Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMIL new Executive Director
Hello Dorit, Welcome aboard! --- Shabab Mustafa WMBD On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 5:51 AM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote: A warm welcome to Dorit! Thank you for the update, Itzik. And congrats on your new lovely site. SJ On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 3:58 PM, Itzik Edri it...@infra.co.il wrote: Hi, After four months After 6 years without employees, and 4 months of the recruitment process (collecting resumes and interviews) I happy to announce that last month WMIL hired Executive Director to support the increase in WMIL's activities, projects, volunteers and professionalization.. Meet Dorit Shafir Dyamant: Over the last decade she mainly worked at NGO's in a variety of roles: from marketing through projects management and producing conferences. She have MA degree in nonprofit management from the Hebrew University in Jerusalem and B.A in literature and comparative philosophy from University of Haifa. As a student at the Hebrew University, she founded and produced for 6 years the project Words and poets' - an open evenings meetings for young poets. She married to Itay, and mother to Marom and Shalev. And I quote her, I love to read three books at the same time, I write primarily for myself all my life, and I fervently supports positive thinking and action based sharing and cross-fertilization. She will attend the ChapConf in Milan next week and I encourage her colleagues (CEO/ED and any chapters representatives or WMF's staff) to meet her, share tips and welcome her to our Wikimedia family! Dorit email is do...@wikimedia.org.il and she already been subscribed to all the relevant mailing lists. I will use this opportunity also to share our new website (we just launched it today) - we still have lot of bugs to fix and text improvement, but as most of you can't understand Hebrew, it will not really change a lot for you :) (We will launch the English version in the next few weeks): http://www.wikimedia.org.il Regards, Itzik Edri WMIL Chairman ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- Samuel Klein @metasj w:user:sj +1 617 529 4266 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] The Signpost -- Volume 9, Issue 14 -- 08 April 2013
Wikizine: Introducing ''Wikizine'': WMF scales back feature after outcry http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2013-04-08/Wikizine News and notes: French intelligence agents threaten Wikimedia volunteer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2013-04-08/News_and_notes Featured content: Wikipedia loves poetry http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2013-04-08/Featured_content WikiProject report: Earthshattering WikiProject Earthquakes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2013-04-08/WikiProject_report Arbitration report: Subject experts needed for ''Argentine History'' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2013-04-08/Arbitration_report Technology report: Testing week for developers and their deployments http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2013-04-08/Technology_report Single page view http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Signpost/Single PDF version http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book:Wikipedia_Signpost/2013-04-08 http://identi.ca/wikisignpost / https://twitter.com/wikisignpost -- Wikipedia Signpost Staff http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost ___ Please note: all replies sent to this mailing list will be immediately directed to Wikimedia-l, the public mailing list of the Wikimedia community. For more information about Wikimedia-l: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ WikimediaAnnounce-l mailing list wikimediaannounc...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaannounce-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
[Wikimedia-l] [Language Engineering] Reminder: Office hour on 10th April 2013 at 1700 UTC/1000 PDT
* Hello, * * * * This is a reminder that the Language Engineering team will be hosting an IRC office hour today, i.e. 10th of April 2013 at 1700 UTC/1000 PDT on #wikimedia-office (Freenode). The agenda can be found in the section below. * * * * Thanks * * Runa * * * * Agenda: * * 1. Introductions 2. Translate UX - Deployment and other news 3. Language Mavens - an outreach initiative with the Wikimedia language communities 4. MediaWiki Language Extension Bundle (MLEB) Release 5. Q/A - We shall be taking questions during the session. Questions can also be sent to runa at wikimedia dot org r...@wikimedia.org before the event and can be addressed during the office-hour. * -- Forwarded message -- From: Runa Bhattacharjee rbhattachar...@wikimedia.org Date: Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 3:07 PM Subject: [Language Engineering] Office hour on 10th April 2013 at 1700 UTC/1000 PDT To: mediawiki-i...@lists.wikimedia.org, Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, wikitec...@lists.wikimedia.org * Hello, The Wikimedia Language Engineering team [1] invites everyone to join the team’s monthly office hour on April 10, 2013. We have some exciting updates about our ongoing projects, some of which have also been shared in our recent blog posts[2]. During this session we would like to walk through some of them. The team would also like to introduce a new outreach program which was mentioned in the last office hour held on 13th March 2013 [3]. Event details and the general agenda is mentioned below. See you all at the IRC office hour! regards Runa Event Details: == Date: 2013-04-10 (Wednesday) Time: 1700 UTC, 1000 PDT IRC channel: #wikimedia-office on irc.freenode.net Agenda: 1. Introductions 2. Translate UX - Deployment and other news 3. Language Mavens - an outreach initiative with the Wikimedia language communities 4. MediaWiki Language Extension Bundle (MLEB) Release 5. Q/A - We shall be taking questions during the session. Questions can also be sent to runa at wikimedia dot org r...@wikimedia.org before the event and can be addressed during the office-hour. [1] http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Language_Engineering_team [2] http://blog.wikimedia.org/c/technology/features/internationalization-and-localization/ [3] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours/Office_hours_2013-03-13 * -- Language Engineering - Outreach and QA Coordinator Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia CH staff changes in 2013
Hello Thomas, Thanks for asking! In fact, it was as easy as said :-) Ilario has just never been involved in the recruitment process. In WMCH we believe that the conflict of interest is not solved with the resignation, but giving the whole process in the hands of a committee. The use of the committees are usual in Wikimedia (i.e the FDC) exactly to avoid this kind of problems. To make a long story short, the recruitment process was not a Board process. Chantal was involved from the start, the job descriptions have been realized by French-speakers (Chantal , me and Yann, a professional community manager). The interviews have been conducted by a committee of four people: Chantal, Yann, Patrick (Board member and active in both languages) and Manuel (our CIO). The board continued to work normally side by side with the selection committee without any interference or pressure. The same communication was split in different channels. The selection committee provided a report to the Board (less Ilario) and we just validated their conclusions. Please have in mind that the meaning of Board member is not the same in all countries. In Switzerland all Board members are elected for one year only, with no appointed member, and we try to split as much as possible executive duties and board duties. For some countries it can seem hard to avoid a COI, for others its easier. Cheers Charles ___ I use this email for mailing list only. Charles ANDRES, Chairman Wikimedia CH – Association for the advancement of free knowledge – www.wikimedia.ch Skype: charles.andres.wmch IRC://irc.freenode.net/wikimedia-ch Le 9 avr. 2013 à 20:55, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com a écrit : Charles, Thank you for sharing this information. Can you elaborate on how the conflict of interest of hiring a current board member was managed? You say Ilario wasn't involved in the hiring process, but appropriately managing such a conflict is more difficult than that. Did Ilario recuse from all discussions and decisions about the job from the early planning stages (ie. well before the job was advertised)? Did you seek professional advise on how to manage the conflict? In the UK, I think it is normal for a trustee to resign at least before they apply for the job, ideally sooner. On 9 Apr 2013 18:08, Charles Andrès charles.andres.w...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, We have the pleasure to announce the hiring of 2 new employees and one long-term contractor in 2013. On the other hand, Chantal Ebongué, our Chief Administrative Officer, will leave her job at the end of July. The three hiring are: - Manuel Schneider, as Chief Information Officer and Event Manager, who has started on 1st January 2013 (so this announcement is long overdue !) - Muriel Staub, as German-speaking Community manager, who will start on 1st May 2013 - Ilario Valdelli, Italian-speaking Community and GLAM manager, who will start on 1st may 2013. Muriel Staub will be our new German-speaking Community manager a 50% position. Muriel is preparing a Master in Management, Organization Studies and Cultural Theory at the University of Sankt Gallen. The subject of her Master Thesis is How does the use of Wikipedia affect the production and sourcing of knowledge at Swiss Universities. She has a strong experience as community manager for Apple, as well as having managed academic events as a personal assistant of the Chancellor and Vice President of the Leuphana University in Lüneburg, Germany. Ilario Valdelli is hired as our Italian-speaking Community and GLAM manager, also a 50% position. Ilario has a Master in Arts and worked for many years in the IT field. He is a well-known member of the Wikimedia community; he is founding member of Wikimedia CH as well as a current Board member (he was of course not involved in the hiring process, and will not remain on the board when his new job starts). He knows very well the Ticinese community and has already developed strong partnerships with GLAMs in this area. The Community managers will work actively with the German or Italian-speaking community to support them in accomplishing projects and get in touch with Wikimedia entities and officials. They help the community by gathering requests and ideas, communicating them to all relevant parties and translating information wherever needed. This includes support to bring formal requests and motions to WMCH by helping to prepare them, translate them and present them to the Board. It's their responsibility to make sure the community voices are heard inside the association and that activities and communications of Wikimedia movement entities are also replicated into the communities. As a GLAM Manager, Ilario will continue to contact GLAMs in Ticino and create various partnerships aiming to develop GLAM collaborations in Switzerland. Manuel Schneider, another well-known member of
Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMIL new Executive Director
Congrats and Welcome!! ___ I use this email for mailing list only. Charles ANDRES, Chairman Wikimedia CH – Association for the advancement of free knowledge – www.wikimedia.ch Skype: charles.andres.wmch IRC://irc.freenode.net/wikimedia-ch Le 9 avr. 2013 à 21:58, Itzik Edri it...@infra.co.il a écrit : Hi, After four months After 6 years without employees, and 4 months of the recruitment process (collecting resumes and interviews) I happy to announce that last month WMIL hired Executive Director to support the increase in WMIL's activities, projects, volunteers and professionalization.. Meet Dorit Shafir Dyamant: Over the last decade she mainly worked at NGO's in a variety of roles: from marketing through projects management and producing conferences. She have MA degree in nonprofit management from the Hebrew University in Jerusalem and B.A in literature and comparative philosophy from University of Haifa. As a student at the Hebrew University, she founded and produced for 6 years the project Words and poets' - an open evenings meetings for young poets. She married to Itay, and mother to Marom and Shalev. And I quote her, I love to read three books at the same time, I write primarily for myself all my life, and I fervently supports positive thinking and action based sharing and cross-fertilization. She will attend the ChapConf in Milan next week and I encourage her colleagues (CEO/ED and any chapters representatives or WMF's staff) to meet her, share tips and welcome her to our Wikimedia family! Dorit email is do...@wikimedia.org.il and she already been subscribed to all the relevant mailing lists. I will use this opportunity also to share our new website (we just launched it today) - we still have lot of bugs to fix and text improvement, but as most of you can't understand Hebrew, it will not really change a lot for you :) (We will launch the English version in the next few weeks): http://www.wikimedia.org.il Regards, Itzik Edri WMIL Chairman ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMIL new Executive Director
Bienvenue/Wilkommen Dorit! I am looking forward to meeting you in Milan. Delphine On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 9:58 PM, Itzik Edri it...@infra.co.il wrote: Hi, After four months After 6 years without employees, and 4 months of the recruitment process (collecting resumes and interviews) I happy to announce that last month WMIL hired Executive Director to support the increase in WMIL's activities, projects, volunteers and professionalization.. Meet Dorit Shafir Dyamant: Over the last decade she mainly worked at NGO's in a variety of roles: from marketing through projects management and producing conferences. She have MA degree in nonprofit management from the Hebrew University in Jerusalem and B.A in literature and comparative philosophy from University of Haifa. As a student at the Hebrew University, she founded and produced for 6 years the project Words and poets' - an open evenings meetings for young poets. She married to Itay, and mother to Marom and Shalev. And I quote her, I love to read three books at the same time, I write primarily for myself all my life, and I fervently supports positive thinking and action based sharing and cross-fertilization. She will attend the ChapConf in Milan next week and I encourage her colleagues (CEO/ED and any chapters representatives or WMF's staff) to meet her, share tips and welcome her to our Wikimedia family! Dorit email is do...@wikimedia.org.il and she already been subscribed to all the relevant mailing lists. I will use this opportunity also to share our new website (we just launched it today) - we still have lot of bugs to fix and text improvement, but as most of you can't understand Hebrew, it will not really change a lot for you :) (We will launch the English version in the next few weeks): http://www.wikimedia.org.il Regards, Itzik Edri WMIL Chairman ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- @notafish NB. This gmail address is used for mailing lists. Personal emails will get lost. Intercultural musings: Ceci n'est pas une endive - http://blog.notanendive.org Photos with simple eyes: notaphoto - http://photo.notafish.org ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMIL new Executive Director
Congratulations and welcome from the UK! Stevie On 10 April 2013 10:23, Delphine Ménard notafi...@gmail.com wrote: Bienvenue/Wilkommen Dorit! I am looking forward to meeting you in Milan. Delphine On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 9:58 PM, Itzik Edri it...@infra.co.il wrote: Hi, After four months After 6 years without employees, and 4 months of the recruitment process (collecting resumes and interviews) I happy to announce that last month WMIL hired Executive Director to support the increase in WMIL's activities, projects, volunteers and professionalization.. Meet Dorit Shafir Dyamant: Over the last decade she mainly worked at NGO's in a variety of roles: from marketing through projects management and producing conferences. She have MA degree in nonprofit management from the Hebrew University in Jerusalem and B.A in literature and comparative philosophy from University of Haifa. As a student at the Hebrew University, she founded and produced for 6 years the project Words and poets' - an open evenings meetings for young poets. She married to Itay, and mother to Marom and Shalev. And I quote her, I love to read three books at the same time, I write primarily for myself all my life, and I fervently supports positive thinking and action based sharing and cross-fertilization. She will attend the ChapConf in Milan next week and I encourage her colleagues (CEO/ED and any chapters representatives or WMF's staff) to meet her, share tips and welcome her to our Wikimedia family! Dorit email is do...@wikimedia.org.il and she already been subscribed to all the relevant mailing lists. I will use this opportunity also to share our new website (we just launched it today) - we still have lot of bugs to fix and text improvement, but as most of you can't understand Hebrew, it will not really change a lot for you :) (We will launch the English version in the next few weeks): http://www.wikimedia.org.il Regards, Itzik Edri WMIL Chairman ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- @notafish NB. This gmail address is used for mailing lists. Personal emails will get lost. Intercultural musings: Ceci n'est pas une endive - http://blog.notanendive.org Photos with simple eyes: notaphoto - http://photo.notafish.org ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- Stevie Benton Communications Organiser Wikimedia UK +44 (0) 20 7065 0993 / +44 (0) 7803 505 173 @StevieBenton Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia CH staff changes in 2013
On 10 April 2013 08:10, Charles Andrès charles.andres.w...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Thomas, Thanks for asking! In fact, it was as easy as said :-) Ilario has just never been involved in the recruitment process. In WMCH we believe that the conflict of interest is not solved with the resignation, but giving the whole process in the hands of a committee. Thank you for clarifying, but it really isn't that easy... Did you seek professional advice from either a charity lawyer or a charity governance expert? I don't know how these things work in Switzerland, but the relevant guidance from the UK Charity Commission can be found here: http://www.charitycommission.gov.uk/Charity_requirements_guidance/Charity_governance/Good_governance/conflicts.aspx#8a In the case of a trustee also being employed in a separate post within the charity, or a trustee being paid for a service provided to the charity, the conflict of interest may result in a liability to repay salary or other related benefits. It should not be assumed that such conflict can be overcome merely by the person concerned resigning as a trustee, either before or after taking up the post. The only instance where authority may not be needed is where, practically, the trustees can show that there is no conflict of interest. In our view, this is confined to the fairly narrow circumstance where the trustee concerned: * has had no significant involvement with the trustees’ decision to create or retain the post, or with any material aspect of the recruitment process * where that person resigns as a trustee in order to apply for the employed post in advance of a fair and open competition for it All other circumstances require an express authority. Authority in this context means either an express authority in the governing documents of the charity, a court order or permission from the Charity Commission. Under UK guidance, the approach you took would not be at all acceptable. This is a very serious matter. A charity paying a trustee (other than to reimburse actual expenses incurred) is probably the biggest conflict of interest you can get. It needs to be handled extremely carefully. Can you elaborate on how the decision to create the post was carried out (presumably it was part of your annual planning process)? Was Ilario involved in that? ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposal to use the internal wiki more
On 4/8/13 7:18 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote: On 4 April 2013 13:16, Florence Devouard anthe...@yahoo.com wrote: Incidently... given that most people would not be willing to publicly post their phone number and possibly other personal information... and that a wiki is actually not necessarily the best place to do such a thing, has it ever been considered to set up something dedicated to actually host contact information ? Why do we need to share individual phone numbers? I'm no longer on a chapter board, but when I was I don't think I would have appreciated random people I don't know from other chapters phoning me unexpectedly. I'd much rather they either called the main chapter phone number (which is available publicly) and left me a message or emailed me (using the Email this user function on the chapter wiki) and asked when would be a good time to call and what number they should call me on. As with most volunteers, I have to fit my voluntary work around the rest of my life, so phone calls aren't a good way to initiate a conversation. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l I understand your position Thomas. But favorite mode of communication is the individual choice of each of us. We may share or not share our phone number. We have the choice. Anyone can also add a note to say he prefers not to be contacted by phone unless really necessary, or not at certain hours or certain days. Why would you impose to others your own dislike ? Not every chapter has a main phone number (often, it is the president personal phone number). Why would the president becomes a human answering machine for others ? Last, I have shared my phone number with others quite liberally. I have no memory of any abuse from fellow chapter members. When they do use the phone, it is either because it is mega super urgent, or because the topic can not be discussed by email or because the internet connexion is not working. Flo ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia CH staff changes in 2013
Personal answer... You are giving examples and references not compatible with this case. For instance you give a link of paragraph entitled payment of a trustee, but I have not received any payment and I am still a volunteer. You refer to this specific case: In the case of a trustee *also being employed* in a separate post within the charity, or *a trustee being paid for a service provided* to the charity, the conflict of interest may result in a liability to repay salary or other related benefits, but *I am not employed yet and I received no payments for my service. *It has been unclear that Wikimedia CH will have the General Assembly the 27th April and in that date the board will change. I will start to work from 1st May. As per Swiss bylaws I have been a board member and I did it as volunteer. I suppose that you have misunderstood Please be careful of speaking about COI and please do it using the right examples. Regards On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 1:13 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.comwrote: On 10 April 2013 08:10, Charles Andrès charles.andres.w...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Thomas, Thanks for asking! In fact, it was as easy as said :-) Ilario has just never been involved in the recruitment process. In WMCH we believe that the conflict of interest is not solved with the resignation, but giving the whole process in the hands of a committee. Thank you for clarifying, but it really isn't that easy... Did you seek professional advice from either a charity lawyer or a charity governance expert? I don't know how these things work in Switzerland, but the relevant guidance from the UK Charity Commission can be found here: http://www.charitycommission.gov.uk/Charity_requirements_guidance/Charity_governance/Good_governance/conflicts.aspx#8a In the case of a trustee also being employed in a separate post within the charity, or a trustee being paid for a service provided to the charity, the conflict of interest may result in a liability to repay salary or other related benefits. It should not be assumed that such conflict can be overcome merely by the person concerned resigning as a trustee, either before or after taking up the post. The only instance where authority may not be needed is where, practically, the trustees can show that there is no conflict of interest. In our view, this is confined to the fairly narrow circumstance where the trustee concerned: * has had no significant involvement with the trustees’ decision to create or retain the post, or with any material aspect of the recruitment process * where that person resigns as a trustee in order to apply for the employed post in advance of a fair and open competition for it All other circumstances require an express authority. Authority in this context means either an express authority in the governing documents of the charity, a court order or permission from the Charity Commission. Under UK guidance, the approach you took would not be at all acceptable. This is a very serious matter. A charity paying a trustee (other than to reimburse actual expenses incurred) is probably the biggest conflict of interest you can get. It needs to be handled extremely carefully. Can you elaborate on how the decision to create the post was carried out (presumably it was part of your annual planning process)? Was Ilario involved in that? ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- Ilario Valdelli Wikimedia CH Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Association pour l’avancement des connaissances libre Associazione per il sostegno alla conoscenza libera Switzerland - 8008 Zürich Tel: +41764821371 http://www.wikimedia.ch ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposal to use the internal wiki more
Mike - fine points. On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 6:34 AM, Michael Peel michael.p...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: There is information within the Wikimedia movement that can't be shared publicly. # Agreements, particularly those with global impact, and/or where they affect more than one Wikimedia organisation. Should be public where possible; some may need to be private for a time. There's also a lot of experience now with existing agreements that could be reused when new agreements are being written, e.g. for Wikimedians in Residences. Sadly, not all of these can be made publicly available (or at least, they haven't been to date). I think many can, actually. It just hasn't happened yet; requires asking the right people for each agreement. # Press releases, prior to release Yes. # Domain names. There is a list of these on internal already Yes. # Contact information for the various organisations. Can be public. Some personal #s can be privat.e # Notices of sensitive activities. E.g. if there's an upcoming risk of law suits, infrastructure difficulties within organisations, Yes. If we carefully scope what's there, and review for material that doesn't need (or no longer needs) that secrecy, it can be useful. I think muc hof the material that is posted on smaller-group wikis (committees, individual chapters, c) could be shared among all chapters and movement entities on the internal wiki. If everyone finds private things they currently work on which could benefit from being shared on internal, it will find life and purpose. Worth a discussion among people who use other private wikis. I know I would like to use *fewer* private wikis, not more. [and right now I only use the Board wiki. But some of that material would be ok on internal, and some of it - including the drafting of many of our resolutions - would be fine to do in public on meta] Florence writes: has it ever been considered to set up something dedicated to actually host contact information ? A wiki table works, and is simple, for small groups. A more structured solution could work for our entire larger social network... we already use CiviCRM heavily in other ways. Sam. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia CH staff changes in 2013
Read what I quoted more carefully, please. It specifically says that leaving the board before taking up the position isn't enough. On 10 April 2013 14:23, Ilario Valdelli valde...@gmail.com wrote: Personal answer... You are giving examples and references not compatible with this case. For instance you give a link of paragraph entitled payment of a trustee, but I have not received any payment and I am still a volunteer. You refer to this specific case: In the case of a trustee *also being employed* in a separate post within the charity, or *a trustee being paid for a service provided* to the charity, the conflict of interest may result in a liability to repay salary or other related benefits, but *I am not employed yet and I received no payments for my service. *It has been unclear that Wikimedia CH will have the General Assembly the 27th April and in that date the board will change. I will start to work from 1st May. As per Swiss bylaws I have been a board member and I did it as volunteer. I suppose that you have misunderstood Please be careful of speaking about COI and please do it using the right examples. Regards On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 1:13 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.comwrote: On 10 April 2013 08:10, Charles Andrès charles.andres.w...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Thomas, Thanks for asking! In fact, it was as easy as said :-) Ilario has just never been involved in the recruitment process. In WMCH we believe that the conflict of interest is not solved with the resignation, but giving the whole process in the hands of a committee. Thank you for clarifying, but it really isn't that easy... Did you seek professional advice from either a charity lawyer or a charity governance expert? I don't know how these things work in Switzerland, but the relevant guidance from the UK Charity Commission can be found here: http://www.charitycommission.gov.uk/Charity_requirements_guidance/Charity_governance/Good_governance/conflicts.aspx#8a In the case of a trustee also being employed in a separate post within the charity, or a trustee being paid for a service provided to the charity, the conflict of interest may result in a liability to repay salary or other related benefits. It should not be assumed that such conflict can be overcome merely by the person concerned resigning as a trustee, either before or after taking up the post. The only instance where authority may not be needed is where, practically, the trustees can show that there is no conflict of interest. In our view, this is confined to the fairly narrow circumstance where the trustee concerned: * has had no significant involvement with the trustees’ decision to create or retain the post, or with any material aspect of the recruitment process * where that person resigns as a trustee in order to apply for the employed post in advance of a fair and open competition for it All other circumstances require an express authority. Authority in this context means either an express authority in the governing documents of the charity, a court order or permission from the Charity Commission. Under UK guidance, the approach you took would not be at all acceptable. This is a very serious matter. A charity paying a trustee (other than to reimburse actual expenses incurred) is probably the biggest conflict of interest you can get. It needs to be handled extremely carefully. Can you elaborate on how the decision to create the post was carried out (presumably it was part of your annual planning process)? Was Ilario involved in that? ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- Ilario Valdelli Wikimedia CH Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Association pour l’avancement des connaissances libre Associazione per il sostegno alla conoscenza libera Switzerland - 8008 Zürich Tel: +41764821371 http://www.wikimedia.ch ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposal to use the internal wiki more
On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 9:16 AM, Florence Devouard anthe...@yahoo.comwrote: Incidently... given that most people would not be willing to publicly post their phone number and possibly other personal information... and that a wiki is actually not necessarily the best place to do such a thing, has it ever been considered to set up something dedicated to actually host contact information ? https://contacts.wikimedia.org/ Voilà. Interesting that you don't know. -- Everton Zanella Alvarenga (also Tom) A life spent making mistakes is not only more honorable, but more useful than a life spent doing nothing. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposal to use the internal wiki more
Hi Phoebe and all, I am not say if saying this is wrong or brakes the confidentiality contract I've signed as a contractor. My apologies if it is wrong, but I think it is not. I am sorry to say there are some documents of projects I have been working on that I believe could be done directly on meta or some other public wiki. There are some cases, yes, some more elaborated document should be done to be released in public, but I don't think it is always the case. I believe we are wasting resources and energy in some cases not using the community intelligence and knowledge, even having very high qualified professionals working on this documents, as it is the case I have seen so far. Closed mailing lists, closed wikis, closed working groups, closed meetings... all this doesn't make me feel comfortable, to be honest. I don't want create a pandemonium here. My opinion here is just to share one thing I've felt that can diminish the power of crowdsourcing we are all used to and I believe we have to think ways to improve that. Wikimediaworld it too complex, there is too much information, projects and opinions going on and it is really difficult to organize all that. For instance, there is this https://collab.wikimedia.org What is this for?! I have receive (maybe?) one e-mail about this wiki and once I've seen a lot of crucial and important answers for the Brazil program were there. I cannot understand why it is not public. Really. Just to you have an idea, I've asked in December to have this collab (Collab of collaboration?) wiki to be on the main page of office wiki, but no answer so far. The organization has grown too fast and maybe it is time to rethink our best practices and how we operate, analysing everything we are using, creating a kind of guide, mainly for those professionals that will arrive? If I am not wrong, how can we do that? I love this from another group Running through all of our activities is a strong emphasis on *decentralized collaboration*. In particular, a primary aim is to help others develop open material as well as creating it ourselves. We believe that the future lies in collaboration between a multitude of different groups and that *no one group or organisation can, or should try to, “do it all*”. It is when we work together that we are the strongest. and I am not saying it is easy to implement it. But we have to be self critical on how to achieve this, for those who agree it is a better way to work. Tom On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 5:39 PM, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com wrote: You're being snarky, but I am going to take this as a good-faith question I have access to the office wiki, left-over from being a board member, though I do not edit there and have only accessed it a couple of times over the years. I think I can safely say without violating confidentiality that it is mainly used as a tool to run a discrete, physical, boring office. It is where you will find things like staff phone numbers, info on the employee health plans, how to send to the office printers, and how to submit an expense report. As on internal, there's also lots of outdated stuff, like old notes from 2008 staff meetings; there are scratchpad idea pages that probably could be elsewhere, and there are some pages about department functions and project drafts that I'm sure no one would mind being on meta, but much of the interesting stuff is public (the annual plan, the communications calendar), and as far as I can see with a quick scan there are not large-scale discussions happening there. So, back to the start of the thread: using a wiki effectively does seem like a scoping question, yes, and I think internal (and any other internal/private wiki) would benefit from specific scoping like Mike proposes; his suggestions seem reasonable to me. I think I can also say without violating confidentiality that almost all of the mail to the internal list in the last few months has not been discussion focused, but rather has been notices of chapter board elections, meetings and reports, and I would love to see all that traffic be public (even if it's on a separate list so not everyone has to get the notices if they're not interested) -- there's nothing inherently confidential about it, and it would be nice for that info to be easily findable. -- phoebe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- Everton Zanella Alvarenga (also Tom) A life spent making mistakes is not only more honorable, but more useful than a life spent doing nothing. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia CH staff changes in 2013
The need for community/project managers was identified by Chantal, our director, who prepared the proposal herself (in collaboration with me) Then there was a time when anyone could propose projects for 2013 and/or comment on the proposed projects; at this point, it would make no difference if someone making a comment was a board member or an outsider. In any case, Ilario did not participate in any discussion about the new positions -- neither pushing for or against them. The board later approved the final budget proposal without any objection (and without discussing any particular detail about these position), so that Ilario could not have influenced the positions at this step either. When the job description prepared by Chantal, Yann and Myself was ready to be published, Ilario told us that he may be interested in applying for the italian position. This allowed us to build the recruitment committee without including Ilario (as the main Italian-speaking member of the board, he would indeed have been part of this committee otherwise). As mentioned before, Ilario was not involved at all with the hiring process. The board (minus Ilario) held a phone meeting in order to discuss the recommandations of the hiring committee, which it approved. In order to formally register the decision and Ilario's absention, a voting page was open on our board wiki, which saw an approval by 5 board members and one abstention because of a conflict of interest. We haven't use donors money to have professional advice from either a charity lawyer or a charity governance expert, because it wasn't necessary. All in all, the only influence that Ilario had in the process was when he submitted his application. According to the UK Charity Commission we are in the case where Ilario has had no significant involvement with the trustees’ decision to create or retain the post, or with any material aspect of the recruitment process Charles ___ I use this email for mailing list only. Charles ANDRES, Chairman Wikimedia CH – Association for the advancement of free knowledge – www.wikimedia.ch Skype: charles.andres.wmch IRC://irc.freenode.net/wikimedia-ch Le 10 avr. 2013 à 13:13, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com a écrit : On 10 April 2013 08:10, Charles Andrès charles.andres.w...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Thomas, Thanks for asking! In fact, it was as easy as said :-) Ilario has just never been involved in the recruitment process. In WMCH we believe that the conflict of interest is not solved with the resignation, but giving the whole process in the hands of a committee. Thank you for clarifying, but it really isn't that easy... Did you seek professional advice from either a charity lawyer or a charity governance expert? I don't know how these things work in Switzerland, but the relevant guidance from the UK Charity Commission can be found here: http://www.charitycommission.gov.uk/Charity_requirements_guidance/Charity_governance/Good_governance/conflicts.aspx#8a In the case of a trustee also being employed in a separate post within the charity, or a trustee being paid for a service provided to the charity, the conflict of interest may result in a liability to repay salary or other related benefits. It should not be assumed that such conflict can be overcome merely by the person concerned resigning as a trustee, either before or after taking up the post. The only instance where authority may not be needed is where, practically, the trustees can show that there is no conflict of interest. In our view, this is confined to the fairly narrow circumstance where the trustee concerned: * has had no significant involvement with the trustees’ decision to create or retain the post, or with any material aspect of the recruitment process * where that person resigns as a trustee in order to apply for the employed post in advance of a fair and open competition for it All other circumstances require an express authority. Authority in this context means either an express authority in the governing documents of the charity, a court order or permission from the Charity Commission. Under UK guidance, the approach you took would not be at all acceptable. This is a very serious matter. A charity paying a trustee (other than to reimburse actual expenses incurred) is probably the biggest conflict of interest you can get. It needs to be handled extremely carefully. Can you elaborate on how the decision to create the post was carried out (presumably it was part of your annual planning process)? Was Ilario involved in that? ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia CH staff changes in 2013
This just to say that it's not so direct to transfer some suggestions to other countries. Thomas Dalton, 10/04/2013 13:13: [...] Authority in this context means either an express authority in the governing documents of the charity, a court order or permission from the Charity Commission. [...] For instance, such authority doesn't exist in Italy, so it's easy to see that this part wouldn't apply, unless of course the bylaws say something in contrary. Thomas Dalton, 10/04/2013 16:32: Read what I quoted more carefully, please. It specifically says that leaving the board before taking up the position isn't enough. You've already been answered you that it's not the only thing they did, and you interpret your own quoted text in a very personal way if you forget that it says the purpose is a fair and open competition and you focus solely on the conjunction in advance of instead of commenting whether the actual purpose was pursued correctly. Nemo ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia CH staff changes in 2013
Hi everyone, Though UK Charity Commission recommendations can't apply everywhere, from what I can see, they do provide interesting ideas. I believe here the discussion is not is there a COI but what was done to prevent the perception of a COI. WMFr did hire former board members, every time said board members were not part of the board discussions and decisions about. That being said, with the time, if that situation would happen now we would do things differently I think. In order to lower the perception of a potential COI (though I have no idea how we'd do it, having the process overseen by an independant third body could be an idea :)) Best, -- Christophe On 10 April 2013 17:55, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote: This just to say that it's not so direct to transfer some suggestions to other countries. Thomas Dalton, 10/04/2013 13:13: [...] Authority in this context means either an express authority in the governing documents of the charity, a court order or permission from the Charity Commission. [...] For instance, such authority doesn't exist in Italy, so it's easy to see that this part wouldn't apply, unless of course the bylaws say something in contrary. Thomas Dalton, 10/04/2013 16:32: Read what I quoted more carefully, please. It specifically says that leaving the board before taking up the position isn't enough. You've already been answered you that it's not the only thing they did, and you interpret your own quoted text in a very personal way if you forget that it says the purpose is a fair and open competition and you focus solely on the conjunction in advance of instead of commenting whether the actual purpose was pursued correctly. Nemo ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia CH staff changes in 2013
On 10 April 2013 16:13, Charles Andrès charles.andres.w...@gmail.com wrote: We haven't use donors money to have professional advice from either a charity lawyer or a charity governance expert, because it wasn't necessary. When dealing with a situation that can give rise to a serious conflict of interest (which hiring a trustee always will be) it is always a good use of money to get professional advice. According to the UK Charity Commission we are in the case where Ilario has had no significant involvement with the trustees’ decision to create or retain the post, or with any material aspect of the recruitment process It isn't written very clearly, but from context I am confident that those bullet points are intended to be an and not an or. Nevertheless, voting on the plan which included creating these posts is significant involvement. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposal to use the internal wiki more
From my perspective: In my role as storyteller I conduct many personal interviews with Wikimedia volunteers, donors and staff. I have several pages of interviews and photos of volunteers and donors(!) that have been gracious enough to share their story with me and the WMF. Each person who has been interviewed as part of my role has signed a legal release to 'share their story'. I keep the raw, unpolished interviews on pages on the password protected: https://office.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Stories knowing that they are available only to myself and staff at the WMF. I use that raw material to release polished works like this: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Thank_You_All . During the course of an interview, people sometimes say things that when reviewed later, they wish they hadn't. Out of respect and decency for those interviewed, I want each person alerted every time WMF plans to use their story, should that person not want that information released. I won't 'hide' behind a legal waiver and do whatever when someone shares a story with the WMF. I also need to be able to share the interviews with others at WMF because they may have instances when they need to illustrate something with a personal story (that is my job) and it can be more convenient for them to review these stories on an organized page than to have to ask me to be a librarian for them and suggest a story. Privacy is very important, and I have to take it seriously. I could remove all the interviews from the office wiki and keep them offline, but I would not feel comfortable making the material public without passing it by all those interviewed first, which would take a lot of time to do, since I'm nearing almost 2 years of interviews. All this said, I am all in favor of making as much content as possible on https://collab.wikimedia.org/ and https://office.wikimedia.org/ public. Victor On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 8:07 AM, Everton Zanella Alvarenga t...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi Phoebe and all, I am not say if saying this is wrong or brakes the confidentiality contract I've signed as a contractor. My apologies if it is wrong, but I think it is not. I am sorry to say there are some documents of projects I have been working on that I believe could be done directly on meta or some other public wiki. There are some cases, yes, some more elaborated document should be done to be released in public, but I don't think it is always the case. I believe we are wasting resources and energy in some cases not using the community intelligence and knowledge, even having very high qualified professionals working on this documents, as it is the case I have seen so far. Closed mailing lists, closed wikis, closed working groups, closed meetings... all this doesn't make me feel comfortable, to be honest. I don't want create a pandemonium here. My opinion here is just to share one thing I've felt that can diminish the power of crowdsourcing we are all used to and I believe we have to think ways to improve that. Wikimediaworld it too complex, there is too much information, projects and opinions going on and it is really difficult to organize all that. For instance, there is this https://collab.wikimedia.org What is this for?! I have receive (maybe?) one e-mail about this wiki and once I've seen a lot of crucial and important answers for the Brazil program were there. I cannot understand why it is not public. Really. Just to you have an idea, I've asked in December to have this collab (Collab of collaboration?) wiki to be on the main page of office wiki, but no answer so far. The organization has grown too fast and maybe it is time to rethink our best practices and how we operate, analysing everything we are using, creating a kind of guide, mainly for those professionals that will arrive? If I am not wrong, how can we do that? I love this from another group Running through all of our activities is a strong emphasis on *decentralized collaboration*. In particular, a primary aim is to help others develop open material as well as creating it ourselves. We believe that the future lies in collaboration between a multitude of different groups and that *no one group or organisation can, or should try to, “do it all*”. It is when we work together that we are the strongest. and I am not saying it is easy to implement it. But we have to be self critical on how to achieve this, for those who agree it is a better way to work. Tom On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 5:39 PM, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com wrote: You're being snarky, but I am going to take this as a good-faith question I have access to the office wiki, left-over from being a board member, though I do not edit there and have only accessed it a couple of times over the years. I think I can safely say without violating confidentiality that it is mainly used as a tool to run a discrete, physical, boring office. It is where you will find
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposal to use the internal wiki more
Victor Grigas, 10/04/2013 19:22: I keep the raw, unpolished interviews on pages on the password protected: https://office.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Stories knowing that they are available only to myself and staff at the WMF. What about a limited set of trusted wikimedians? I use that raw material to release polished works like this: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Thank_You_All . During the course of an interview, people sometimes say things that when reviewed later, they wish they hadn't. Out of respect and decency for those interviewed, [...] Privacy is very important, and I have to take it seriously. [...] All very right, just highlighting two passages to complement the question above: respect and decency are not the same as privacy; would this material be something that requires everyone with access to it signing a NDA, or being a PII-handling designated officer (or whatever the English name for the thing under EU laws)? Nemo ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
[Wikimedia-l] Distributed Proofreaders hits 25, 000 books scanned and proofread
This is pretty awesome. http://www.pgdp.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=53404 - d. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
[Wikimedia-l] Chapters Dialogue
Dear fellow Wikimedians, Wikimedia Deutschland would like to initiate – together with interested parties – a project called Chapters Dialogue. This project aims at a structured assessment of chapters needs combined with a stakeholder survey of other parties involved. The Chapters Dialogue is designed to help facilitate and support the chapters in thinking about what they want to do. In addition to this, we do not only want to talk to the chapters, but also consult with their key stakeholders and partners (Wikimedia Foundation, the Affiliations committee and the project communities) to ask for their opinion, their expectations and hopes. Those parties should be involved into the process from the start. I have recently created a Meta page and look forward to your comments, ideas, questions and feedback: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Chapters_Dialogue Please note that his is still a draft! I am collecting feedback and ideas at the moment. I also look forward to discussing the project in Milan next week and would like to kick things off after the conference. Thanks in advance for your input, besr regards from Berlin Nicole -- Nicole Ebber International Affairs Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin Tel. +49 30 219158 26-0 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Chapters Dialogue
Hi Nicole, How does this project relate to the project Seb was running a couple of years ago that sounded very similar? How does this project relate to the work of the WCA? I also notice that the wiki page says the contractors are supposed to attend the Milan meeting - it's presumably too late for that now... On 10 April 2013 19:35, Nicole Ebber nicole.eb...@wikimedia.de wrote: Dear fellow Wikimedians, Wikimedia Deutschland would like to initiate – together with interested parties – a project called Chapters Dialogue. This project aims at a structured assessment of chapters needs combined with a stakeholder survey of other parties involved. The Chapters Dialogue is designed to help facilitate and support the chapters in thinking about what they want to do. In addition to this, we do not only want to talk to the chapters, but also consult with their key stakeholders and partners (Wikimedia Foundation, the Affiliations committee and the project communities) to ask for their opinion, their expectations and hopes. Those parties should be involved into the process from the start. I have recently created a Meta page and look forward to your comments, ideas, questions and feedback: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Chapters_Dialogue Please note that his is still a draft! I am collecting feedback and ideas at the moment. I also look forward to discussing the project in Milan next week and would like to kick things off after the conference. Thanks in advance for your input, besr regards from Berlin Nicole -- Nicole Ebber International Affairs Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin Tel. +49 30 219158 26-0 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposal to use the internal wiki more
On 10 April 2013 18:48, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote: Victor Grigas, 10/04/2013 19:22: I keep the raw, unpolished interviews on pages on the password protected: https://office.wikimedia.org/**wiki/Wikipedia_Storieshttps://office.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Storiesknowing that they are available only to myself and staff at the WMF. What about a limited set of trusted wikimedians? Trusted to know the real names and backgrounds of other editors? There should never be a situation where volunteers are read into that kind of thing in a post-hoc fashion. -- Oliver Keyes Community Liaison, Product Development Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposal to use the internal wiki more
Oliver Keyes, 10/04/2013 22:25: On 10 April 2013 18:48, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: Victor Grigas, 10/04/2013 19:22: I keep the raw, unpolished interviews on pages on the password protected: https://office.wikimedia.org/**wiki/Wikipedia_Storieshttps://office.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Storiesknowing that they are available only to myself and staff at the WMF. What about a limited set of trusted wikimedians? Trusted to know the real names and backgrounds of other editors? There should never be a situation where volunteers are read into that kind of thing in a post-hoc fashion. Are you speaking of yourself here? :) Nemo ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposal to use the internal wiki more
Are you speaking of yourself here? :) As opposed to, speaking as a staffer? Well, I work for Product Development. So the chances of me giving binding policy statements on privacy issues are slim to none :). Speaking personally: I can't think of a single good reason why Victor's stuff should be released. Speaking as a staffer: I'd rather everyone and their pet dog didn't have my phone number, even if we saw Everyone's passport at one point :). There's definitely stuff on officewiki that should be more public (speaking just for my own work, there's a lot of strategic planning there) but I'd argue the docs available on officewiki don't accuratey represent the public availability *of* those docs; we can see that docX exists on officewiki, and is to do with something the communities care about, but that doesn't mean a concrete form of docX wasn't then /released/ to the community for their perusal, consideration, comment and vote. An illustration here would be: I've got my engagement strategy for what became Page Curation on officewiki. It's a place where I can write and rewrite it, my bosses can check it for stupid, and if there *is* stupid we catch it before it causes problems. Someone looking at that in isolation would go this should totally be public! It's about engagement and deployment timetables,and we should be transparent about it. And we are transparent about it - because the document later became public, in an altered and finalised form. But the two aren't necessarily linked together, which makes this rather opaque. There are totally some docs on office-wiki that could do with more publicity. But there are far more that are private - fully private - for a good reason, and I'd imagine some of those that look ready for public release were, in fact, released. Apologies for the TL;DR rant :) -- Oliver Keyes Community Liaison, Product Development Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposal to use the internal wiki more
I don't know that anyone else really wants another example, but I'll offer a couple thoughts. On a personal level, I'm happy that my contact information is not public, but I'm also happy that the other staff members have access to it if they need to get in touch with me urgently. The primary benefit of a closed wiki that I see from my work perspective is for upcoming press launches with partners when we need to embargo the information prior to the release date. The most common example is Wikipedia Zero. We regularly prepare documents, like the QA that goes with the launch, on Office Wiki and then copy it to Foundation Wiki once the press release is public. We could just do it in Google Docs, but we do need to keep this information private until the launch (obviously, we wouldn't be able to manage the story if the press got to it before we wanted them to). Our PR work is often also part of the contract signed with the partner and is one of the primary values they see in the partnership, so they are usually quite concerned with keeping a tight lock on the info until the release date. There are also a number of password registrations to the various social media accounts we manage, the various admin keys for the press release distribution list and to the various lists like Wikimedia Announce-l that would also need to stay private in some capacity. Office Wiki proves useful for that, but theoretically there could be another arrangement, I'm sure. Of the other material that is in the Communications corner on Office Wiki, almost all of it is links to public wikis, so it doesn't do much more than provide an easy location for organizing the links. That could happen just as easily on Meta or elsewhere. -Matthew On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 2:07 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.comwrote: Oliver Keyes, 10/04/2013 22:43: Are you speaking of yourself here? :) As opposed to, speaking as a staffer? Well, I work for Product Development. So the chances of me giving binding policy statements on privacy issues are slim to none :). No: as opposed to, a staffer that is also not a very active editor. :) The part on personal identifying information is one I understand and that's why I asked about it, but I don't think it should be on officewiki either; the other part on editor background I didn't understand, and I think staffer or editor is the same for that. Speaking personally: I can't think of a single good reason why Victor's stuff should be released. [...] Neither I do. I only asked if they *require* the compartmentalisation that e.g. Tom described – otherwise they could as well happen in a slightly different context (like for instance use the internal wiki more, given that's the thread we're in). An illustration here would be: I've got my engagement strategy for what became Page Curation on officewiki. It's a place where I can write and rewrite it, my bosses can check it for stupid, and if there *is* stupid we catch it before it causes problems. This is fine. Way better than Google Docs shared with few people and then quickly lost! Someone looking at that in isolation would go this should totally be public! It's about engagement and deployment timetables,and we should be transparent about it. I really can't imagine who this naïve someone could be. :) And we are transparent about it - because the document later became public, in an altered and finalised form. But the two aren't necessarily linked together, which makes this rather opaque. There are totally some docs on office-wiki that could do with more publicity. But there are far more that are private - fully private - for a good reason, and I'd imagine some of those that look ready for public release were, in fact, released. Again, I'm not the one arguing for a bias towards putting information on public wikis for the sake of it, in this thread. ;-) I know that some things are always going to be private, and I also think that we're not a totalitarian state, so even we officially disallowed anything to be private then people would just hide better (e.g. documents on private gdocs rather than private wikis; or the good old local hard disk + private email). Nemo __**_ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.**org Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-lhttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- Matthew Roth Global Communications Manager Wikimedia Foundation +1.415.839.6885 ext 6635 www.wikimediafoundation.org *https://donate.wikimedia.org* ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Global Economic Map
There's a signature list for wikipedians to show support in the project: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_Economic_Map On 9 April 2013 12:35, Alex Peek alexpe...@gmail.com wrote: i have also posted my vision on talk page for 'economy of the united states, japan, china, germany, united kingdom' articles on Wikipedia. I also posted on the Project - Econ talk page On 9 April 2013 12:21, Alex Peek alexpe...@gmail.com wrote: I'm in the marketing stage of the project and looking for editors for this project. I have posted the project proposal to Krugman's blog and a few separate blogs on the Economist. Any advice on what I should next do to get the word out? On 8 April 2013 14:57, Mathieu Stumpf psychosl...@culture-libre.orgwrote: Le lundi 08 avril 2013 à 23:09 +0200, Jane Darnell a écrit : Mathieu, I just watched a Dutch documentary about this same issue last week. The main gist of the documentary is that the corporations avoid taxes in a structured way: they go to tax havens or take advantage of economic arrangements where the the first five years of residence are tax free in return for starting up a business. The countries offering the tax haven are hoping for sustainable local business, but instead, after 5 years the premises are deserted and offered tax free to the next corporation, so that a rotational system of multi-nationals is devised. The global economy has become not only a mobile one for individuals, but also for corporations. In order to be able to see such developments in an open economic map, much more underlying data needs to be plugged in to Wikipedia in terms of articles about global industrial localities, global industrial corporations, and then local economic industrial data. All of these things are very badly documented when it comes to developing countries, where much of this is happening. Today, Wikipedia is mainly written in (and about!) Western Europe and North America. Jane What I understood from the France Culture radio emission was even worst, because it said it was not exception of the system but the core of the modern financial system. It said that the tax haven countries can be tax havens only because they passed an agreement with other countries. In other word, the political will is to maintain this system. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l