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On Tue, Oct 3, 2023 at 6:06 AM Andreas Kolbe <jayen...@gmail.com> wrote: > Let's put it a different way then: > > Is anyone at the WMF doing anything in support of the two jailed Saudi > Wikimedians, be it liaising with international or regional human rights > organisations, the US State Department, briefing journalists so the wider > public is aware of the situation, or anything else to make sure Osama and > Ziyad aren't forgotten about as they start (by my calculation) their fourth > year in jail? > > I am asking because the press reports published at the start of this year > do not seem to have led to any significant coverage of the two Wikimedians' > plight on the websites of major human rights organisations. (If I have > missed any, please let me know.) > > For example, I found nothing at all on the website of Reporters without > Borders. Similarly, the most recent Amnesty International report on the > "crackdown on online expression" in Saudi Arabia includes several mentions > of Twitter users but none of Wikipedians: > > > https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2023/02/saudi-arabia-alarming-crackdown-on-online-expression/ > > Amnesty's report specifically mentions that a Twitter user was sentenced > for supporting women's rights activist Loujain al-Hathloul but fails to > mention that one of the jailed Wikimedians uploaded Loujain al-Hathloul's > Commons picture, which is used in her Wikipedia articles. > > I didn't find anything about Osama and Ziyad or, more generally, > Wikimedians in Saudi Arabia on the website of the EFF. > > There is a mention of Osama and Ziyad and the fact that they were > Wikipedians on the PEN website: > > https://pen.org/report/freedom-to-write-index-2022/ > > The U.S. State Department's 2022 country report on Saudi Arabia, published > in March 2023, includes a mention of Osama's 32-year prison sentence, but > doesn't make clear that he was jailed for being a Wikipedian, and Ziyad is > not mentioned: > > > https://www.state.gov/reports/2022-country-reports-on-human-rights-practices/saudi-arabia/ > > Will this be remedied in the U.S. State Department's 2023 country report? > I think each country report covers the period up to October of the > preceding year, so this month will be the last chance to make sure the 2023 > report published next spring will include information on Osama and Ziyad's > prison sentences and their Wikipedia activity. > > Andreas > > > > On Mon, Sep 25, 2023 at 11:09 PM The Cunctator <cuncta...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Frankly, that's implausible. >> >> On Mon, Sep 25, 2023, 3:37 PM DerHexer via Wikimedia-l < >> wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> wrote: >> >>> I do think that posting any kind of response to these questions *on a >>> public mailing list* would do more harm than good. Thank you. >>> >>> Best, >>> DerHexer >>> *Wikimedia Steward* >>> >>> Am Montag, 25. September 2023 um 21:20:21 MESZ hat Andreas Kolbe < >>> jayen...@gmail.com> Folgendes geschrieben: >>> >>> >>> Dear all, >>> >>> As there was a recent press mention of Osama and Ziyad[1] (see "In the >>> Media" in the current Signpost issue) – does the WMF's Human Rights Team >>> (cc'ed) have any update on their situation? >>> >>> Has anyone else heard any news? If I recall correctly, Osama had married >>> not long before being jailed in 2020 – has anyone been in touch with his >>> wife? >>> >>> Is there anything the community can do? >>> >>> Andreas >>> >>> [1] >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_imprisoned_for_editing_Wikipedia >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines >>> at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and >>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l >>> Public archives at >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/CSBF3UGYR7BDU5XPYZFYQAABPXXY5PDG/ >>> To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines >>> at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and >>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l >>> Public archives at >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/XMEMSGXX7XH3R7MSYZFGKR6PMRCWDDKB/ >>> To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines >> at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l >> Public archives at >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/YKDNQDXMBNSD7OX6YKLN4RLJAYWC5WGO/ >> To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org > >
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