Re: [Wikimedia-l] Overloaded with CentralNotices (Tilman Bayer)

2013-11-01 Thread Jane Darnell
@Matthew, thanks for that detailed explanation! That is very interesting and includes a lot of information I didn't know. I am not against using the central notice for this purpose, but I just don't think it has much effect in the current implementation. In this specific case, leading the user

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Overloaded with CentralNotices (Tilman Bayer)

2013-10-31 Thread Jane Darnell
@Nemo, This is exactly what I was hoping to get from the Chapters Association - a way to exchange ideas with other chapters about how to inform more local Wikipedia editors about WMNL, and secondly, ask them to join the chapter. The group of people who read the Dutch Village pump is quite small

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Overloaded with CentralNotices (Tilman Bayer)

2013-10-31 Thread Tilman Bayer
Hi Jane, On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 12:42 AM, Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com wrote: @Sue, I understand the idea behind doing this and applaud the idea - it would be so much easier to make strategy decisions in WMNL if we had more input from more involved people in the Dutch Wikipedia community.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Overloaded with CentralNotices (Tilman Bayer)

2013-10-31 Thread Frans Grijzenhout
Hi everyone, this is just to point out that we organized 4 meetings with WMNL members (july - sept) in order to get as much input as possible for our Annual Plan and Budget 2014. We also welcomed ideas and feedback on draft documents in our Newsletter and on the Dutch chapter's wiki. We received

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Overloaded with CentralNotices (Tilman Bayer)

2013-10-31 Thread Matthew Walker
I'm not sure who to reply to in this list to grab the appropriate sections; but some points about fundraising and new CN features that help reduce banner blindness and annoyance. * Fundraising banners from the WMF are presently only shown to anonymous users. The team, as I understand it, doesn't

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Overloaded with CentralNotices (Tilman Bayer)

2013-10-30 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
hi, On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 3:57 AM, Romaine Wiki romaine_w...@yahoo.com wrote: The reason why I wrote is not to blame anyone, but to promote thinking of other ways to communicate to the local communities. I'm skeptical, if a general banner is the best idea, too. Since quite likely only

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Overloaded with CentralNotices (Tilman Bayer)

2013-10-30 Thread Jane Darnell
Dj pundit, I second your skepticism. Especially since most Dutch Wikipedians have no idea what WMNL is, according to a survey. It only follows that they would therefore be completely buffaloed by a sitenotice inviting them to comment on a grant for it. Romaine is doing highly valuable work

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Overloaded with CentralNotices (Tilman Bayer)

2013-10-30 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Jane Darnell, 30/10/2013 09:30: I second your skepticism. Especially since most Dutch Wikipedians have no idea what WMNL is, according to a survey. Good point. Maybe all those who care about a chapter and its spending are already members of the chapter so that they can participate in the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Overloaded with CentralNotices (Tilman Bayer)

2013-10-30 Thread Sue Gardner
Just quickly while I walk down the street: I don't think the goal is necessarily to get input from chapters members -- as you say, the best avenue for those people to give input on chapter plans is probably simply to be involved in the chapter's internal planning processes. I think the purpose of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Overloaded with CentralNotices (Tilman Bayer)

2013-10-29 Thread Romaine Wiki
Hi Tilman, Unfortunately it seems that many users experience the FDC as most away from their bed and saw the notice in English what triggered the users to write their annoyance down. The current load of feedback is indeed on that page, and I tried to reply as damage control to limit the number