Re: [Wikimedia-l] photography restrictions at the Olympics

2012-07-27 Thread Ray Saintonge
On 07/26/12 3:51 PM, Anthony wrote: On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Ray Saintonge wrote: Copyrights wouldn't apply because you own the copyrights in the pictures you take. Maybe. You own the copyright fully if you are the sole contributor of the creative input which went into the picture. I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] photography restrictions at the Olympics

2012-07-27 Thread Nikola Smolenski
On 27/07/12 03:47, birgitte...@yahoo.com wrote: On Jul 26, 2012, at 4:23 AM, wiki-l...@phizz.demon.co.uk wrote: There is a contractual arrangement between the IOC and the photographer as specified in terms and conditions on the ticket. If some one makes photos available commercially then they

Re: [Wikimedia-l] photography restrictions at the Olympics

2012-07-27 Thread Ray Saintonge
On 07/26/12 5:01 PM, FT2 wrote: but ticket T&C prohibitions include "unauthorised transmissions and/or recording through mobile telephones or other instruments (video cameras, tape recorders, etc)" I saw that in 19.3.2. It seems i

Re: [Wikimedia-l] photography restrictions at the Olympics

2012-07-27 Thread Ray Saintonge
On 07/26/12 6:47 PM, birgitte...@yahoo.com wrote: On Jul 26, 2012, at 4:23 AM, wiki-l...@phizz.demon.co.uk wrote: kikkocrist...@gmail.com wrote: Sources for the restrictions: * http://www.tickets.london2012.com/purchaseterms.html * PDF: http://j.mp/london2012prohibited I really can't figur

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimediauk-l] The situation with the chair

2012-07-27 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 7:26 PM, Charles Matthews < charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com> wrote: > The point really is who actually cares about ArbCom decisions > I am really surprised to see a former member of ArbCom say this. Everybody on this list cares about ArbCom decisions, most of the time, and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimediauk-l] The situation with the chair

2012-07-27 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
Irrespectively of the en.wp Arbcom decision (which I do not want to discuss and I am not qualified to discuss) I think it is a very good thing that wm.uk issued a statement. I wish other Chapters would follow the lead, if needed. When Vladimir Medeyko, the president of wm.ru, and, I believe, at

Re: [Wikimedia-l] photography restrictions at the Olympics

2012-07-27 Thread Anthony
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 3:35 AM, Ray Saintonge wrote: > I don't see that joint authorship enters into this at all. I think it's safe > to assume that the one holding the camera is the one making the creative > decisions about the photos. Then continue to advise people that they are the sole owner

Re: [Wikimedia-l] photography restrictions at the Olympics

2012-07-27 Thread wiki-list
wikim...@inbox.org wrote: > On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 3:35 AM, Ray Saintonge wrote: > > I don't see that joint authorship enters into this at all. I think it's safe > > to assume that the one holding the camera is the one making the creative > > decisions about the photos. > > Then continue to advi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] photography restrictions at the Olympics

2012-07-27 Thread Richard Symonds
I'm about to video the flypast, outside on the road in my dressing gown. Does that count as freedom of panorama? ;-) Richard Symonds, Wikimedia UK On Jul 27, 2012 3:48 PM, wrote: > wikim...@inbox.org wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 3:35 AM, Ray Saintonge > wrote: > > > I don't see that joint

Re: [Wikimedia-l] photography restrictions at the Olympics

2012-07-27 Thread Stevie Benton
Sounds like you're prepared for some flash photography. Ahem. On Jul 27, 2012 8:08 PM, "Richard Symonds" wrote: > I'm about to video the flypast, outside on the road in my dressing gown. > Does that count as freedom of panorama? ;-) > > Richard Symonds, Wikimedia UK > On Jul 27, 2012 3:48 PM, wr

Re: [Wikimedia-l] photography restrictions at the Olympics

2012-07-27 Thread Richard Symonds
Even for the east end of London, I got some odd looks. Video was a but rubbish, but I tried! Richard Symonds, Wikimedia UK On Jul 27, 2012 8:12 PM, "Stevie Benton" wrote: > Sounds like you're prepared for some flash photography. Ahem. > On Jul 27, 2012 8:08 PM, "Richard Symonds" < > richard.symo

Re: [Wikimedia-l] photography restrictions at the Olympics

2012-07-27 Thread Birgitte_sb
On Jul 27, 2012, at 8:14 AM, Anthony wrote: > On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 3:35 AM, Ray Saintonge wrote: >> I don't see that joint authorship enters into this at all. I think it's safe >> to assume that the one holding the camera is the one making the creative >> decisions about the photos. > >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] photography restrictions at the Olympics

2012-07-27 Thread Anthony
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 6:47 PM, wrote: > On Jul 27, 2012, at 8:14 AM, Anthony wrote: >> My advice is that the law isn't that simple, and that blanket >> statements of that type are quite often incorrect. > > To the degree that we can advise people at all on copyright, it is safe to > say that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] photography restrictions at the Olympics

2012-07-27 Thread Birgitte_sb
On Jul 27, 2012, at 7:29 PM, Anthony wrote: > On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 6:47 PM, wrote: >> On Jul 27, 2012, at 8:14 AM, Anthony wrote: >>> My advice is that the law isn't that simple, and that blanket >>> statements of that type are quite often incorrect. >> >> To the degree that we can advi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] photography restrictions at the Olympics

2012-07-27 Thread Birgitte_sb
On Jul 27, 2012, at 9:12 PM, birgitte...@yahoo.com wrote: > *Assuming the recording was produced with consent of the performers. I should have noted this only applies to live musical performances! Birgitte SB ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia

[Wikimedia-l] Upcoming Survey, Feedback requested, and Office Hour

2012-07-27 Thread Christine Moellenberndt
*Hi everyone, It's been a bit since I last emailed this list (or any list, for that matter!)... you may remember me, I worked at the Foundation last year in the Community Department, working with Philippe on any number of issues, as well as with the OTRS team. I've come back to work on a shor

[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] 2012-13 Annual Plan of the Wikimedia Foundation

2012-07-27 Thread Tilman Bayer
Hi all, the Wikimedia Foundation's 2012-13 Annual Plan has just been published at https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/File:2012-13_Wikimedia_Foundation_Plan_FINAL_FOR_WEBSITE.pdf accompanied by a Q&A: https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/2012-2013_Annual_Plan_Questions_and_Answers The plan wa