Dear all:
Here are two announcements and one request from the Participation Support
Program Committee (formerly the Participation Grants Committee) and the WMF
regarding the Participation Support Program (formerly the Participation
Grants Program).
==A note from the Participation Support Program
2012/5/29 David Gerard :
> No, I think it's incorrect to assume "readable" is a euphemism for
> "dumbed down". Frankly, many academics are terrible writers. Because
> most people are terrible writers.
Indeed. As Wikipedia is a general reference work I think that
readability is part of the quality.
Hey :)
just a quick reminder that this is in 45 minutes.
Cheers
Lydia
On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Lydia Pintscher
wrote:
> Heya folks,
>
> I just wanted to let you know that the next Wikidata office hours will
> be on Tuesday and Wednesday next week. Denny and I will be around on
> IRC
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Tom Morris wrote:
> On 29 May 2012 15:28, Anthony wrote:
>> And I don't foresee OSM ever being able to catch up. Google is very
>> much a moving target. While OSM is working on catching up on
>> geolocation (address to lat/lon) information, Google is micromappi
On 29 May 2012 15:28, Anthony wrote:
> And I don't foresee OSM ever being able to catch up. Google is very
> much a moving target. While OSM is working on catching up on
> geolocation (address to lat/lon) information, Google is micromapping
> to the level of detail needed to program a self-drivi
2012/5/29 Anthony :
>> ...if you wanna go this way, I wonder if you "go to en.wikipedia.org
>> and just use it" if you want to plant tomatoes in your garden. I know
>> I wouldn't.
>
> I wouldn't use Britannica either. The context of the article is GPS
> navigation for automobiles.
I'm sorry, I do
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Strainu wrote:
> 2012/5/29 Anthony :
>> I'm not doubting that someone can take OSM data and make it into
>> something usable. I'm not even doubting that someone *has* taken OSM
>> data and made it into something usable.
>
> You obviously have already made up you
2012/5/29 Anthony :
> I'm not doubting that someone can take OSM data and make it into
> something usable. I'm not even doubting that someone *has* taken OSM
> data and made it into something usable.
You obviously have already made up you mind, so I doubt anything I'll
say will change that, but..
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 9:43 AM, Strainu wrote:
> 2012/5/29 Anthony :
>> I just tried osmand. I can't even figure out how to put in an
>> address. I then tried navfree usa.
>
> You're limiting yourself to Android, which isn't very fair. Try to get
> hold of a Garmin device with OSM maps and see
2012/5/29 Anthony :
> I just tried osmand. I can't even figure out how to put in an
> address. I then tried navfree usa.
You're limiting yourself to Android, which isn't very fair. Try to get
hold of a Garmin device with OSM maps and see if that makes a
difference. I suspect it will. (Garmin als
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 9:29 AM, Anthony wrote:
> I then tried navfree usa.
Looking more closely at the directions it did give me, it is having me
get off the toll highway at basically every exit and then getting back
on it. And the destination is off by 13 blocks (about a mile).
_
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 9:22 AM, Strainu wrote:
> 2012/5/29 Anthony :
>> The difference is that Wikipedia is usable in the real world, whereas
>> OSM, for the most part, is not.
>
> I see it the other way around: OSM, for the most part, IS usable in
> the real world. One can easily navigate using
2012/5/29 Anthony :
> The difference is that Wikipedia is usable in the real world, whereas
> OSM, for the most part, is not.
I see it the other way around: OSM, for the most part, IS usable in
the real world. One can easily navigate using OSM data on the main
roads in a country, and even on major
On 29 May 2012 13:38, Richard Symonds wrote:
> Tom: Is there a way to find out where OSM isn't very accurate/complete?
>
Well, there's OSM "bugs". Basically, there is a way you can file a bug
on the map, sort of like how you might leave a note on a talk page
(only there is some actual bug semanti
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 8:38 AM, Richard Symonds
wrote:
> Tom: Is there a way to find out where OSM isn't very accurate/complete?
Sure, but they all require comparison to something (a data source,
memory, the real world) which is accurate/complete.
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On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 8:27 AM, David Gerard wrote:
> On 29 May 2012 13:08, Anthony wrote:
>
>> The difference is that Wikipedia is usable in the real world, whereas
>> OSM, for the most part, is not.
>> Yes, TomTom is dying. But it's because of Google, not because of OSM.
>
>
> I'd actually fl
Tom: Is there a way to find out where OSM isn't very accurate/complete?
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On 29 May 2012 13:29, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote:
On Tue, 29 May 2012 13:23:25 +0100, Tom Morris wrote:
On 29 May 2012 13:08, Anthony wrote:
The difference is that Wikipedia is usable in the real world,
whereas
OSM, for the most part, is not.
Yes, TomTom is dying. But it's because of Google, not because of
OSM.
I'd say OSM is beginning
On 29 May 2012 13:08, Anthony wrote:
> The difference is that Wikipedia is usable in the real world, whereas
> OSM, for the most part, is not.
> Yes, TomTom is dying. But it's because of Google, not because of OSM.
I'd actually flag smartphones as the culprit. They're the good-enough
cheap alt
On 29 May 2012 13:08, Anthony wrote:
> The difference is that Wikipedia is usable in the real world, whereas
> OSM, for the most part, is not.
>
> Yes, TomTom is dying. But it's because of Google, not because of OSM.
>
I'd say OSM is beginning to be pretty usable in the real world. It's
usable f
The difference is that Wikipedia is usable in the real world, whereas
OSM, for the most part, is not.
Yes, TomTom is dying. But it's because of Google, not because of OSM.
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 7:28 AM, David Gerard wrote:
> TomTom press release:
> http://www.tomtom.com/en_gb/licensing/newsle
I was skeptical with parent-like satnavs when they were first
introduced back then; I still am skeptical today. What's inadequate
about "Read map*, pay attention to the road, use brain"?
Deryck
*I'm a big fan of using the automatic route-planning features of map
systems like Google Maps or even T
Ha, makes for a good read. Thanks for sharing, David!
Richard Symonds
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On 29 May 2012 12:28, David Gerard wrote:
> TomTom press release:
TomTom press release:
http://www.tomtom.com/en_gb/licensing/newsletter/201205/didyouknow/
OpenStreetMap volunteer response:
http://www.systemed.net/blog/index.php?post=23 Flags TomTom
quote-mining.
- d.
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On 29 May 2012 05:41, Ms. Anne Frazer wrote:
> However, when I read your words, the essence of your comments is clear in
> that part of your message is couched in attacking good prose because it is
> too difficult to read and understand. I remind myself that you don't mean to
> engage in a call f
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