Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] 2012-13 Annual Plan of the Wikimedia Foundation

On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 1:27 AM, Keegan Peterzell wrote: > > > On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 1:11 AM, Samuel Klein wrote: >> >> I know a few people would like to see the talk namespaces of >> > wikimediafoundation.org opened up to general discussion, but that's a >> bit >> > tricky with raw HTML being

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] 2012-13 Annual Plan of the Wikimedia Foundation

On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 1:11 AM, Samuel Klein wrote: > > I know a few people would like to see the talk namespaces of > > wikimediafoundation.org opened up to general discussion, but that's a > bit > > tricky with raw HTML being allowed there. > > > This shouldn't be a blocker. Disallow raw HTML

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] 2012-13 Annual Plan of the Wikimedia Foundation

Thomas Dalton wrote: > On Jul 29, 2012 7:01 AM, "MZMcBride" wrote: >> Risker wrote: >>> This is a very good point, Thomas. Why exactly is there no place on a >>> community wiki where this is being discussed? Instead it is being >>> discussed on a mailing list to which the vast majority of the co

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] 2012-13 Annual Plan of the Wikimedia Foundation

On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 2:00 AM, MZMcBride wrote: > Risker wrote: > > This is a very good point, Thomas. Why exactly is there no place on a > > community wiki where this is being discussed? Instead it is being > > discussed on a mailing list to which the vast majority of the community > > does

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] 2012-13 Annual Plan of the Wikimedia Foundation

On Jul 29, 2012 7:01 AM, "MZMcBride" wrote: > > Risker wrote: > > This is a very good point, Thomas. Why exactly is there no place on a > > community wiki where this is being discussed? Instead it is being > > discussed on a mailing list to which the vast majority of the community > > does not s

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] 2012-13 Annual Plan of the Wikimedia Foundation

Risker wrote: > This is a very good point, Thomas. Why exactly is there no place on a > community wiki where this is being discussed? Instead it is being > discussed on a mailing list to which the vast majority of the community > does not subscribe. Because you haven't created such a place yet.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] 2012-13 Annual Plan of the Wikimedia Foundation

This is a very good point, Thomas. Why exactly is there no place on a community wiki where this is being discussed? Instead it is being discussed on a mailing list to which the vast majority of the community does not subscribe. Risker/Anne On 28 July 2012 10:59, Thomas Dalton wrote: > Thank

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] 2012-13 Annual Plan of the Wikimedia Foundation

Actually, on looking a bit more closely, it appears that the Engineering core positions include those that are intended to support non-core activities. That doesn't really add up; they should also be non-core. I also note that a lot of the activities in the strategic plan are considered non-core.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] 2012-13 Annual Plan of the Wikimedia Foundation

On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 7:44 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote: > > It's not a very large increase on last year. It's a little tricky to make > sure you are comparing like with like given the new way of treating chapter > revenues and spending, but I think the right number to compare with is > $39.2m. A

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] 2012-13 Annual Plan of the Wikimedia Foundation

On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 5:58 AM, Tilman Bayer wrote: > Hi all, > > the Wikimedia Foundation's 2012-13 Annual Plan has just been published at > > > https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/File:2012-13_Wikimedia_Foundation_Plan_FINAL_FOR_WEBSITE.pdf > > accompanied by a Q&A: > > > https://wikimediafou

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] 2012-13 Annual Plan of the Wikimedia Foundation

On Jul 29, 2012 3:45 AM, "Risker" wrote: > > I'm more curious about where the 9.9 million in revenue will come from in > Q4, to be honest. (P.64 of the plan) The plan does seem to be missing the details on revenue... Isn't there normally a slide breaking down revenue into fundraiser, grants, maj

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] 2012-13 Annual Plan of the Wikimedia Foundation

I'm more curious about where the 9.9 million in revenue will come from in Q4, to be honest. (P.64 of the plan) Absent that, I'm not seeing how all those new positions (particularly the 30 in Engineering) will be paid for. Risker/Anne On 28 July 2012 22:32, Béria Lima wrote: > 46 millions?? Tha

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] 2012-13 Annual Plan of the Wikimedia Foundation

On Jul 29, 2012 3:33 AM, "Béria Lima" wrote: > > 46 millions?? That is a joke right? Please someone tell me that this is a > joke. It's not a very large increase on last year. It's a little tricky to make sure you are comparing like with like given the new way of treating chapter revenues and spe

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] 2012-13 Annual Plan of the Wikimedia Foundation

46 millions?? That is a joke right? Please someone tell me that this is a joke. _ *Béria Lima* *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. Ajude-nos a construir esse sonho. * On

Re: [Wikimedia-l] COI+ certification proposal

+1 for a more minimalist version; good initiative in principle. SJ On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 3:31 PM, David Gerard wrote: > On 28 July 2012 19:03, Ocaasi Ocaasi wrote: > > > Thanks for your feedback. I think a somewhat 'heavyweight' approach is > necessary to give the concept teeth. The goal i

Re: [Wikimedia-l] COI+ certification proposal

On 28 July 2012 19:03, Ocaasi Ocaasi wrote: > Thanks for your feedback. I think a somewhat 'heavyweight' approach is > necessary to give the concept teeth. The goal is to have this adopted by the > major PR organizations in the world, and if it doesn't set some ambitious but > achievable goa

Re: [Wikimedia-l] photography restrictions at the Olympics

On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 4:41 AM, Ray Saintonge wrote: > I suppose that, like any good Wikimedian, we like to balance ourselves on > the edge cases. We can imagine many. The underlying case would be IOC vs. > Uploader. These other points about joint authorship and photo editing really > have more b

Re: [Wikimedia-l] COI+ certification proposal

Hi David,  Thanks for your feedback.  I think a somewhat 'heavyweight' approach is necessary to give the concept teeth.  The goal is to have this adopted by the major PR organizations in the world, and if it doesn't set some ambitious but achievable goals it will just fade into the background a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] photography restrictions at the Olympics

On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 1:44 PM, wrote: > 2.2 By applying for, purchasing, holding or using a Ticket, a Ticket Holder > agrees that he or she shall comply with these Terms and Conditions. > > http://www.tickets.london2012.com/purchaseterms.html Well, yeah, but legally that's nonsense. I can wr

Re: [Wikimedia-l] photography restrictions at the Olympics

On Jul 28, 2012, at 12:28 PM, Platonides wrote: > On 27/07/12 09:46, Nikola Smolenski wrote: >> An excellent list :) I'd like to add: you sneak in the stadium without >> paying the ticket. IOC can do nothing. >> >> Seriously, if IOC decides to go after someone, don't they first have to >> prove

Re: [Wikimedia-l] photography restrictions at the Olympics

On 24/07/12 12:15, Richard Symonds wrote: > WMUK have asked, and we live in London; some of us next door to the > stadium. The answer is a resounding 'no' from all corners, even when we > speak to the government. We've got a volunteer with very good access to the > games, but even behind the scenes

Re: [Wikimedia-l] photography restrictions at the Olympics

On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Platonides wrote: > On 27/07/12 09:46, Nikola Smolenski wrote: >> An excellent list :) I'd like to add: you sneak in the stadium without >> paying the ticket. IOC can do nothing. >> >> Seriously, if IOC decides to go after someone, don't they first have to >> prove

Re: [Wikimedia-l] photography restrictions at the Olympics

On 27/07/12 09:46, Nikola Smolenski wrote: > An excellent list :) I'd like to add: you sneak in the stadium without > paying the ticket. IOC can do nothing. > > Seriously, if IOC decides to go after someone, don't they first have to > prove that he bought the ticket? And how can they prove that?

Re: [Wikimedia-l] COI+ certification proposal

On 28 July 2012 17:47, Ocaasi Ocaasi wrote: > Hi, I would love feedback about a proposal to help improve the relationship > between COI editors and Wikipedia. > The idea is to guide paid/PR/Corporate participants--who follow a list of > ethics and best practices--to success in their editing. I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] COI+ certification proposal

Hi, I would love feedback about a proposal to help improve the relationship between COI editors and Wikipedia. The idea is to guide paid/PR/Corporate participants--who follow a list of ethics and best practices--to success in their editing.  I've detailed the concept here: http://en.wikipedia.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] 2012-13 Annual Plan of the Wikimedia Foundation

On 28 July 2012 04:58, Tilman Bayer wrote: > Hi all, > > the Wikimedia Foundation's 2012-13 Annual Plan has just been published at > > https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/File:2012-13_Wikimedia_Foundation_Plan_FINAL_FOR_WEBSITE.pdf > > accompanied by a Q&A: > > https://wikimediafoundation.org/wik

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] 2012-13 Annual Plan of the Wikimedia Foundation

Thank you for publishing this. Where is the best place to discuss this plan? On 28 July 2012 04:58, Tilman Bayer wrote: > Hi all, > > the Wikimedia Foundation's 2012-13 Annual Plan has just been published at > > https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/File:2012-13_Wikimedia_Foundation_Plan_FINAL_FOR

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Two Community Fellowship proposals that might interest you (feedback requested)

Hi folks!   Two Community Fellowship Proposals you might be interested in: The Wikipedia Adventure is a dynamic, interactive learning game about how to use Wikipedia (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Fellowships/Project_Ideas/The_Wikipedia_Adventure).   The Wikipedia Library is a sing

Re: [Wikimedia-l] photography restrictions at the Olympics

On 07/27/12 7:15 AM, wiki-l...@phizz.demon.co.uk wrote: wikim...@inbox.org wrote: On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 3:35 AM, Ray Saintonge wrote: I don't see that joint authorship enters into this at all. I think it's safe to assume that the one holding the camera is the one making the creative decision