[Wikimedia-l] Re: Media coverage in Germany: Enterprise / Advocacy

2022-01-31 Thread Samuel Klein
Thanks, Christian and Liam -- this looks very nicely handled. Liam - wow, now that ABC link is really a blast from the past :) S On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 11:54 AM Liam Wyatt wrote: > Dear Željko, > > I wish to make a reply to some of the comments you raise - primarily to > emphasise to the rest

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Media coverage in Germany: Enterprise / Advocacy

2022-01-31 Thread Liam Wyatt
Dear Željko, I wish to make a reply to some of the comments you raise - primarily to emphasise to the rest of the subscribers on this list that there is already an extensive community discussion about this Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung (FAZ) opinion column on the German Wikipedia 'Kurier' forum,

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Media coverage in Germany: Enterprise / Advocacy

2022-01-30 Thread Željko Blaće
Thank you for engaging with this topic in public and doing the translation and sharing here (adding open-glam list). Aside from being a nice Sunday read I think this is a super useful case study for people working in the cultural sector and advocacy for open. Was this published elsewhere in Englis

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Media coverage in Germany: Enterprise / Advocacy

2022-01-29 Thread Risker
Andreas - First off, contract employees are employees. There were 82 of them. (Part V, line 1a on the Form 990) They do not receive a W-3 form. Only 291 employees received the W-3 form. That brings employee total to 373. Secondly, you fail to compensate for the fact that the 13 "key employees

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Media coverage in Germany: Enterprise / Advocacy

2022-01-29 Thread Amir Sarabadani
Thank you for fixing that mistake but again. If anyone were paid above $187,000 they would show up in the main list and only 12 people are there. And again it doesn't make sense with assuming c-levels and the highest paid employees in WMF being paid a little above "average". Andreas Kolbe schrieb

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Media coverage in Germany: Enterprise / Advocacy

2022-01-29 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Amir, You say, "it was only 12 were paid more than $100,000 (at least according to the form)." Part VII of the Form 990 (page 8) states, in line 2 (under the table of highest earners you mention), "Total number of individuals (including but not limited to those listed above) who received more th

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Media coverage in Germany: Enterprise / Advocacy

2022-01-29 Thread Amir Sarabadani
The $200,000 average salary for each employee is plain wrong. If you look at 2019 Form: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/foundation/8/85/Wikimedia_Foundation_2019_Form_990.pdf In that form, there is a section (Section VII) for the highest paid employees and requires WMF to report any employe

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Media coverage in Germany: Enterprise / Advocacy

2022-01-29 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Dear Alex, Anne Please see the 2019 Form 990, which is the most recent one available: https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/200049703/202101319349300105/full Line 5 on the first page states that the "Total number of individuals employed in calendar year 2019" was 291. Line 15

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Media coverage in Germany: Enterprise / Advocacy

2022-01-29 Thread Risker
I don't think there is any such source. In another thread, Andreas also states that there are over 800 WMF and affiliate employees (which is probably true); however, that would mean that *just salaries* would come to more than the 2021-22 annual budget.[1] (i.e. - 800 employees x $200,000 each =

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Media coverage in Germany: Enterprise / Advocacy

2022-01-29 Thread Alex Monk
Do you have a source for that number? On Sat, 29 Jan 2022 at 20:38, Andreas Kolbe wrote: > > As for nobody at Wikimedia profiting off the free content created by > volunteers, that is relative. WMF salary costs currently average over > $200,000 per employee. In most parts of the world, that woul

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Media coverage in Germany: Enterprise / Advocacy

2022-01-29 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Christian, Thanks for providing the translations. Even if he got some obvious things wrong – one thing David Bernet is right about is that the people earning money from this free content are first and foremost Big Tech, who can then host this material on sites like YouTube and put ads on it, trac