Re: [Wikimedia-l] YouTube shooting and risk assessment

2018-04-05 Thread Gnangarra
en:wp has a very good concept https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Don%27t_stuff_beans_up_your_nose > > ​" In our zeal to head off others' unwise action, we may put forth ideas > they have not entertained before. It may be wise not to caution against > such possibilities >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] YouTube shooting and risk assessment

2018-04-05 Thread Philippe Beaudette
I can not speak to current practice at the WMF, but I can speak to practice when I was there (ancient history, long ago, I know) when I say that this is something that was carefully considered and there were appropriate experts consulted at the time. Knowing the team there like i do, I'm

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcing the Wikimedia Technical Conference

2018-04-05 Thread Pine W
Hi Victoria, Thank you very much for the explanations. I am glad to hear that the net effect of these changes will be that travel costs remain flat. Does that include lodging and per diem costs? I would suggest collaborating with the WikiConference North America organizers to try to arrange for

Re: [Wikimedia-l] YouTube shooting and risk assessment

2018-04-05 Thread Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l
Safety of attendees has for a long time been a criteria ... agree, but the risk assesement we are discussing here is not about safety, but security. I am sure we might not use them all properly, I am also not a native English speaker, but they are not the same concept, right? Now, there were

Re: [Wikimedia-l] YouTube shooting and risk assessment

2018-04-05 Thread Gnangarra
Safety of attendees has for a long time been a criteria that needs to be addressed when bidding for any WMF event, the people bidding are the better placed to assess the reality of the local situation. Open bidding processes enable others to also critically look at the options, ultimately we are

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Seeking your feedback on future Wikimedia Foundation metrics and activities meetings

2018-04-05 Thread Gregory Varnum
Greetings, A reminder that we are accepting your suggestions on topics and highlights for future Wikimedia Foundation metrics and activities meetings! You are invited to share your ideas on presentations we should seek out or a presentation you would like to make available. You can also share

Re: [Wikimedia-l] YouTube shooting and risk assessment

2018-04-05 Thread Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l
That's why people offwiki say they don't discuss this thing on meta or here, because you always have an "answer" like this... this sarcasm. in it's way, an example of an unhealthy community.   Look at what I wrote: "Even if it is not nice to think about it, and of course you try to do it

Re: [Wikimedia-l] YouTube shooting and risk assessment

2018-04-05 Thread Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l
I remember we discussed 2 or 3 years about this scenario with some wikimedians off wiki. I strongly support to discuss at least once openly about that. In a way that it's rational, avoiding to create unnecessary panic... of course. Despite the claimed neutrality of the communities, reality

Re: [Wikimedia-l] YouTube shooting and risk assessment

2018-04-05 Thread Vi to
I read/receive related craps on a daily basis but it's hard to tell an idiot from a psychopath, so it may become a risk for WMF offices. Vito 2018-04-05 17:33 GMT+02:00 Andy Mabbett : > I'm

[Wikimedia-l] YouTube shooting and risk assessment

2018-04-05 Thread Andy Mabbett
I'm sure most of you will be aware of the unfortunate events at YouTube's HQ a couple fo days ago: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YouTube_headquarters_shooting Without giving away anything that might reveal vulnerabilities, does the WMF have contingency plans for such an incident? What about

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Amazon Echo' use of Wikipedia; CC license compliance?

2018-04-05 Thread Anthony Cole
I see this from Brian Heater at Tech Crunch on 25 March: "In a conversation earlier this week, Wikimedia’s Chief Revenue Office, Lisa Gruwell told TechCrunch that this sort of usage doesn’t constitute any sort of formal relationship. Most companies more or less hook into an API to utilize that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Amazon Echo' use of Wikipedia; CC license compliance?

2018-04-05 Thread WereSpielChequers
Yes of course the WMF can contact those who are detected reusing our content without fully complying with licenses and encourage them to comply. If a case were to go to court it would need to have one or more contributors who were willing to cooperate with WMF legal in the case. But I doubt there

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Amazon Echo' use of Wikipedia; CC license compliance?

2018-04-05 Thread Anthony Cole
We're not at that point yet. I would like to know whether an informal conversation between WMF and Amazon on this topic has begun, though. Anthony Cole On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 3:04 PM, Kunal Mehta wrote: > Hi, > > On 04/04/2018 08:36 PM, Anthony Cole wrote: > > I'm

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Amazon Echo' use of Wikipedia; CC license compliance?

2018-04-05 Thread Kunal Mehta
Hi, On 04/04/2018 08:36 PM, Anthony Cole wrote: > I'm curious also. I release my articles under "attribution, share alike" > and rely on WMF to preserve those rights. Why are you relying on the WMF? Wikipedia contributors (like yourself) are the ones who own copyright to the articles - the WMF