Hi GerardM, Indeed!
As I mentioned in my earlier message, the process will be multilingual. We want to ensure that as many people as possible from across the movement have the opportunity to participate, so we are working hard to make that happen. When it comes to naming in particular, we need to understand the localization opportunities and challenges of the different proposals in order to arrive at a system that works globally. We are having both the survey and the proposals translated into Arabic, Chinese, French, German, Russian and Spanish. All materials will also be made available on Meta-Wiki so that volunteers can translate to other languages. Our team will be analyzing survey responses and discussion themes in all languages. We look forward to talking names with all parts of the movement. Best, Zack On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 8:11 AM Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijs...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hoi, > How will you cope in other languages, other scripts. Is engaging all over > the world NOT in English a consideration> > Thanks, > GerardM > > On Thu, 4 Jun 2020 at 05:34, Zack McCune <zmcc...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > > > Hi Tito - > > > > Your observation is fair and welcome. The project team will update the > > timeline on Meta-Wiki to reflect the latest rescheduling and our > relaunched > > consultations. > > > > The priority is on completing the collaborative design activities of the > > project (naming, design, and style guides) in time for the birthday in > > January. The process of adoption will follow the completion of this work, > > so it too will be adjusted in the timeline. > > > > The project team is working to keep this timeline as accurate as we can > > amidst much global uncertainty, so I want to be the first to acknowledge > > that timing will likely remain at the monthly estimate level and may > > further change. > > > > Thanks, > > > > - Zack > > > > On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 7:59 PM Tito Dutta <trulyt...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > With kind permission, I would like to further explain my question (in > > case > > > it was unclear, and kindly assume good faith): > > > The resolution (linked above and at [1]) states that "the Board affirms > > its > > > support for the brand project and its strategic importance for the > > > movement, mission, and 2030 strategy, and the Board directs the > > Foundation > > > to complete this work by Wikipedia's 20th birthday." > > > – what is "this work" that is to be completed by January 2021? > > > I believe it includes implementation (first phase) as well? On > Meta-Wiki > > > the /Timeline page mentions[2] "January 2021" as "Organizational > > > implementation: adoption by the Foundation with opt-in system for > > > affiliates. > > > I see an almost clear action point here that by January 2021 the opt-in > > > naming comes into picture for the communities, where the brand value of > > > Wikipedia will be experimented with a few communities/projects with > > direct > > > attention. > > > Wait, aren't we yet to start the review process? > > > Kindly note, other than the 3 or so models, I have noticed that there > was > > > always another (robust) voice, and that's a "no". > > > Sincerely, > > > User:Titodutta > > > > > > > > > [1] > > > > > > > > > https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Resolution:Brand_Project_Support_(May_2020) > > > [2] > > > > > > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Communications/Wikimedia_brands/2030_movement_brand_project/Timeline&oldid=20140879#Post-project:_Adopt_and_advance_brand_(pending_approval_from_the_Board_of_Trustees_and_executive_leadership) > > > > > > Thanks > > > Tito Dutta > > > Note: If I don't reply to your email in 2 days, please feel free to > > remind > > > me over email or phone call. > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 4 Jun 2020 at 04:34, Tito Dutta <trulyt...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > From the resolution page ( > > > > > > > > > > https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Resolution:Brand_Project_Support_(May_2020) > > > > : > > > > "... and the Board directs the Foundation to complete this work by > > > > Wikipedia's 20th birthday." > > > > — That is 15 January 2021. Interesting. > > > > It seems the option is now to select one of three (re)naming options. > > > > Actually, I was going to suggest a "movement-wide review" may need > more > > > > than 14 days of time.... for affiliates, and communities etc. . > > > > Thanks > > > > User:Titodutta > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 4 Jun 2020 at 00:47, Zack McCune <zmcc...@wikimedia.org> > > wrote: > > > > > > > >> Hi everyone, > > > >> > > > >> As promised, we are back with an update and a new timeline to > discuss > > > >> names > > > >> as a movement. We are excited to take on naming together beginning > 16 > > > >> June. > > > >> Here is an overview of what happened and what to expect: > > > >> > > > >> After additional weeks of legal review and a conversation with the > > Board > > > >> of > > > >> Trustees at their 22 May meeting, we have alignment to present three > > > >> naming > > > >> convention proposals for movement-wide review on 16 June. > > > >> > > > >> The Board of Trustees affirmed support for the project [1] and > vetted > > > >> various naming options. They explored legal and financial > implications > > > of > > > >> different approaches, and evaluated them based on their potential to > > act > > > >> as > > > >> compelling, unifying tools to elevate the work we are currently > doing > > > and > > > >> ensure the future of our movement. Based on these assessments, the > > > >> movement-wide review will revolve around two naming convention > > proposals > > > >> centered on Wikipedia, one that is a Wiki/Wikipedia hybrid, and an > > open > > > >> response area where respondents can share their own naming > proposals. > > > We > > > >> feel confident that the vetting process has led to solid proposals, > > > while > > > >> we also want to ensure we are open to your ideas and are committed > to > > > >> reviewing suggestions made in the open response area. > > > >> > > > >> While these weeks of work have reconfirmed that naming structures > > > centered > > > >> entirely on “Wiki” would not be legally feasible or financially > > > >> responsible, we were able to uncover ways in which “Wiki” can be > used > > as > > > >> part of movement naming. We know there will be questions around > this, > > > and > > > >> look forward to discussing more in detail during the upcoming live > > > >> presentation. > > > >> > > > >> ***Join us for the live presentation [2] of the three Naming > > Convention > > > >> Proposals on 16 June at 15:00 UTC.*** > > > >> > > > >> We will present the various options that were considered, the risks > > and > > > >> rewards of each, and how the process arrived at the three options > for > > > >> review. > > > >> > > > >> As previously planned, the movement-wide review to follow will be > > > >> multilingual and will rely on surveys for individual contributors, > > > >> affiliates, and Foundation depts, as well as open discussion on > > > Meta-Wiki, > > > >> from 16 June to 30 June. The two weeks of feedback will help to > > remove, > > > >> refine and recombine elements from the proposals into a single, > > > >> synthesized > > > >> proposal. > > > >> > > > >> We look forward to talking names with you soon. > > > >> > > > >> Best, > > > >> > > > >> - Zack & the Brand Project Team > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> [1] > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Resolution:Brand_Project_Support_(May_2020) > > > >> [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3zlBGHHHiY > > > >> > > > >> On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 12:12 PM Heather Walls <hwa...@wikimedia.org > > > > > >> wrote: > > > >> > > > >> > Hi all, > > > >> > > > > >> > I wanted to quickly follow up and thank you for being patient. > > > >> > > > > >> > Zack, Essie, Samir, Elena, and the entire project team was eager, > > > >> working > > > >> > very very hard, and prepared to share the planned Naming > Convention > > > >> > Proposals this week. Our colleagues across the Foundation, > > > particularly > > > >> in > > > >> > Legal, were also tightly involved in this project that is both > > > important > > > >> > and close to our hearts. Rescheduling feels a bit disappointing to > > us > > > >> all, > > > >> > but we are excited at the chance for us to add more to the future > > > >> review, > > > >> > and to set up a stronger discussion across our Movement about the > > > limits > > > >> > and possibilities of new naming systems. > > > >> > > > > >> > Thanks, > > > >> > Heather > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 11:34 AM Zack McCune < > zmcc...@wikimedia.org> > > > >> wrote: > > > >> > > > > >> > > Hi everyone- > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Today, we are rescheduling the Naming Convention Proposal > > community > > > >> > review > > > >> > > planned for May 7 - 21, including tomorrow's live presentation. > > This > > > >> > > critical part of the Movement Brand Project is designed to share > > and > > > >> > > review compelling, > > > >> > > unifying naming proposals that would sustain our free knowledge > > > >> mission > > > >> > far > > > >> > > into the future. [1] > > > >> > > > > > >> > > We are incredibly excited to talk NAMES with our communities. We > > > know > > > >> how > > > >> > > important naming is to the Movement, and together we’ve made > > > >> considerable > > > >> > > progress on options that would allow us to invite and inspire > > people > > > >> to > > > >> > > join us. People join the movements that move them, and we want > our > > > >> Naming > > > >> > > Convention Proposals to be both functional and appealing. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > We are particularly interested in “Wiki” as a potential > direction, > > > >> often > > > >> > > suggested by the community and widely used in our Movement. > > However, > > > >> > there > > > >> > > are significant practical issues with "Wiki" due to the relevant > > > >> > trademark > > > >> > > landscape. We do not want to present to you an option that we > > could > > > >> not > > > >> > > make work. The fastest thing to do would be to remove it from > the > > > >> > > possibilities, but we hear your preferences and we don’t want to > > do > > > >> that. > > > >> > > Instead, we need more time to expand the research and risk > > > evaluation > > > >> > with > > > >> > > our Legal team and the Board to fully understand what > > opportunities > > > we > > > >> > > have. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > We recognize that changing timing may appear to avoid a > necessary > > > and > > > >> > > promised discussion. Nothing could be further from our > intentions. > > > We > > > >> > want > > > >> > > to meet our commitment to you to present the best options based > on > > > the > > > >> > > conversations we’ve had so far, instead of a more limited set of > > > >> options > > > >> > > that we had to narrow in order to meet our deadline. We want to > > have > > > >> more > > > >> > > exploration and clarity on the risks, costs, and rewards of > naming > > > >> > changes > > > >> > > to share with you at this critical phase. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Collaborating with our Legal team and the Board, we will work to > > > have > > > >> > more > > > >> > > details to share with you soon. The Project Team will meet with > > the > > > >> Board > > > >> > > of Trustees during their May 22nd summit, and will follow up as > > soon > > > >> as > > > >> > we > > > >> > > can after. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Yours in branding, > > > >> > > > > > >> > > - Zack, Essie, Elena, Samir, Rupika and the entire Brand Project > > > team > > > >> > > [1] > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communications/Wikimedia_brands/2030_movement_brand_project > > > >> > > > > > >> > > -- > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Zack McCune (he/him) > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Director of Brand > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Wikimedia Foundation <https://wikimediafoundation.org/> > > > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > > >> > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > >> > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > > > >> > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > > >> > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > >> > > Unsubscribe: > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > > > >> , > > > >> > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org > > > ?subject=unsubscribe> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > -- > > > >> > > > > >> > Heather Walls > > > >> > > > > >> > Wikimedia Foundation <https://wikimediafoundation.org/> > > > >> > _______________________________________________ > > > >> > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > >> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > > > >> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > > >> > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > >> > Unsubscribe: > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > > > , > > > >> > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org > > ?subject=unsubscribe> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> -- > > > >> > > > >> Zack McCune (he/him) > > > >> > > > >> Director of Brand > > > >> > > > >> Wikimedia Foundation <https://wikimediafoundation.org/> > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > >> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > > > >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > > >> New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > >> Unsubscribe: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > > , > > > >> <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org > ?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Zack McCune (he/him) > > > > Director of Brand > > > > Wikimedia Foundation <https://wikimediafoundation.org/> > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> -- Zack McCune (he/him) Director of Brand Wikimedia Foundation <https://wikimediafoundation.org/> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
