Re: [Wikimedia-l] Superprotect user right, Coming to a wiki near you

2014-08-17 Thread Chad Horohoe
On Aug 17, 2014 6:49 AM, Richard Farmbrough rich...@farmbrough.co.uk wrote: There are 105 bugs open for Media Viewer. To my mind that is not a product that is ready to be delivered to 500,000,000 users, delivering 52.5 billion bugs! (And that's just the ones we know about!) MediaWiki

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Superprotect user right, Coming to a wiki near you

2014-08-17 Thread Comet styles
yes but mediawiki is a software, not an add-on or as the kids say these days, an App which is what Media Viewer is. Enforcing something with more than a 100 bugs (and counting) is indeed not a very super idea..Fix the bugs or atleast half of them and maybe then try enforcing them (as WMF ignores

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Superprotect user right, Coming to a wiki near you

2014-08-17 Thread Richard Farmbrough
And that is a common community complaint, games communities, social communities, and content communities. They all say fix the bugs before working on new stuff. Developers prefer working on new stuff, managers prefer working on new stuff. Where's the kudos from making things bug-free? But that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Superprotect user right, Coming to a wiki near you

2014-08-17 Thread Pete Forsyth
I think it is also a problem to look at this in terms of bugs. I don't think you can retrofit good design into something that has a variety of substantial problems, by merely squashing bugs. You might say that is the wiki way, but it is widely known that some tasks are better suited than others to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Superprotect user right, Coming to a wiki near you

2014-08-17 Thread Risker
Well, hold on here. On 17 August 2014 19:55, Pete Forsyth petefors...@gmail.com wrote: I think it is also a problem to look at this in terms of bugs. I don't think you can retrofit good design into something that has a variety of substantial problems, by merely squashing bugs. You might say

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Superprotect user right, Coming to a wiki near you

2014-08-17 Thread Pete Forsyth
On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 5:12 PM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: Well, hold on here. On 17 August 2014 19:55, Pete Forsyth petefors...@gmail.com wrote: I think it is also a problem to look at this in terms of bugs. I don't think you can retrofit good design into something that has a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Superprotect user right, Coming to a wiki near you

2014-08-17 Thread Risker
On 17 August 2014 20:25, Pete Forsyth petefors...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 5:12 PM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: Well, hold on here. On 17 August 2014 19:55, Pete Forsyth petefors...@gmail.com wrote: I think it is also a problem to look at this in terms of

[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] The Signpost -- Volume 10, Issue 31 -- 13 August 2014

2014-08-17 Thread Wikipedia Signpost
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[Wikimedia-l] Flogging dead horses (was Re: Superprotect user right, Coming to a wiki near you)

2014-08-17 Thread Wiki Billinghurst
Are we there yet? This subject has been so done to death, that the corpse of the dead horse that has been flogged is going to rise as a zombie and eat out your brains. There is next to no original thought coming through just verbiage, and it is time that people subjecting the whole list to the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Flogging dead horses (was Re: Superprotect user right, Coming to a wiki near you)

2014-08-17 Thread geni
On 18 August 2014 04:13, Wiki Billinghurst billinghurstw...@gmail.com wrote: Are we there yet? This subject has been so done to death, that the corpse of the dead horse that has been flogged is going to rise as a zombie and eat out your brains. There is next to no original thought coming

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Flogging dead horses (was Re: Superprotect user right, Coming to a wiki near you)

2014-08-17 Thread
What is the benefit of creating yet another thread on this? Fae On 18 August 2014 04:13, Wiki Billinghurst billinghurstw...@gmail.com wrote: Are we there yet? This subject has been so done to death, that the corpse of the dead horse that has been flogged is going to rise as a zombie and eat