[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] The Signpost -- Volume 10, Issue 24 -- 25 June 2014

2014-06-29 Thread Wikipedia Signpost
Exclusive: Foundation's new executive director speaks to the ''Signpost'' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2014-06-25/Exclusive News and notes: US National Archives enshrines Wikipedia in Open Government Plan, plans to upload all holdings to Commons

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open Letter to Lila Regarding Access to Non-Public Information Policy

2014-06-29 Thread Pine W
Trillium, I am having difficulty understanding how retaining copies of possibly forged identification documents helps anyone with holding accountable any rogue functionary or OTRS user. Can you explain that please? Surely someone who intends to misuse the tools will be smart enough to forge an

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open Letter to Lila Regarding Access to Non-Public Information Policy

2014-06-29 Thread pajz
Trillium, while I sympathise with several of the points you're making, the Board has approved the current version of the policy. In light of this, your insinuation that the Executive Director could simply alter the policy to her liking seems somewhat far-fetched. Just because staff have not yet

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Vietnamese wp above 1 M articles and growing

2014-06-29 Thread Minh Nguyen
On 2014-06-24 04:52, Tanweer Morshed wrote: That's a great news that the Vietnamese Wikipedia has crossed 1M articles. What are the significant reasons behind Vietnamese Wikipedia's such growth? Is it just the usage of such clever Bots (that you have mentioned) or contribution by the Vietnamese

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open Letter to Lila Regarding Access to Non-Public Information Policy

2014-06-29 Thread Risker
Okay, that's enough, Trilliium. You've now made a personal attack against an identifiable individual based on gossip and rumour. Stop. Risker On 29 June 2014 10:18, Trillium Corsage trillium2...@yandex.com wrote: Pine, An analogous argument to the one you're making is: someone who intends

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open Letter to Lila Regarding Access to Non-Public Information Policy

2014-06-29 Thread Austin Hair
On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 4:18 PM, Trillium Corsage trillium2...@yandex.com wrote: (I dunno, Chinese military intelligence, with whom arbitrator Timotheus Canens is said by some to be associated?) Seriously? I think you've gone on long enough for now. You can come off moderation when you

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open Letter to Lila Regarding Access to Non-Public Information Policy

2014-06-29 Thread Trillium Corsage
Pine, An analogous argument to the one you're making is: someone who intends to rob your home will be able to get in one way or other, so why bother locking the doors when you go out. This is not a good argument. You're calling into question the reliability of every identification document

Re: [Wikimedia-l] First _draft_ goals for WMF engineering/product

2014-06-29 Thread Michael Peel
Hi Erik, Thanks for sharing this update. It looks like a move in a good direction for WMF's engineering. I am worried by how short-term the current plans/goals are, though. I know that a lot of work that the engineering department does, particularly with regards software, which can only be

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open Letter to Lila Regarding Access to Non-Public Information Policy

2014-06-29 Thread Pine W
Hi Pajz, The idea that a previously trustworthy functionary or OTRS volunteer might later go rogue has occurred to me, so let's work with that example for a moment. Let's hypothesize that we have a good way (90% confidence) of verifying all submitted identity documents and that those documents

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open Letter to Lila Regarding Access to Non-Public Information Policy

2014-06-29 Thread Marc A. Pelletier
On 06/29/2014 03:19 PM, Pine W wrote: If you or someone else can suggest reasonable ways to reach 90% confidence that identity documents are genuine and that identification information will not be compromised while in transit or while at WMF, then I think it makes sense to require