Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] 2012-13 Annual Plan of the Wikimedia Foundation

2012-07-28 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 1:27 AM, Keegan Peterzell wrote:

>
>
> On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 1:11 AM, Samuel Klein  wrote:
>>
>>  I know a few people would like to see the talk namespaces of
>> > wikimediafoundation.org opened up to general discussion, but that's a
>> bit
>> > tricky with raw HTML being allowed there.
>>
>>
>> This shouldn't be a blocker.  Disallow raw HTML on talk pages?
>> Simply restrict editing to a higher 'autoconfirmed' standard?
>>
>> I would like to see your ideas on how to do this; it seems like a good
>> idea.
>>
>> SJ
>
>
> Well, the biggest blocker would be that the WMF wiki is private.
>
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For editing, that is.  I have what I presume to be my obituary on the
wiki:  http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/User:Kpeterzell

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] 2012-13 Annual Plan of the Wikimedia Foundation

2012-07-28 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 1:11 AM, Samuel Klein  wrote:
>
> I know a few people would like to see the talk namespaces of
> > wikimediafoundation.org opened up to general discussion, but that's a
> bit
> > tricky with raw HTML being allowed there.
>
>
> This shouldn't be a blocker.  Disallow raw HTML on talk pages?
> Simply restrict editing to a higher 'autoconfirmed' standard?
>
> I would like to see your ideas on how to do this; it seems like a good
> idea.
>
> SJ


Well, the biggest blocker would be that the WMF wiki is private.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] 2012-13 Annual Plan of the Wikimedia Foundation

2012-07-28 Thread MZMcBride
Thomas Dalton wrote:
> On Jul 29, 2012 7:01 AM, "MZMcBride"  wrote:
>> Risker wrote:
>>> This is a very good point, Thomas.  Why exactly is there no place on a
>>> community wiki where this is being discussed?  Instead it is being
>>> discussed on a mailing list to which the vast majority of the community
>>> does not subscribe.
>> 
>> Because you haven't created such a place yet.
> 
> It is generally best for the person that announces something to specify a
> forum. That way you avoid discussion ending up split between multiple
> venues.

Given the bidirectional nature of this mailing list, I think the implicit
option (replying here, on the same list where the plan was announced) was
clear, but okay.

MZMcBride



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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] 2012-13 Annual Plan of the Wikimedia Foundation

2012-07-28 Thread Samuel Klein
On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 2:00 AM, MZMcBride  wrote:

> Risker wrote:
> > This is a very good point, Thomas.  Why exactly is there no place on a
> > community wiki where this is being discussed?  Instead it is being
> > discussed on a mailing list to which the vast majority of the community
> > does not subscribe.
>
> Because you haven't created such a place yet. Meta-Wiki would be the
> appropriate wiki.


Let's use the page we used to use to discuss plans and budgets:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_budget

I know a few people would like to see the talk namespaces of
> wikimediafoundation.org opened up to general discussion, but that's a bit
> tricky with raw HTML being allowed there.


This shouldn't be a blocker.  Disallow raw HTML on talk pages?
Simply restrict editing to a higher 'autoconfirmed' standard?

I would like to see your ideas on how to do this; it seems like a good idea.

SJ
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] 2012-13 Annual Plan of the Wikimedia Foundation

2012-07-28 Thread Thomas Dalton
On Jul 29, 2012 7:01 AM, "MZMcBride"  wrote:
>
> Risker wrote:
> > This is a very good point, Thomas.  Why exactly is there no place on a
> > community wiki where this is being discussed?  Instead it is being
> > discussed on a mailing list to which the vast majority of the community
> > does not subscribe.
>
> Because you haven't created such a place yet.

It is generally best for the person that announces something to specify a
forum. That way you avoid discussion ending up split between multiple
venues.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] 2012-13 Annual Plan of the Wikimedia Foundation

2012-07-28 Thread MZMcBride
Risker wrote:
> This is a very good point, Thomas.  Why exactly is there no place on a
> community wiki where this is being discussed?  Instead it is being
> discussed on a mailing list to which the vast majority of the community
> does not subscribe.

Because you haven't created such a place yet. Meta-Wiki would be the
appropriate wiki. You can use a generic forum such as
 or feel free to just pick
a title (such as ).

There used to be strategy.wikimedia.org, but there's general agreement that
we want to push these types of discussions into a central wiki, and
Meta-Wiki is that wiki.

I know a few people would like to see the talk namespaces of
wikimediafoundation.org opened up to general discussion, but that's a bit
tricky with raw HTML being allowed there. I have some thoughts on this, but
haven't had much motivation to act on them.

And this all isn't to say that I agree with your premise. This mailing list
is a perfectly fine place to discuss the Annual Plan. If the community wants
to be engaged in these types of discussions, they know to join and use this
mailing list. It's not as though this is list is some new and foreign forum.

MZMcBride



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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] 2012-13 Annual Plan of the Wikimedia Foundation

2012-07-28 Thread Risker
This is a very good point, Thomas.  Why exactly is there no place on a
community wiki where this is being discussed?  Instead it is being
discussed on a mailing list to which the vast majority of the community
does not subscribe.

Risker/Anne



On 28 July 2012 10:59, Thomas Dalton  wrote:

> Thank you for publishing this. Where is the best place to discuss this
> plan?
>
> On 28 July 2012 04:58, Tilman Bayer  wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > the Wikimedia Foundation's 2012-13 Annual Plan has just been published at
> >
> >
> https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/File:2012-13_Wikimedia_Foundation_Plan_FINAL_FOR_WEBSITE.pdf
> >
> > accompanied by a Q&A:
> >
> >
> https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/2012-2013_Annual_Plan_Questions_and_Answers
> >
> > The plan was approved by the Board of Trustees at its meeting in
> > Washington, DC, at Wikimania, and previously outlined to the
> > Foundation staff and interested community members at the monthly staff
> > meeting on July 5, 2012. We were planning to publish the video
> > recording of that meeting at this point, but encountered technical
> > difficulties; the video will hopefully become available soon.
> >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] 2012-13 Annual Plan of the Wikimedia Foundation

2012-07-28 Thread Risker
Actually, on looking a bit more closely, it appears that the Engineering
core positions include those that are intended to support non-core
activities.  That doesn't really add up; they should also be non-core.

I also note that a lot of the activities in the strategic plan are
considered non-core.  That seems to put the strategic plan at significant
risk.

Risker/Anne

On 28 July 2012 22:45, Risker  wrote:

> I'm more curious about where the 9.9 million in revenue will come from in
> Q4, to be honest.  (P.64 of the plan) Absent that, I'm not seeing how all
> those new positions (particularly the 30 in Engineering) will be paid for.
>
> Risker/Anne
>
>
> On 28 July 2012 22:32, Béria Lima  wrote:
>
>> 46 millions?? That is a joke right? Please someone tell me that this is a
>> joke.
>> _
>> *Béria Lima*
>>
>> *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
>> livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. Ajude-nos a
>> construir esse sonho. *
>>
>>
>> On 28 July 2012 00:58, Tilman Bayer  wrote:
>>
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > the Wikimedia Foundation's 2012-13 Annual Plan has just been published
>> at
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/File:2012-13_Wikimedia_Foundation_Plan_FINAL_FOR_WEBSITE.pdf
>> >
>> > accompanied by a Q&A:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/2012-2013_Annual_Plan_Questions_and_Answers
>> >
>> > The plan was approved by the Board of Trustees at its meeting in
>> > Washington, DC, at Wikimania, and previously outlined to the
>> > Foundation staff and interested community members at the monthly staff
>> > meeting on July 5, 2012. We were planning to publish the video
>> > recording of that meeting at this point, but encountered technical
>> > difficulties; the video will hopefully become available soon.
>> >
>> > --
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>> > Senior Operations Analyst (Movement Communications)
>> > Wikimedia Foundation
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] 2012-13 Annual Plan of the Wikimedia Foundation

2012-07-28 Thread Philippe Beaudette




On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 7:44 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote:

>
> It's not a very large increase on last year. It's a little tricky to make
> sure you are comparing like with like given the new way of treating chapter
> revenues and spending, but I think the right number to compare with is
> $39.2m. An increase to $46.1m is an 18% increase. That's tiny compared to
> the growth we've seen in previous years.



It also tracks fairly closely to the strategy (
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c0/WMF_StrategicPlan2011_spreads.pdf),
page 16.

pb
(who had no active role in the design of this year's plan, but did in the
design of the strategy)
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] 2012-13 Annual Plan of the Wikimedia Foundation

2012-07-28 Thread aude
On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 5:58 AM, Tilman Bayer  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> the Wikimedia Foundation's 2012-13 Annual Plan has just been published at
>
>
> https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/File:2012-13_Wikimedia_Foundation_Plan_FINAL_FOR_WEBSITE.pdf
>
> accompanied by a Q&A:
>
>
> https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/2012-2013_Annual_Plan_Questions_and_Answers
>
> The plan was approved by the Board of Trustees at its meeting in
> Washington, DC, at Wikimania, and previously outlined to the
> Foundation staff and interested community members at the monthly staff
> meeting on July 5, 2012. We were planning to publish the video
> recording of that meeting at this point, but encountered technical
> difficulties; the video will hopefully become available soon.
>
>
Just a small point

I'm curious how the proposed $255,000 for Wikimania travel for staff,
board, advisory board and volunteers compares with what was actually spent
this year?

In the 2011-2012 plan, I see that $96,000 was proposed.  While the travel
costs for SF staff to DC are much less, I find this too low and hard to
believe. Some more details and breakdown by scholarships vs.
staff/board/advisory board would be nice.

I'm curious if we are planning a higher number of scholarships for
volunteers for next year? (as the overall WMF budget increases) and how
many staff are we planning to send next year?

Cheers,
Katie


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] 2012-13 Annual Plan of the Wikimedia Foundation

2012-07-28 Thread Thomas Dalton
On Jul 29, 2012 3:45 AM, "Risker"  wrote:
>
> I'm more curious about where the 9.9 million in revenue will come from in
> Q4, to be honest.  (P.64 of the plan)

The plan does seem to be missing the details on revenue... Isn't there
normally a slide breaking down revenue into fundraiser, grants, major
gifts, earned income, etc? (See slide 49 of last year's plan.)
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] 2012-13 Annual Plan of the Wikimedia Foundation

2012-07-28 Thread Risker
I'm more curious about where the 9.9 million in revenue will come from in
Q4, to be honest.  (P.64 of the plan) Absent that, I'm not seeing how all
those new positions (particularly the 30 in Engineering) will be paid for.

Risker/Anne

On 28 July 2012 22:32, Béria Lima  wrote:

> 46 millions?? That is a joke right? Please someone tell me that this is a
> joke.
> _
> *Béria Lima*
>
> *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
> livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. Ajude-nos a
> construir esse sonho. *
>
>
> On 28 July 2012 00:58, Tilman Bayer  wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > the Wikimedia Foundation's 2012-13 Annual Plan has just been published at
> >
> >
> >
> https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/File:2012-13_Wikimedia_Foundation_Plan_FINAL_FOR_WEBSITE.pdf
> >
> > accompanied by a Q&A:
> >
> >
> >
> https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/2012-2013_Annual_Plan_Questions_and_Answers
> >
> > The plan was approved by the Board of Trustees at its meeting in
> > Washington, DC, at Wikimania, and previously outlined to the
> > Foundation staff and interested community members at the monthly staff
> > meeting on July 5, 2012. We were planning to publish the video
> > recording of that meeting at this point, but encountered technical
> > difficulties; the video will hopefully become available soon.
> >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] 2012-13 Annual Plan of the Wikimedia Foundation

2012-07-28 Thread Thomas Dalton
On Jul 29, 2012 3:33 AM, "Béria Lima"  wrote:
>
> 46 millions?? That is a joke right? Please someone tell me that this is a
> joke.

It's not a very large increase on last year. It's a little tricky to make
sure you are comparing like with like given the new way of treating chapter
revenues and spending, but I think the right number to compare with is
$39.2m. An increase to $46.1m is an 18% increase. That's tiny compared to
the growth we've seen in previous years.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] 2012-13 Annual Plan of the Wikimedia Foundation

2012-07-28 Thread Béria Lima
46 millions?? That is a joke right? Please someone tell me that this is a
joke.
_
*Béria Lima*

*Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. Ajude-nos a
construir esse sonho. *


On 28 July 2012 00:58, Tilman Bayer  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> the Wikimedia Foundation's 2012-13 Annual Plan has just been published at
>
>
> https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/File:2012-13_Wikimedia_Foundation_Plan_FINAL_FOR_WEBSITE.pdf
>
> accompanied by a Q&A:
>
>
> https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/2012-2013_Annual_Plan_Questions_and_Answers
>
> The plan was approved by the Board of Trustees at its meeting in
> Washington, DC, at Wikimania, and previously outlined to the
> Foundation staff and interested community members at the monthly staff
> meeting on July 5, 2012. We were planning to publish the video
> recording of that meeting at this point, but encountered technical
> difficulties; the video will hopefully become available soon.
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] COI+ certification proposal

2012-07-28 Thread Samuel Klein
+1 for a more minimalist version; good initiative in principle.  SJ

On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 3:31 PM, David Gerard  wrote:

> On 28 July 2012 19:03, Ocaasi Ocaasi  wrote:
>
> > Thanks for your feedback.  I think a somewhat 'heavyweight' approach is
> necessary to give the concept teeth.  The goal is to have this adopted by
> the major PR organizations in the world, and if it doesn't set some
> ambitious but achievable goals it will just fade into the background as
> other attempts have.  Do you have any comments on which parts seem onerous
> or unnecessary?
>
>
> Not off the top of my head. I don't disapprove of the initiative
> itself. I'm vaguely contemplating what a minimal version would look
> like.
>
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] COI+ certification proposal

2012-07-28 Thread David Gerard
On 28 July 2012 19:03, Ocaasi Ocaasi  wrote:

> Thanks for your feedback.  I think a somewhat 'heavyweight' approach is 
> necessary to give the concept teeth.  The goal is to have this adopted by the 
> major PR organizations in the world, and if it doesn't set some ambitious but 
> achievable goals it will just fade into the background as other attempts 
> have.  Do you have any comments on which parts seem onerous or unnecessary?


Not off the top of my head. I don't disapprove of the initiative
itself. I'm vaguely contemplating what a minimal version would look
like.


- d.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] photography restrictions at the Olympics

2012-07-28 Thread Anthony
On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 4:41 AM, Ray Saintonge  wrote:
> I suppose that, like any good Wikimedian, we like to balance ourselves on
> the edge cases. We can imagine many. The underlying case would be IOC vs.
> Uploader. These other points about joint authorship and photo editing really
> have more bearing on the identity of the defendant.

I assume that the IOC has been granted some sort of permission by the
various participants in the olympic events.  So if you're
photographing, say, the opening ceremony, then your concern would not
only be with regard to the rights of the IOC directly, but also with
the rights of any opening ceremony participants who granted an
exclusive license to IOC.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] COI+ certification proposal

2012-07-28 Thread Ocaasi Ocaasi
Hi David, 

Thanks for your feedback.  I think a somewhat 'heavyweight' approach is 
necessary to give the concept teeth.  The goal is to have this adopted by the 
major PR organizations in the world, and if it doesn't set some ambitious but 
achievable goals it will just fade into the background as other attempts have.  
Do you have any comments on which parts seem onerous or unnecessary?
 
Jake Orlowitz
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] photography restrictions at the Olympics

2012-07-28 Thread Anthony
On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 1:44 PM,   wrote:
> 2.2 By applying for, purchasing, holding or using a Ticket, a Ticket Holder 
> agrees that he or she shall comply with these Terms and Conditions.
>
> http://www.tickets.london2012.com/purchaseterms.html

Well, yeah, but legally that's nonsense.  I can write "by reading this
email you agree to comply with these Terms and Conditions", but
(hopefully?) no court is going to uphold that.

The key to enforcability is that the ticket grants a license.  If you
don't agree to the Terms and Conditions, then you don't have a valid
license to enter the premises.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] photography restrictions at the Olympics

2012-07-28 Thread Birgitte_sb

On Jul 28, 2012, at 12:28 PM, Platonides  wrote:

> On 27/07/12 09:46, Nikola Smolenski wrote:
>> An excellent list :) I'd like to add: you sneak in the stadium without
>> paying the ticket. IOC can do nothing.
>> 
>> Seriously, if IOC decides to go after someone, don't they first have to
>> prove that he bought the ticket? And how can they prove that?
> 
> What if someone else bought the ticket and then gifted it to you?
> 
> 
> 


2.2 By applying for, purchasing, holding or using a Ticket, a Ticket Holder 
agrees that he or she shall comply with these Terms and Conditions.

http://www.tickets.london2012.com/purchaseterms.html
Birgitte SB
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] photography restrictions at the Olympics

2012-07-28 Thread Platonides
On 24/07/12 12:15, Richard Symonds wrote:
> WMUK have asked, and we live in London; some of us next door to the
> stadium. The answer is a resounding 'no' from all corners, even when we
> speak to the government. We've got a volunteer with very good access to the
> games, but even behind the scenes it's difficult to get photographs.
> 
> The IOC are not here to give things away for free, it seems: something
> which is painfully apparent to those who've seen the ticket prices!
> 
> Richard Symonds, Wikimedia UK

Did you try to get a compromise offering a delayed publication?
ie. You take photographs but do not make them available under a free
license until after X time (you coould use a more restrictive license
such as CC-BY-NC-SA or not to publish it at all during the "embargo").

As I see it, they want that the media reporting the event is all
acreditated, not republishing third-party images (perhaps to get some
quality level, maybe to make it a selling point for accreditations)

However, all those agencies, TVs and newspapers have no use of those
images after the event.  Much less to scrape others coverage. One month
after the event, it will get buried in the archive.
But our article will be left without a free image for 70 years (plus
author lifetime). It would be suboptimal not being able to publish them
right away, but it is very sad not having a photograph of  gold
medal just because IOC sold draconian tickets.


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] photography restrictions at the Olympics

2012-07-28 Thread Anthony
On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Platonides  wrote:
> On 27/07/12 09:46, Nikola Smolenski wrote:
>> An excellent list :) I'd like to add: you sneak in the stadium without
>> paying the ticket. IOC can do nothing.
>>
>> Seriously, if IOC decides to go after someone, don't they first have to
>> prove that he bought the ticket? And how can they prove that?
>
> What if someone else bought the ticket and then gifted it to you?

That would be equivalent to sneaking in, since tickets are non-transferable.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] photography restrictions at the Olympics

2012-07-28 Thread Platonides
On 27/07/12 09:46, Nikola Smolenski wrote:
> An excellent list :) I'd like to add: you sneak in the stadium without
> paying the ticket. IOC can do nothing.
> 
> Seriously, if IOC decides to go after someone, don't they first have to
> prove that he bought the ticket? And how can they prove that?

What if someone else bought the ticket and then gifted it to you?



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Re: [Wikimedia-l] COI+ certification proposal

2012-07-28 Thread David Gerard
On 28 July 2012 17:47, Ocaasi Ocaasi  wrote:

> Hi, I would love feedback about a proposal to help improve the relationship 
> between COI editors and Wikipedia.
> The idea is to guide paid/PR/Corporate participants--who follow a list of 
> ethics and best practices--to success in their editing.  I've detailed the 
> concept here:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:COI_certification


Immediately strikes me as a way too heavyweight approach to a not-bad
idea. Does it need to be that big a thing? (Perhaps it does.)


- d.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] COI+ certification proposal

2012-07-28 Thread Ocaasi Ocaasi
Hi, I would love feedback about a proposal to help improve the relationship 
between COI editors and Wikipedia.

The idea is to guide paid/PR/Corporate participants--who follow a list of 
ethics and best practices--to success in their editing.  I've detailed the 
concept here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:COI_certification 


Looking forward to hearing your thoughts,
 
Jake Orlowitz
Wikipedia editor: Ocaasi
http://enwp.org/User:Ocaasi
wikioca...@yahoo.com
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] 2012-13 Annual Plan of the Wikimedia Foundation

2012-07-28 Thread geni
On 28 July 2012 04:58, Tilman Bayer  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> the Wikimedia Foundation's 2012-13 Annual Plan has just been published at
>
> https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/File:2012-13_Wikimedia_Foundation_Plan_FINAL_FOR_WEBSITE.pdf
>
> accompanied by a Q&A:
>
> https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/2012-2013_Annual_Plan_Questions_and_Answers
>
> The plan was approved by the Board of Trustees at its meeting in
> Washington, DC, at Wikimania, and previously outlined to the
> Foundation staff and interested community members at the monthly staff
> meeting on July 5, 2012. We were planning to publish the video
> recording of that meeting at this point, but encountered technical
> difficulties; the video will hopefully become available soon.
>
> --
> Tilman Bayer
> Senior Operations Analyst (Movement Communications)
> Wikimedia Foundation
> IRC (Freenode): HaeB


$42.1 million? you could almost buy an olympic opening ceremony for that.


-- 
geni

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] 2012-13 Annual Plan of the Wikimedia Foundation

2012-07-28 Thread Thomas Dalton
Thank you for publishing this. Where is the best place to discuss this plan?

On 28 July 2012 04:58, Tilman Bayer  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> the Wikimedia Foundation's 2012-13 Annual Plan has just been published at
>
> https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/File:2012-13_Wikimedia_Foundation_Plan_FINAL_FOR_WEBSITE.pdf
>
> accompanied by a Q&A:
>
> https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/2012-2013_Annual_Plan_Questions_and_Answers
>
> The plan was approved by the Board of Trustees at its meeting in
> Washington, DC, at Wikimania, and previously outlined to the
> Foundation staff and interested community members at the monthly staff
> meeting on July 5, 2012. We were planning to publish the video
> recording of that meeting at this point, but encountered technical
> difficulties; the video will hopefully become available soon.
>
> --
> Tilman Bayer
> Senior Operations Analyst (Movement Communications)
> Wikimedia Foundation
> IRC (Freenode): HaeB
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Two Community Fellowship proposals that might interest you (feedback requested)

2012-07-28 Thread Ocaasi Ocaasi
Hi folks!  

Two Community Fellowship Proposals you might be interested in:

The Wikipedia Adventure is a dynamic, interactive learning game about how to 
use Wikipedia 
(http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Fellowships/Project_Ideas/The_Wikipedia_Adventure).
  

The Wikipedia Library is a single point of access for donated resources like 
HighBeam, Credo and JSTOR 
(http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Fellowships/Project_Ideas/The_Wikipedia_Library).
  

Feedback on either would be great!

 
Jake Orlowitz
Wikipedia editor: Ocaasi
http://enwp.org/User:Ocaasi
wikioca...@yahoo.com
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] photography restrictions at the Olympics

2012-07-28 Thread Ray Saintonge

On 07/27/12 7:15 AM, wiki-l...@phizz.demon.co.uk wrote:

wikim...@inbox.org wrote:

On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 3:35 AM, Ray Saintonge  wrote:

I don't see that joint authorship enters into this at all. I think it's safe
to assume that the one holding the camera is the one making the creative
decisions about the photos.

Then continue to advise people that they are the sole owner of a
photograph just because they clicked the shutter.

My advice is that the law isn't that simple, and that blanket
statements of that type are quite often incorrect.

Suppose I take a photo of someone jumping over a hurdle. Most likely I'd alter 
the raw image somewhat. At least change the white balance, the colour 
saturation and mid grey point, but I might also change perspective, clone out 
some elements, blur other parts, maybe de-emphasis the colour is some other 
areas. The resulting image may be rather different to the image that was 
originally recorded.

Now asuppose that the I who takes the photo is not the same I that does the 
post-processing.


I suppose that, like any good Wikimedian, we like to balance ourselves 
on the edge cases. We can imagine many. The underlying case would be IOC 
vs. Uploader. These other points about joint authorship and photo 
editing really have more bearing on the identity of the defendant. They 
could possibly arise, but at this stage they just obscure the main issue.


Ray

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