Dear Liam, Correct me if I'm wrong, but your notification two weeks ago, as linked in your post below, did not even include the https://enterprise.wikimedia.com/ URL. All you said was this:
The launch of the project’s standalone website, denoting the service as “open for business”, will take place early next week. (As far as I can tell, nothing actually happened that week – the website and press release only went live yesterday.) If you give notification weeks in advance, don't advise list members of the website's URL, and don't give them a firm date when the site will be up, you are surely bound to reduce the number of people checking the site out. If you and your colleagues want to keep members here up to date on things like this, and welcome them to look at what you've built, couldn't you send a post to this mailing list the day you turn the lights on, complete with the URL, and invite everyone to have a look around? Given that it is the work of the volunteers that is being sold on that site, this would only seem right. Regards, Andreas Yes the website <https://enterprise.wikimedia.com/>, and press release > <https://wikimediafoundation.org/news/2021/10/25/wikimedia-foundation-launches-wikimedia-enterprise-the-new-opt-in-product-for-companies-and-organizations-to-easily-reuse-content-from-wikipedia-and-wikimedia-projects/>, > were "launched" yesterday. > Yes, notification was given on this mailing list > <https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/SLJURHLDJMHY5XM7KOJAP7XKPAEU4K5U/> > two > weeks ago, as well as several others - including wikitech-l, affiliates-l. > That message included various new pieces of documentation (including Board > statement relating to revenue principles, methods of free-access to the > service for community, forthcoming public 'office hours' meetings). > Moreover, it also included notification of this impending launch. > > - Liam > Nowhere in this thread do I see the URL of the enterprise.wikimedia.com website. > On Tue, 26 Oct 2021 at 17:35, Andreas Kolbe <jayen...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> The Wikimedia Enterprise site surely is up: >> https://enterprise.wikimedia.com/pricing/ >> >> Did I miss an announcement here on this mailing list? >> >> At least there was a WMF blog post: >> https://wikimediafoundation.org/news/2021/10/25/wikimedia-foundation-launches-wikimedia-enterprise-the-new-opt-in-product-for-companies-and-organizations-to-easily-reuse-content-from-wikipedia-and-wikimedia-projects/ >> >> Anders: The best thing that could happen to Wikipedia would be to have a >> competitor. Think about it for a moment, for God's sake. >> >> Andreas >> >> On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 3:55 PM Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga < >> galder...@hotmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Dear wikimedians, >>> Some years ago, I visited Uzbekistan. I was shocked and amused to find >>> that the largest paper note was 2.000 soʻm at that time, with a plan to >>> start with the 5.000 paper note soon. The most used one still was the 1.000 >>> soʻm note, that was about 35 US cents in the bank and about 20 US cents in >>> the street markets. So, the first time we changed two 100 USD$ paper notes >>> into soʻm we got around 800 paper notes in bunches of 100. It was quite >>> interesting to note that people in the street went with black plastic bags >>> full of money in order to buy at the market or get a taxi ride. Some days >>> later, I talked to a local taxi driver and he told me that when he bought >>> his car, he needed a small truck to carry all the paper notes to the car >>> selling store. Of course, I took that as a joke. Then another man said that >>> many houses have a room only for storing money, so you can buy a larger >>> house in the future. I don't know if this was a practical joke, but that's >>> how it was. >>> >>> Yesterday we launched Wikimedia Enterprise. This e-mail is not to show >>> my disagreement with the idea itself, but with the outcome. It seems that >>> the purpose of Wikimedia Entrerprise is to have a large money revenue >>> offering volunteer's time and content to the rich who are willing to pay >>> for a better API. Believe it or not, I like to tax the rich. >>> >>> We have millions of dollars in our money room, and, if everything goes >>> as planned with Wikimedia Enterprise, we will soon need to buy a new house >>> to have a larger room to store all those cheques, notes and assets. The >>> room will soon look huge and plenty of money. Still, there's no plan to >>> paint the house, arrange the sofa, solve the water leakage we have in the >>> toilet, mow the lawn or buy a new set of pans so we can cook healthy food >>> there. Soon, the cow will start aging and won't have more milk to sell. But >>> yes, the money room will be huge. We will have more and more and more >>> millions, but we will still... yes... obsolete. >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> >>> Galder >>> >>
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