[Wikimedia-l] Re: [Marketing Mail] Re: Small gratitude to our fellow wikimedians

2021-11-09 Thread Risker
One thing to keep in mind is that there are a couple of million Wikimedia accounts. Just by the law of averages, it's likely that someone who has a Wikimedia account dies every day. Most of the time, we will never know about it. I'd guess that a good percentage of the accounts that have been

[Wikimedia-l] Re: [Marketing Mail] Re: Small gratitude to our fellow wikimedians

2021-11-09 Thread Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l
That would enter the domain of naming guidelines and we don't have those in general. Again, I have been pointing out since the first years of SUL. For example a string can look terrible in one language but not another, you have a normal user experience in one Wikipedia, and than you realize

[Wikimedia-l] Re: [Marketing Mail] Re: Small gratitude to our fellow wikimedians

2021-11-09 Thread Željko Blaće
Maybe a good approach would be also to have a global rename of the user account to add something like _(.) so it is systematic and 'obvious' across all Wikimedia projects - no? ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines

[Wikimedia-l] Re: [Marketing Mail] Re: Small gratitude to our fellow wikimedians

2021-11-09 Thread Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meta:Deceased_editors I have created a stub. It will grow. it is just time, if we don't start to focus on one page, we will have this discussion again and again. Now we can use that talk page or show the page as target for future discussion. You can start for

[Wikimedia-l] Re: [Marketing Mail] Re: Small gratitude to our fellow wikimedians

2021-11-09 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
Actually, many projects maintain the list of deceased users. English Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deceased_Wikipedians Commons: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deceased_contributors Meta is up the thread. We should also realize that a significant part of our

[Wikimedia-l] Re: [Marketing Mail] Re: Small gratitude to our fellow wikimedians

2021-11-09 Thread Peter Southwood
Seems a reasonable idea. Cheers, Peter From: Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org] Sent: 09 November 2021 14:16 To: 'Wikimedia Mailing List' Cc: Alessandro Marchetti Subject: [Marketing Mail] [Wikimedia-l] Re: Small gratitude to our fellow wikimedians

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Small gratitude to our fellow wikimedians

2021-11-09 Thread Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l
If you want to do something outside, you have to do something properly here first. You are not going to escape this step, IMHO. A family might be also surprised if they discover that somebody had recognition while their relative did not get it the same way. This would convince them of the

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Small gratitude to our fellow wikimedians

2021-11-09 Thread Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l
Yes, a user status/right “deceased" is IMHO important. It was also the reason why I expected a SUL policy to be created soon or later. I tried two or three time to raise the issue since 2016. Now some projects block accounts, but it's not a standard process. It has to be fixed soon or later.

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Small gratitude to our fellow wikimedians

2021-11-09 Thread Camelia Boban
On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 6:25 PM Gnangarra wrote: In some ways we do https://wikimania.wikimedia.org/wiki/2021:In_Memoriam Is not the same. In memoriam wiki pages are indelible memories for us as wikimedians (thank you Risker/Anne for the response), but could mean less for the families which are

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Small gratitude to our fellow wikimedians

2021-11-09 Thread Geert Van Pamel
I do find this an excellent proposal. Wouldn’t it be good to also implement a user status/right “deceased” to identify those accounts? This information could be shown to their user rights page e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:UserRights/Geertivp? One could get a list of