[Wikimedia-l] Rules of engagement for companies in Swedish, Norwegian, Finnish, Danish?

2013-10-21 Thread David Richfield
Hi all,

When I'm not editing Wikimedia projects, I work for Mondelez
International, and our Social Media team has contacted me for advice
on responsible engagement with Wikipedia.  I know that different
language projects have different rules on whether company
representatives should:

* Edit pages directly or only ever edit talk pages
* Edit under their own names or under company names

What are the rules for the Nordic languages?

Thanks,

David

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Rules of engagement for companies in Swedish, Norwegian, Finnish, Danish?

2013-10-21 Thread Hans A. Rosbach
In no-wp we have a policy that usernames shall be for individuals and thus
typical company usernames are blocked and asked to request change of names.
These users then have no restrictions on which pages to edit. As long as we
don't demand identification of users, restrictions on edits would IMO be
futile anyway.

Hans A. Rosbach / User:Haros



On 21 October 2013 15:14, David Richfield davidrichfi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,

 When I'm not editing Wikimedia projects, I work for Mondelez
 International, and our Social Media team has contacted me for advice
 on responsible engagement with Wikipedia.  I know that different
 language projects have different rules on whether company
 representatives should:

 * Edit pages directly or only ever edit talk pages
 * Edit under their own names or under company names

 What are the rules for the Nordic languages?

 Thanks,

 David

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Rules of engagement for companies in Swedish, Norwegian, Finnish, Danish?

2013-10-21 Thread David Richfield
Thanks for the quick reply, Hans!  If our representatives would (for
example) translate an English company page into Norwegian, and then
explain the edits on the talk page, and identify their conflict of
interest on their user pages and also the article talk page, would you
expect that that would be seen as fair and transparent by the
Norwegian Wikipedia community?

On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Hans A. Rosbach
hans.a.rosb...@gmail.com wrote:
 In no-wp we have a policy that usernames shall be for individuals and thus
 typical company usernames are blocked and asked to request change of names.
 These users then have no restrictions on which pages to edit. As long as we
 don't demand identification of users, restrictions on edits would IMO be
 futile anyway.

 Hans A. Rosbach / User:Haros



 On 21 October 2013 15:14, David Richfield davidrichfi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,

 When I'm not editing Wikimedia projects, I work for Mondelez
 International, and our Social Media team has contacted me for advice
 on responsible engagement with Wikipedia.  I know that different
 language projects have different rules on whether company
 representatives should:

 * Edit pages directly or only ever edit talk pages
 * Edit under their own names or under company names

 What are the rules for the Nordic languages?

 Thanks,

 David

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[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Nederland report for September

2013-10-21 Thread Sandra Rientjes Wikimedia Nederland
The Wikimedia Nederland report for September is available:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_chapters/Reports/Wikimedia_Nederland/201309

It is also included as text in this message.


COMMUNITY: supporting and mobilising volunteers and editors

   -

   Our two-weekly Wiki-Saturdays remain successful: on a Wiki-Saturday the
   WMNL office is open for members of the community as a venue for meetings, a
   quiet place to work on projects or just to have a coffee and a chat with
   fellow Wikimedians. In September, the office was open twice, hosting
   volunteers and board members working on our annual conference, wiki loves
   monuments and the annual work plan 2014.


   -

   Preparations for the Wikimedia Nederland Conference (November 2,
   Utrecht) are in full swing. WMF chair of the Board Jan Bart de Vreede has
   agreed to give the keynote speech. See for conference programme:
   http://www.wikimediaconferentie.nl/


   -

   There was a Wikipedia Café in Amsterdam on September 6. Four community
   members attended.

WORK: content, collaboration and activity development

   -

   Wiki Loves Monuments. September is Wiki Loves
Monumentshttp://www.wikilovesmonuments.nl/month. There were
photo-safari’s (Wiki Takes) in Groningen, Nijmegen and
   The Hague. One of our volunteers arranged a special tour of Kasteel de Haar
   so that photographs could be taken inside the castle.


   -

   World War II. A group of active community members has decided to focus
   on World War II. We cooperated with the National Committee for the
   Commemoration of World War II earlier this year in a small pilot-project to
   gather photographs of war monuments for Wikimedia Commons. We are looking
   to expand this cooperation.


   -

   Fashion edit-a-thon Antwerpen. The MoMu fashion museum hosted an Europeana
   Fashion 
Edit-a-thonhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/nl:Wikipedia:GLAM/MoMu_Fashion_edit-a-thon_2013in
Antwerp. Around 25
   
participantshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/nl:Wikipedia:GLAM/MoMu_Fashion_edit-a-thon_2013/deelnemersworked
on
   
articleshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/nl:Wikipedia:GLAM/MoMu_Fashion_edit-a-thon_2013/Onderwerpsuggestiesand
a special tour through the museum was given.
   -

   Public Libraries. BiSC Utrecht http://www.biscutrecht.nl/, the service
   organisation for libraries in the province of Utrecht, and Wikimedia
   Nederland organised a workshop for libraries. The goal of the workshop was
   to generate ideas for cooperation. The workshop was inspired by the
earlier Wiki
   Loves Bieb http://www.wikilovesbieb.nl/ project.


   -

   25/9 Creative Commons Conference. Wikimedia Nederland attended the
   celebration of 10 years of Creative Commons in the Netherlands. The future
   of the licenses and their use was being discussed at the event.


   -

   ECNC. Volunteers of Wikimedia Nederland supported the ECNC photo
   competition http://www.ecnc.org/photo-competition/ by setting up
the upload
   
wizardhttps://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:UploadWizard%3Fcampaign%3DECNC-Beautiful_Europe_2013.
   One of the goals for Wikimedia Nederland to support this competition is to
   see if and how we can support initiatives by other organisations that lead
   to more content on commons and/or other Wikimedia projects.


   -

   Tropenmuseum. The
Tropenmuseumhttp://www.tropenmuseum.com/smartsite.shtml?ch=TMUid=5853is
looking for the fourth Dutch Wikipedian in Residence (job
   description in
Dutchhttps://nl.wikimedia.org/wiki/Vacature_Wikipedian-in-Residence_op_expeditie)
   for their project about
expeditionshttps://nl.wikimedia.org/wiki/De_grote_Wikipedia_Expeditie
   .

Money

   -

   WMNL submitted its application for FDC
fundinghttps://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/FDC_portal/Proposals/2013-2014_round1/Wikimedia_Nederland/Proposal_formin
time of the October 1 deadline. We are requesting € 356,068, a 20%
   increase on the 2013 FDC allocation.


GLOBAL: International collaboration

   -

   Board member international affairs Ziko van Dijk visited the
   Wikipedia-Stammtisch in Bochum (DE)
   -

   Wiki Loves Monuments International: WMNL is acting as fiscal sponsor to
   the Wiki Loves Monuments International team, taking care of accounting and
   payments.
   -

   Kira Kraemer (WMDE) visited the WMNL offices as part of the Chapters
   Dialogue programme. She interviewed representatives of board, community and
   staff.


ORGANISATION: board, management and support

   -

   The board met in Utrecht on September 5.


   -

   The Algemene Ledenvergadering (General Assembly) took place on September
   21 (the second in 2013). Main points on the agenda were the Annual Workplan
   and Budget 2014. Both were approved by the members.


Sandra Rientjes
Directeur/Executive Director Wikimedia Nederland

tel. (+31) (0)6  31786379

*Postadres*: * Bezoekadres:*
Postbus 167Mariaplaats 3
3500 AD  Utrecht  

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Rules of engagement for companies in Swedish, Norwegian, Finnish, Danish?

2013-10-21 Thread Hans A. Rosbach
I'm not sure. Someone who posts deficient article that they obviously have
a special relationship to, where the language in addition is deficient, may
easily be meet by a deletion request. The difficulty with promoting a
company in Wikipedia is the promotion part, not the identity of the author.
For a well sourced, well written, well structured article that takes a
neutral point of view about a clearly relevant subject, I cannot see that
the identity of the author should make much difference. That said,
obviously there may be someone who disagrees with me in this.

Hans


On 21 October 2013 16:07, David Richfield davidrichfi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks for the quick reply, Hans!  If our representatives would (for
 example) translate an English company page into Norwegian, and then
 explain the edits on the talk page, and identify their conflict of
 interest on their user pages and also the article talk page, would you
 expect that that would be seen as fair and transparent by the
 Norwegian Wikipedia community?

 On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Hans A. Rosbach
 hans.a.rosb...@gmail.com wrote:
  In no-wp we have a policy that usernames shall be for individuals and
 thus
  typical company usernames are blocked and asked to request change of
 names.
  These users then have no restrictions on which pages to edit. As long as
 we
  don't demand identification of users, restrictions on edits would IMO be
  futile anyway.
 
  Hans A. Rosbach / User:Haros
 
 
 
  On 21 October 2013 15:14, David Richfield davidrichfi...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Hi all,
 
  When I'm not editing Wikimedia projects, I work for Mondelez
  International, and our Social Media team has contacted me for advice
  on responsible engagement with Wikipedia.  I know that different
  language projects have different rules on whether company
  representatives should:
 
  * Edit pages directly or only ever edit talk pages
  * Edit under their own names or under company names
 
  What are the rules for the Nordic languages?
 
  Thanks,
 
  David
 
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[Wikimedia-l] Thank you for this update.

2013-10-21 Thread Amy Vossbrinck
HI Patricio:  Thank you very much for sending along this updated list of
your new authorities.  I have updated our internal list.  Will you please
send along the email addresses for these new officers.  You will remember
that this information is for internal use only.

Ivana Molena
Esteban Zarate
Juan Ignacio Iglesias
Alberto Robles
Malena Lorente
Leandro Kibisz

Thank you, Amy


On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 7:20 PM, Patricio Molina
patriciomol...@gmail.comwrote:

 Dear friends,

 Yesterday we had our Annual Assembly in Wikimedia Argentina, and it's my
 great pleasure to announce our new authorities for the next two years
 (2013-2015). The new Board is composed as follows:

 President: Galileo Vidoni
 Vicepresident: Ivana Lysholm
 Secretary: Patricio Molina
 Deputy Secretary: Ivana Molena
 Treasurer: Nicolás Giorgetti
 Deputy Treasurer: Mariano Pérez
 Board Member: Beatrice Murch
 Board Member: Esteban Zárate
 Board Member: Juan Ignacio Iglesias
 Deputy Board Member: Nahuel Kahles
 Deputy Board Member: Alberto Robles
 Statutory Auditor: Leandro Ferrari
 Statutory Auditor: Malena Lorente
 Statutory Auditor: Leandro Kibisz

 Sincerely,

 *Patricio Molina*
 Secretario
 A. C. Wikimedia Argentina
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Rules of engagement for companies in Swedish, Norwegian, Finnish, Danish?

2013-10-21 Thread Fred Bauder
 I'm not sure. Someone who posts deficient article that they obviously
 have
 a special relationship to, where the language in addition is deficient,
 may
 easily be meet by a deletion request. The difficulty with promoting a
 company in Wikipedia is the promotion part, not the identity of the
 author.
 For a well sourced, well written, well structured article that takes a
 neutral point of view about a clearly relevant subject, I cannot see that
 the identity of the author should make much difference. That said,
 obviously there may be someone who disagrees with me in this.

 Hans


What you are saying, in practice, is that a major firm that hires a
professional public relations firm that writes the best sort of article,
from the viewpoint of the firm, that could be expected to be acceptable
is OK, but a crude amateur effort by an inexperienced free-lancer is not.
What makes a Wikipedia article better for a firm if serious attention by
a public relations firm is regularly paid to it is rather subtle. The
brights are a little brighter, the dulls a little less boring, and the
pig is cute.

Fred



 On 21 October 2013 16:07, David Richfield davidrichfi...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Thanks for the quick reply, Hans!  If our representatives would (for
 example) translate an English company page into Norwegian, and then
 explain the edits on the talk page, and identify their conflict of
 interest on their user pages and also the article talk page, would you
 expect that that would be seen as fair and transparent by the
 Norwegian Wikipedia community?

 On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Hans A. Rosbach
 hans.a.rosb...@gmail.com wrote:
  In no-wp we have a policy that usernames shall be for individuals and
 thus
  typical company usernames are blocked and asked to request change of
 names.
  These users then have no restrictions on which pages to edit. As long
 as
 we
  don't demand identification of users, restrictions on edits would IMO
 be
  futile anyway.
 
  Hans A. Rosbach / User:Haros
 
 
 
  On 21 October 2013 15:14, David Richfield davidrichfi...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Hi all,
 
  When I'm not editing Wikimedia projects, I work for Mondelez
  International, and our Social Media team has contacted me for advice
  on responsible engagement with Wikipedia.  I know that different
  language projects have different rules on whether company
  representatives should:
 
  * Edit pages directly or only ever edit talk pages
  * Edit under their own names or under company names
 
  What are the rules for the Nordic languages?
 
  Thanks,
 
  David
 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Rules of engagement for companies in Swedish, Norwegian, Finnish, Danish?

2013-10-21 Thread Hans A. Rosbach
Is skewing an article easier if you are good at it? Yes I think it is.

Hans


On 21 October 2013 21:13, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote:

  I'm not sure. Someone who posts deficient article that they obviously
  have
  a special relationship to, where the language in addition is deficient,
  may
  easily be meet by a deletion request. The difficulty with promoting a
  company in Wikipedia is the promotion part, not the identity of the
  author.
  For a well sourced, well written, well structured article that takes a
  neutral point of view about a clearly relevant subject, I cannot see that
  the identity of the author should make much difference. That said,
  obviously there may be someone who disagrees with me in this.
 
  Hans
 

 What you are saying, in practice, is that a major firm that hires a
 professional public relations firm that writes the best sort of article,
 from the viewpoint of the firm, that could be expected to be acceptable
 is OK, but a crude amateur effort by an inexperienced free-lancer is not.
 What makes a Wikipedia article better for a firm if serious attention by
 a public relations firm is regularly paid to it is rather subtle. The
 brights are a little brighter, the dulls a little less boring, and the
 pig is cute.

 Fred


 
  On 21 October 2013 16:07, David Richfield davidrichfi...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  Thanks for the quick reply, Hans!  If our representatives would (for
  example) translate an English company page into Norwegian, and then
  explain the edits on the talk page, and identify their conflict of
  interest on their user pages and also the article talk page, would you
  expect that that would be seen as fair and transparent by the
  Norwegian Wikipedia community?
 
  On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Hans A. Rosbach
  hans.a.rosb...@gmail.com wrote:
   In no-wp we have a policy that usernames shall be for individuals and
  thus
   typical company usernames are blocked and asked to request change of
  names.
   These users then have no restrictions on which pages to edit. As long
  as
  we
   don't demand identification of users, restrictions on edits would IMO
  be
   futile anyway.
  
   Hans A. Rosbach / User:Haros
  
  
  
   On 21 October 2013 15:14, David Richfield davidrichfi...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  
   Hi all,
  
   When I'm not editing Wikimedia projects, I work for Mondelez
   International, and our Social Media team has contacted me for advice
   on responsible engagement with Wikipedia.  I know that different
   language projects have different rules on whether company
   representatives should:
  
   * Edit pages directly or only ever edit talk pages
   * Edit under their own names or under company names
  
   What are the rules for the Nordic languages?
  
   Thanks,
  
   David
  
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Rules of engagement for companies in Swedish, Norwegian, Finnish, Danish?

2013-10-21 Thread Johan Jönsson
2013/10/21 David Richfield davidrichfi...@gmail.com

 Hi all,


For Swedish Wikipedia, as I understand our consensus and relevant texts
(WP:IK, WP:Användarkonto, WP:Att skriva om näringsliv, företag och
varumärken):

When I'm not editing Wikimedia projects, I work for Mondelez
 International, and our Social Media team has contacted me for advice
 on responsible engagement with Wikipedia.  I know that different
 language projects have different rules on whether company
 representatives should:

 * Edit pages directly or only ever edit talk pages


Talk pages only, please.

* Edit under their own names or under company names


Their own names (or pseudonyms). We discourage company names as user names.

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[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] [PRESS RELEASE] Statement from Wikimedia Foundation's Sue Gardner in response to paid advocacy editing and sockpuppetry

2013-10-21 Thread Matthew Roth
This statement is also available online:
https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Press_releases/Sue_Gardner_statement_paid_advocacy_editing


Statement from Sue Gardner, Executive Director of the Wikimedia Foundation,
in response to paid advocacy editing and sockpuppetry

Editors on the English Wikipedia are currently investigating allegations of
suspicious edits and sockpuppetry (i.e. using online identities for
purposes of deception). At this point, as reported, it looks like a number
of user accounts -- perhaps as many as several hundred -- may have been
paid to write articles on Wikipedia promoting organizations or products,
and have been violating numerous site policies and guidelines, including
prohibitions against sockpuppetry and undisclosed conflicts of interest. As
a result, Wikipedians aiming to protect the projects against non-neutral
editing have blocked or banned more than 250 user accounts.

The Wikimedia Foundation takes this issue seriously and has been following
it closely.

With a half a billion readers, Wikipedia is an important informational
resource for people all over the world. Our readers know Wikipedia's not
perfect, but they also know that it has their best interests at heart, and
is never trying to sell them a product or propagandize them in any way. Our
goal is to provide neutral, reliable information for our readers, and
anything that threatens that is a serious problem. We are actively
examining this situation and exploring our options.

In the wake of the investigation, editors have expressed shock and dismay.
We understand their reaction and share their concerns. We are grateful to
the editors who've been doing the difficult, painstaking work of trying to
figure out what's happening here.

Editing-for-pay has been a divisive topic inside Wikipedia for many years,
particularly when the edits to articles are promotional in nature. Unlike a
university professor editing Wikipedia articles in their area of expertise,
paid editing for promotional purposes, or paid advocacy editing as we call
it, is extremely problematic. We consider it a black hat practice. Paid
advocacy editing violates the core principles that have made Wikipedia so
valuable for so many people.

What is clear to everyone is that all material on Wikipedia needs to adhere
to Wikipedia's editorial policies, including those on neutrality and
verifiability. It is also clear that companies that engage in unethical
practices on Wikipedia risk seriously damaging their own reputations. In
general, companies engaging in self-promotional activities on Wikipedia
have come under heavy criticism from the press and the general public, with
their actions widely viewed as inconsistent with Wikipedia's educational
mission.

Being deceptive in your editing by using sockpuppets or misrepresenting
your affiliation with a company is against Wikipedia policy and is
prohibited by our Terms of Use. We urge companies to conduct themselves
ethically, to be transparent about what they're doing on Wikipedia, and to
adhere to all site policies and practices.

The Wikimedia Foundation is closely monitoring this ongoing investigation
and we are currently assessing all the options at our disposal. We will
have more to say in the coming weeks.

About the Wikimedia Foundation

http://wikimediafoundation.orgbr/
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The Wikimedia Foundation is the non-profit organization that operates
Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. According to comScore Media Metrix,
Wikipedia and the other projects operated by the Wikimedia Foundation
receive 500 million unique visitors per month, making them the fifth-most
popular web property world-wide (comScore, August 2013). Available in 287
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] New access to non-public information policy, re-ID requirements and data retention

2013-10-21 Thread MZMcBride
Tomasz W. Kozlowski wrote:
The discussion is taking place at
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Access_to_nonpublic_info_policy
and I invite every interested person (with a special invitation to
people holding advanced user rights on any Wikimedia wiki) to take an
active part in it.

This discussion... isn't going great. There's now a talk page section
devoted to users signing a pledge that should the policy, as written, be
enacted by the Board, they'll resign their advanced privileges (steward
access, CheckUser access, etc.). It's up to eight signatories.

Reading through some of the discussion, I have two questions for the
Wikimedia Foundation Board (copied on this e-mail):

* Is the Board interested in updating its 2007 access to nonpublic data
policy?

* Has there been any consideration of removing volunteers from these types
of roles and relying solely on staff?

On a typical site, paid staff would deal with problematic users. There's a
lot of hoopla being put in place (confidentiality pledges, etc.) that
would be much easier to implement if everyone with this type of access
were simply paid staff members or contractors. (Though contractors can
still leak, heh.) But this seems like a legitimate enough question in the
context of the current discussion: should volunteers be filling these
roles or should they be focused more purely on education content creation?

MZMcBride



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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Rules of engagement for companies in Swedish, Norwegian, Finnish, Danish?

2013-10-21 Thread David Richfield
Thanks all!

Surprising as it might seem for a company our size, we don't have any
consultants polishing our Wikipedia pages.

I'm not in communications at all: I'm in RD, but our Corporate
Communications team really does want to act in good faith, which is
why they started talking to me: they're trying to understand the rules
before doing anything, and I want to help them connect with the right
people in the projects, and help them figure out how they're allowed
to contribute responsibly and openly.

Kind regards,

David


On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 9:43 PM, Johan Jönsson brevlis...@gmail.com wrote:
 2013/10/21 David Richfield davidrichfi...@gmail.com

 Hi all,


 For Swedish Wikipedia, as I understand our consensus and relevant texts
 (WP:IK, WP:Användarkonto, WP:Att skriva om näringsliv, företag och
 varumärken):

 When I'm not editing Wikimedia projects, I work for Mondelez
 International, and our Social Media team has contacted me for advice
 on responsible engagement with Wikipedia.  I know that different
 language projects have different rules on whether company
 representatives should:

 * Edit pages directly or only ever edit talk pages


 Talk pages only, please.

 * Edit under their own names or under company names


 Their own names (or pseudonyms). We discourage company names as user names.

 //Johan Jönsson
 --
 http://vetsaga.se
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