wikimedia engineering community team! (brainstorming)

2014-08-07 Thread David Gerard
On 8 August 2014 01:29, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote: On 7 August 2014 00:56, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: I'll stand by what I said previously. The community liaisons (two Is) are currently in the role of trying to sell the community on bad software. Good software, surprisingly,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] let's elect people to serve on the wikimedia engineering community team! (brainstorming)

2014-08-07 Thread MZMcBride
David Gerard wrote: Unfortunately - and we quite definitely saw this in the VE introduction - it leaves a lot of them in the position of customer service ablative firewall, the designated targets of people's frustration. Yep. At least one of the on-wiki comments by a liaison made me do a

[Wikimedia-l] Selfie of the Ape - The Copyright Wars

2014-08-07 Thread Jens Best
Selfie of the Ape - The Copyright Wars - http://youtu.be/E8y1bhEj7j8 A Selfie Defines An Ape As It Defines A Human Being. Just made a short Trailer. Have fun. best regards Jens -- -- Jens Best Präsidium Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. web: http://www.wikimedia.de mail: jens.best

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Selfie of the Ape - The Copyright Wars

2014-08-07 Thread Everton Zanella Alvarenga
Este vídeo apresenta conteúdo de FOX, Budiey Dot Com Media e TV Bandeirantes (Brazil). Um desses parceiros (ou mais) bloqueou o conteúdo com base nos direitos autorais. Which mean this movie cannot be watched in Brazil due to copyright reasons. Funny enough I was going to send a message to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Selfie of the Ape - The Copyright Wars

2014-08-07 Thread Jens Best
Yeah, just seen that youtube was quick on that one. Here is the Dropbox-Link. https://www.dropbox.com/sh/mifna71hgqi14mj/AAChbDTbcsu0t_esvxIMkMq0a?lst Vimeo is coming up soon. Jens 2014-08-08 4:33 GMT+02:00 Everton Zanella Alvarenga everton.alvare...@okfn.org: Este vídeo apresenta

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Selfie of the Ape - The Copyright Wars

2014-08-07 Thread Jens Best
And Vimeo-Link (let's see how long this lasts) https://vimeo.com/102892584 have fun Jens 2014-08-08 4:36 GMT+02:00 Jens Best jens.b...@wikimedia.de: Yeah, just seen that youtube was quick on that one. Here is the Dropbox-Link.