Re: [Wikimedia-l] Access by Wikimedia volunteers to WMF records about them

2014-09-10 Thread
I had a reply yesterday from WMF legal. The answer is no. This is based on the WMF believing that they have no policies which obligate them to explain what records they keep on a volunteer or provide copies of records, and that there are no data protection laws that ensure that this information

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Access by Wikimedia volunteers to WMF records about them

2014-09-10 Thread Luis Villa
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 12:27 AM, Fæ fae...@gmail.com wrote: Should WMF Legal say they are happy for me to do so, I will be happy to publish their reply in full. Our reply, as I sent it at 7:58 pm Pacific time, Sep. 9: === Hi, Ashley- As you know, the Wikimedia Foundation keeps

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Access by Wikimedia volunteers to WMF records about them

2014-08-24 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
If you don't know of a policy which gives you the right to ask something, why ask that something? Instead, ask something you know you have the right to ask; for instance, EU citizens have the right, by privacy law, to ask what PII an entity has about them. Nemo

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Access by Wikimedia volunteers to WMF records about them

2014-08-24 Thread Richard Farmbrough
But if the entity refuses to answer, one has limited recourse, especially if that entity is American, or trans-Atlantic. On 24 August 2014 16:50, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote: If you don't know of a policy which gives you the right to ask something, why ask that something?

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Access by Wikimedia volunteers to WMF records about them

2014-08-24 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
I'd worry about that only after a rejection. :-) However, while I don't know about UK, in Italy I see several degrees of administrative recourse at the data protection authority. Here's a list: http://ec.europa.eu/justice/data-protection/bodies/authorities/eu/index_en.htm Nemo

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Access by Wikimedia volunteers to WMF records about them

2014-08-23 Thread Ting Chen
Hello Fae, as far as I know there is no systematic data collection about volunteers by the WMF, anyway, there is non that is known by the board at my time, or ever mentioned on the board. In the first year when I joined the board I mentioned in a mail that it would be desirable for the

[Wikimedia-l] Access by Wikimedia volunteers to WMF records about them

2014-08-22 Thread
I wrote the email below to Lila and the WMF Legal department asking for access to records (and reports) they hold on me, but I'm sad to say that after 3 weeks waiting, I have yet to receive an acknowledgement. As a Wikimania London volunteer I had a moment to speak with Jan-Bart, and some of my

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Access by Wikimedia volunteers to WMF records about them

2014-08-22 Thread Lodewijk
Hi Fae, in the Netherlands it is quite common for this kind of reqeusts to take several weeks (the government usually allows itself up to six weeks to even acknowledge receipt). Given the fact that the legal department was over their heads busy in the past weeks, I am not very surprised it is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Access by Wikimedia volunteers to WMF records about them

2014-08-22 Thread Jan-Bart de Vreede
Hi Fae/Everyone Just to be clear, although the text below is factually correct it implies that the two of us talked about your request at Wikimania, which we did not. We talked for a total of around 60 seconds, most of which was spent on me explaining that I was looking for someon in a hurry,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Access by Wikimedia volunteers to WMF records about them

2014-08-22 Thread
To avoid tangents, here is my email trimmed to the 2 key points with no background: Can someone recommend if there is a WMF policy on transparency that applies? Does the law in the USA give rights of access to records or reports the WMF may keep on volunteers? Fae