Re: [Wikimedia-l] UK.Gov passes Instagram Act

2013-05-12 Thread Nikolas Becker
Hi everyone! I am sorry for replying to this week-old thread, but I just read it and wanted to take the chance adding a short hint: There is a (relatively new) Wikimedia working group on EU policy [1] with an explicit task force for the orphan works issue:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] UK.Gov passes Instagram Act

2013-05-04 Thread Luis Villa
On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 1:03 AM, Tomasz Ganicz polime...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/5/2 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com: On 2 May 2013 04:06, shi zhao shiz...@gmail.com wrote: see http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/04/29/err_act_landgrab/ As usual, Orlowski is trolling for clicks. Here's the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] UK.Gov passes Instagram Act

2013-05-03 Thread Tim Starling
On 02/05/13 18:07, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: A document describing best practices for diligent search in Wikimedia projects can be interesting, but for what Mathias says there is little use in it as part of this initiative, unless UK government wants to act in EU to find a common ground

[Wikimedia-l] UK.Gov passes Instagram Act

2013-05-03 Thread Andrew Gray
On 2 May 2013 11:25, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: On 2 May 2013 11:24, geni geni...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: However orphan works legislation is a hack designed to allow long copyright terms to keep working without upsetting even more people. Its of no use to us.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] UK.Gov passes Instagram Act

2013-05-02 Thread David Gerard
On 2 May 2013 04:06, shi zhao shiz...@gmail.com wrote: see http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/04/29/err_act_landgrab/ As usual, Orlowski is trolling for clicks. Here's the actual text: http://niaccurshi.blogspot.co.uk/2013/04/orphan-works-enterprise-and-regulatory.html - d.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] UK.Gov passes Instagram Act

2013-05-02 Thread Craig Franklin
If the Register hates it, that usually indicates to me that it is a fantastic idea. On 02/05/2013 1:07 PM, shi zhao shiz...@gmail.com wrote: see http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/04/29/err_act_landgrab/ The Act contains changes to UK copyright law which permit the commercial exploitation of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] UK.Gov passes Instagram Act

2013-05-02 Thread Mathias Schindler
On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 8:41 AM, Craig Franklin cfrank...@halonetwork.net wrote: If the Register hates it, that usually indicates to me that it is a fantastic idea. The main issues with the EU orphan works directive is that projects like Wikipedia are not among the priviledged entities and the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] UK.Gov passes Instagram Act

2013-05-02 Thread Fae
On 2 May 2013 07:54, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote: ... If that's it, the law is completely useless, it just parrots general EU regulations. The big question in Europe is what qualifies as a diligent search: I don't know if as usual UK wants to decide on its own, in any case it

Re: [Wikimedia-l] UK.Gov passes Instagram Act

2013-05-02 Thread geni
On 2 May 2013 07:54, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote: If that's it, the law is completely useless, it just parrots general EU regulations. The big question in Europe is what qualifies as a diligent search: I don't know if as usual UK wants to decide on its own, in any case it

Re: [Wikimedia-l] UK.Gov passes Instagram Act

2013-05-02 Thread geni
On 2 May 2013 04:06, shi zhao shiz...@gmail.com wrote: see http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/04/29/err_act_landgrab/ Dude this is Wikimedia-l. Home to rather a lot of copyright nerds. If there was actually a significant problem with the law don't you think we would have raised the issue back

Re: [Wikimedia-l] UK.Gov passes Instagram Act

2013-05-02 Thread Tomasz Ganicz
2013/5/2 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com: On 2 May 2013 04:06, shi zhao shiz...@gmail.com wrote: see http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/04/29/err_act_landgrab/ As usual, Orlowski is trolling for clicks. Here's the actual text:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] UK.Gov passes Instagram Act

2013-05-02 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Fae, 02/05/2013 09:20: On 2 May 2013 07:54, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: ... If that's it, the law is completely useless, it just parrots general EU regulations. The big question in Europe is what qualifies as a diligent search: I don't know if as usual UK wants to decide on its own, in any case

Re: [Wikimedia-l] UK.Gov passes Instagram Act

2013-05-02 Thread Tomasz Ganicz
2013/5/2 geni geni...@gmail.com: On 2 May 2013 04:06, shi zhao shiz...@gmail.com wrote: see http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/04/29/err_act_landgrab/ Dude this is Wikimedia-l. Home to rather a lot of copyright nerds. If there was actually a significant problem with the law don't you think

Re: [Wikimedia-l] UK.Gov passes Instagram Act

2013-05-02 Thread David Gerard
On 2 May 2013 08:37, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote: On 2 May 2013 07:54, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote: If that's it, the law is completely useless, it just parrots general EU regulations. The big question in Europe is what qualifies as a diligent search: I don't know if as

Re: [Wikimedia-l] UK.Gov passes Instagram Act

2013-05-02 Thread David Gerard
On 2 May 2013 08:40, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote: Seriously I've seen this topic floating around on various photography sites. Any idea who is behind the campaign and why? The same photography groups who think people shouldn't be allowed to release pictures under CC by-sa as it undermines

Re: [Wikimedia-l] UK.Gov passes Instagram Act

2013-05-02 Thread geni
On 2 May 2013 10:54, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 2 May 2013 08:37, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote: On 2 May 2013 07:54, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote: If that's it, the law is completely useless, it just parrots general EU regulations. The big question in Europe

Re: [Wikimedia-l] UK.Gov passes Instagram Act

2013-05-02 Thread David Gerard
On 2 May 2013 11:24, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote: However orphan works legislation is a hack designed to allow long copyright terms to keep working without upsetting even more people. Its of no use to us. I think you're wrong there. But it's an arguable point, not one that goes either way.

[Wikimedia-l] UK.Gov passes Instagram Act

2013-05-01 Thread shi zhao
see http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/04/29/err_act_landgrab/ The Act contains changes to UK copyright law which permit the commercial exploitation of images where information identifying the owner is missing, so-called orphan works, by placing the work into what's known as extended collective