Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open letter on open letters (Was: Open letter from Wikimedia Argentina regarding URAA)

2014-02-28 Thread Dennis Pierri
The servers are still in the US, has anybody proposed a global effort? Will Wikimedia move the servers to EU in case this is accepted? On 28/02/2014, at 03:19, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote: This is being done at least for EU, see consultation for which there is time till

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open letter on open letters (Was: Open letter from Wikimedia Argentina regarding URAA)

2014-02-28 Thread geni
On 28 February 2014 06:41, Dennis Pierri dennis6...@gmail.com wrote: It would be nice if all of the chapters send to their governments a petition to allow a global standardized use of media just for wikimedia projects, it is a big problem that every country has different laws on copyright and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open letter on open letters (Was: Open letter from Wikimedia Argentina regarding URAA)

2014-02-28 Thread geni
On 28 February 2014 21:49, Dennis Pierri dennis6...@gmail.com wrote: The servers are still in the US, has anybody proposed a global effort? Will Wikimedia move the servers to EU in case this is accepted? No. There is quite a bit of stuff on Wikimedia severs that is in breach of criminal law

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open letter on open letters (Was: Open letter from Wikimedia Argentina regarding URAA)

2014-02-28 Thread Dennis Pierri
Thanks for your reply :) On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 5:37 PM, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote: On 28 February 2014 21:49, Dennis Pierri dennis6...@gmail.com wrote: The servers are still in the US, has anybody proposed a global effort? Will Wikimedia move the servers to EU in case this is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open letter on open letters (Was: Open letter from Wikimedia Argentina regarding URAA)

2014-02-27 Thread Osmar Valdebenito
Wikimedia Argentina is formed by a group of volunteers from the Wikimedia movement. That includes several long-time contributors to Commons that have discussed with us in the past months the situation about URAA. This open letter is not something written by a group of strangers or people that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open letter on open letters (Was: Open letter from Wikimedia Argentina regarding URAA)

2014-02-27 Thread Dennis Pierri
It would be nice if all of the chapters send to their governments a petition to allow a global standardized use of media just for wikimedia projects, it is a big problem that every country has different laws on copyright and public domain media, and that wikimedia has to comply with U.S law

[Wikimedia-l] Open letter on open letters (Was: Open letter from Wikimedia Argentina regarding URAA)

2014-02-26 Thread Pierre-Selim
I'm sorry but I find it pretty inappropriate that a chapter published such strong words about volunteers of a Wikimedia Project *certain legal fetishism whose reason gets lost in processes and misses the outcome.* I'm speaking on my behalf, however as a former board member of a Wikimedia Chapter

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open letter on open letters (Was: Open letter from Wikimedia Argentina regarding URAA)

2014-02-26 Thread Cristian Consonni
2014-02-26 13:26 GMT+01:00 Pierre-Selim pierre-se...@huard.info: As a Wikimedia Commons volunteer I'm disappointed by the process followed by some chapters, i.e. which have chosen to bypass the community and send a letter directly to the board of trustees of the Wikimedia Foundation. However,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open letter on open letters (Was: Open letter from Wikimedia Argentina regarding URAA)

2014-02-26 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Maybe it's a cultural issue, does e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_letter have a geopolitically limited point of view? Open letters are a common tool of *discussion* with the public (= community in our case) in the corners of the world that I know best. Nemo

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open letter on open letters (Was: Open letter from Wikimedia Argentina regarding URAA)

2014-02-26 Thread
On 26 February 2014 13:51, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe it's a cultural issue, does e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_letter have a geopolitically limited point of view? Open letters are a common tool of *discussion* with the public (= community in our case) in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open letter on open letters (Was: Open letter from Wikimedia Argentina regarding URAA)

2014-02-26 Thread Carlos M. Colina
) To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open letter on open letters (Was: Open letter from Wikimedia Argentina regarding URAA) On 26 February 2014 13:51, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe it's a cultural issue, does e.g. https

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open letter on open letters (Was: Open letter from Wikimedia Argentina regarding URAA)

2014-02-26 Thread David Gerard
On 26 February 2014 16:46, Fæ fae...@gmail.com wrote: If anyone wants to create meaningful and lasting change to Commons, then please create a Request for Comment on Commons[1] rather than making a fuss and criticising Commons (volunteer) administrators in non-Commons discussion channels,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open letter on open letters (Was: Open letter from Wikimedia Argentina regarding URAA)

2014-02-26 Thread
On 26 February 2014 17:07, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 26 February 2014 16:46, Fæ fae...@gmail.com wrote: If anyone wants to create meaningful and lasting change to Commons, then please create a Request for Comment on Commons[1] rather than making a fuss and criticising Commons

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open letter on open letters (Was: Open letter from Wikimedia Argentina regarding URAA)

2014-02-26 Thread Yann Forget
Hi, 2014-02-26 22:56 GMT+05:30 Fæ fae...@gmail.com: On 26 February 2014 17:07, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 26 February 2014 16:46, Fæ fae...@gmail.com wrote: If anyone wants to create meaningful and lasting change to Commons, then please create a Request for Comment on

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open letter on open letters (Was: Open letter from Wikimedia Argentina regarding URAA)

2014-02-26 Thread
On 26 February 2014 17:55, Yann Forget yan...@gmail.com wrote: ... On this, I agree (at least partially) with David. If only some Commons admins were not pursuing a political campaign to delete URAA-affected files under false pretences, everything would be much better. If you have the evidence

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open letter on open letters (Was: Open letter from Wikimedia Argentina regarding URAA)

2014-02-26 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Fæ, 26/02/2014 17:46: For Chapters, I suggest you check who among your active volunteers are most active on Commons[2] and ask them to help engage or create discussion about policy and guideline changes. If you cannot find anyone close to your chapter that is active and engaged on Commons,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open letter on open letters (Was: Open letter from Wikimedia Argentina regarding URAA)

2014-02-26 Thread Yann Forget
2014-02-26 23:39 GMT+05:30 Fæ fae...@gmail.com: On 26 February 2014 17:55, Yann Forget yan...@gmail.com wrote: ... On this, I agree (at least partially) with David. If only some Commons admins were not pursuing a political campaign to delete URAA-affected files under false pretences,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open letter on open letters (Was: Open letter from Wikimedia Argentina regarding URAA)

2014-02-26 Thread Luiz Augusto
I really expect to not being, what in Brazil we call as jogar lenha na fogueira (throw fuel on the fire in a literal translation) but... The question here is something that the Board of Trustees known since 2007 [1], when it raised firstly by Wikisource volunteers: what to do with works still

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open letter on open letters (Was: Open letter from Wikimedia Argentina regarding URAA)

2014-02-26 Thread Avenue
Look, I have no problem with the open letters from WM Venezuela, España or Israel. I might not agree 100% with everything in them, but they are generally on top of the issues, and they focus on the problems they law poses for us and our need for better solutions - all worth bringing to a wider