Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wiki Travel Guide

2012-04-12 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 13:30:45 -0600, James Heilman wrote: @Yaroslov 1) A merger within a WMF project is supported by admins from both WT and WV. WV is going to be meeting on the possibility of merging June 9th in Germany 2) Wikimedia's mission is to provide freely available educational

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Travel Guide Wiki

2012-04-12 Thread Thomas Morton
First, NPOV would probably be a deal-breaker. The travel wiki community (usually working at Wikitravel) have long used Traveller's Point of View. This point of view is not neutral at all, but favours the traveller. Hoteliers, restaurateurs, etc. have different points of view, but for us it's

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Travel Guide Wiki

2012-04-12 Thread Mark Jaroski
On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 11:41, Thomas Morton morton.tho...@googlemail.comwrote: What I think would be important to avoid is too much subjective information from one individual; for example, where I to write about York, UK I would recommend not going to the Jorvik centre (a main attraction)

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Travel Guide Wiki

2012-04-12 Thread Mark Jaroski
We've mainly approached this issue encouraging the different groups of travellers to add relevant content for their areas. We specifically try to mix it all in, because we don't want to section anyone off. There was considerable controversy back in 2005 or so about adding an LBGT section to the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Travel Guide Wiki

2012-04-12 Thread Thomas Morton
What I think would be important to avoid is too much subjective information from one individual; for example, where I to write about York, UK I would recommend not going to the Jorvik centre (a main attraction) because I thought it overpriced and boring. Whilst my viewpoint on this

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Travel Guide Wiki

2012-04-12 Thread Thomas Morton
Just to highlight my earlier point about sourcing, the article on Florence currently says: Opera was invented in Florence. This happens to be true - but I have no proof of it, and it may well simply be the opinion of the original writer. Much of the rest of the historical section is the same;

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Travel Guide Wiki

2012-04-12 Thread Casey Brown
On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 2:53 AM, Mark Jaroski mark.jaro...@gmail.com wrote: We're under the impression that there are other Wikimedia foundation projects which don't use NPOV, and so those of us favouring approaching WMF have been able to argue that we wouldn't be forced to use it. If that's

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Foundation-l] Volunteers Wanted: Funds Dissemination Process Advisory Group

2012-04-12 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 10 April 2012 17:51, Barry Newstead bnewst...@wikimedia.org wrote: If we simply select an FDC (btw - how would this happen?) and ask them to figure out the issues for themselves, this would be a recipe for serious challenges that could doom the FDC from the start. A relatively brief, but

Re: [Wikimedia-l] teaching people how to edit Wikipedia

2012-04-12 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Hello, Myself, I have a presentation which shows a basic wiki principle; I noticed that showing the same thing onwiki would make me jumping too much from page to page. Showing Wikipedia functionalities then onwiki I call Wikipedia surfing (version history, talk pages etc.). If it is a workshop

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcing Community Fellow Peter Coombe

2012-04-12 Thread James Forrester
On Thursday, April 12, 2012, Siko Bouterse wrote: It is my pleasure to introduce our newest Wikimedia Community Fellow of 2012, Peter Coombe. As a fellow, Pete will be working with the community to improve help documentation on English Wikipedia. He’ll be leading a 6 month effort and taking a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] teaching people how to edit Wikipedia

2012-04-12 Thread Heather Ford
Thanks, Ziko. That's really interesting and sounds like an effective way of getting them started. I'm curious what kinds of problems people contact you about when they start editing for real? On Apr 12, 2012, at 1:45 PM, Ziko van Dijk wrote: Hello, Myself, I have a presentation which

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Travel Guide Wiki

2012-04-12 Thread Tom Morris
On 12 April 2012 21:24, James Heilman jmh...@gmail.com wrote: With respect to audience, on Wikipedia we write for a general audience yet our medical content is still used by 50-70% of practicing physicians. Lonely planet lists hotels in different section based on price. On Wikipedia we use

[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcing Community Fellow Peter Coombe

2012-04-12 Thread Siko Bouterse
It is my pleasure to introduce our newest Wikimedia Community Fellow of 2012, Peter Coombe. As a fellow, Pete will be working with the community to improve help documentation on English Wikipedia. He’ll be leading a 6 month effort and taking a data-driven approach to reorganize and rewrite key

Re: [Wikimedia-l] teaching people how to edit Wikipedia

2012-04-12 Thread Chris Keating
Have a quick question for some work I'm doing on Wikipedia literacy: What resources are folks using to teach others how to edit Wikipedia? At Wikipedia Academies etc? Have a look at the Outreach Bookshelf: http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Bookshelf Welcome to Wikipedia is well-used by