[Wikimedia-l] Wikisource UG report on the WMCON15

2015-05-29 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
Dear all,

I have written a short piece on the WMCON and some interesting aspects
about the organizational future of User Groups.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ew8cVJhqqenGUAVVaTQqkisyPyd1tSX-zbVfi-Uuo8U/edit?usp=sharing

Cheers,
Micru
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of North Carolina Triangle Wikipedians User Group

2015-05-29 Thread Hasive Chowdhury
Congratulations!

-Hasive
WMBD

On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 1:30 AM, Sydney Poore sydney.po...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Awesome news!!

 Sydney

 Sydney Poore
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 at Cochrane Collaboration

 On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 5:17 PM, Carlos M. Colina ma...@wikimedia.org.ve
 wrote:

  Dear all,
 
  On behalf of the Affiliations Committee, I am honored to announce the
  recognition [1] of a new User Group in the United States - the North
  Carolina Triangle Wikipedians. As their name implies, they are mostly
  active in the region known as the Research Triangle, or simply The
  Triangle. They have already organized activities in the region,
 especially
  at Duke and UNC related to MediaWiki, edit-a-thons and the Education
  Program. We'll see more of that in the near future :-)
 
  So please, let's welcome the newest member of the family of affiliates!
  Congrats!
 
  Regards,
  Carlos
 
  1:
 
 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Resolutions/North_Carolina_Triangle_Wikipedians_User_Group_-_Liaison_approval,_May_2015
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Survey: What do you think of our social media feeds?

2015-05-29 Thread Hasive Chowdhury
Just complete the survey. Nice initiative.


-Hasive
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On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 4:13 AM, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk
wrote:

 On 28 May 2015 at 20:57, Fabrice Florin fflo...@wikimedia.org wrote:

  If so, we’d love to hear what you think of our social media feeds.

 I've completed the survey, but there was nowhere to give general feedback.

 I wanted to point out that the idea of social media cards presents
 accessibility barriers to people with visual impairment (and to people
 with images disabled, for example to conserve bandwidth).

 Please post text, not pictures of text.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] A Listen Button

2015-05-29 Thread James Heilman
Yes I agree that well educated, young and technical blind people from
the developed world have found better solutions for using the internet
that we could produce with a listen button.

I see this more for 1) people who do not read because they do not know
how 2) people who are blind but not technical (maybe they are elderly)

Patient.co.uk say that their listen button is used about 1% of the
time. You can see it here http://www.patient.co.uk/health/gout-leaflet

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] A Listen Button

2015-05-29 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 24 January 2015 at 22:21, James Heilman jmh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Why don't we have a Listen button beside our read button that when
 clicked will read the article for the person in question?

Such functionality belongs in the browser, not the web page. So long
as we use valid and accessible markup, the user can use a tool of
their preference to have the page read to them, in a voice that suits
them.

 There are 37 open source text-to-speech listed here
 http://www.findbestopensource.com/tagged/text-to-speech

Having in the past examined several such tools in my capacity as a
professional web manager, I found none which was more suited to the
purpose then the scenario I describe above. Indeed, several seems to
be money-making scams.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Survey: What do you think of our social media feeds?

2015-05-29 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
Thanks for the initiative!

Micru

El vie., 29 de may. de 2015 8:53, Hasive Chowdhury nhas...@wikimedia.org.bd
escribió:

 Just complete the survey. Nice initiative.


 -Hasive
 WMBD

 On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 4:13 AM, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk
 wrote:

  On 28 May 2015 at 20:57, Fabrice Florin fflo...@wikimedia.org wrote:
 
   If so, we’d love to hear what you think of our social media feeds.
 
  I've completed the survey, but there was nowhere to give general
 feedback.
 
  I wanted to point out that the idea of social media cards presents
  accessibility barriers to people with visual impairment (and to people
  with images disabled, for example to conserve bandwidth).
 
  Please post text, not pictures of text.
 
  --
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  @pigsonthewing
  http://pigsonthewing.org.uk
 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan for FY 15-16

2015-05-29 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
perhaps you're right. But keep in mind that the FDC has been set up
specifically as a committee advising the Board in this specific area, and
is composed of people with particular competence in finance, grants, etc.
Whichever body is chosen though, a longer feedback/comment period is
necessary.

best,

dj

On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 7:50 PM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote:

 It does make sense to me that there would be at least a month between
 publication of the full draft plan, including the documentation that
 requested, and the closure of the comment period.

 In its current form the plan is too vague for me to support it as written.

 I think that the WMF audit committee or the WMF Board might be in a better
 position than the FDC to do a thorough review of the plan, including
 holding public Hangout meetings in which the plan is discussed, much like
 how government legislative bodies review proposed budgets in public. This
 would increase public confidence in the quality of the plan.

 Regards,
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] A Listen Button

2015-05-29 Thread rupert THURNER
You mean these persons suggested to remove the catches?

Rupert
On May 28, 2015 11:58 AM, Ilario Valdelli valde...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sorry if I continue this discussion of January but it may be interesting to
 share my experience had yesterday because I attended to a presentation of a
 young programmer suffering from low vision and color-blind and usual
 participant in http://globalaccessibilityawarenessday.org/gaad.html.

 It has been interesting because we experienced how is the life of a person
 studying and working in computer science but almost blind and we had the
 opportunity to be in his shoes.

 The first lesson learned is that blind (or almost blind) people use always
 a software of speech synthesis with a speed that makes the audio
 almost unintelligible
 for not experienced people. The operating system provides several tools for
 that including mobile OS.

 The second lesson is that this software of speech synthesis is crucial for
 them and they would set and control it. So forget the normal speed of audio
 that everyone of us is experienced to use.

 The third lesson is that a lot of them in general hears music with headset
 and have the speech synthesis always on, if there is a third vocal
 synthesis for them is more a problem than an advantage.

 The fourth lesson learned is that Wikipedia is for them a well done web
 site because the content is structured. It means that the Table of Content
 at the start (so neglected by some graphical reasons) is fundamental for
 them because they can easily jump in the section they need.

 No one knew that I am from a Wikimedia chapter except the organizers and I
 did several questions about Wikipedia because (I did not know it) it was
 presented as good example of website for speech synthesis.

 What can be improved, in my opinion it's only the semantic aspect of the
 Wikipedia, so pushing more the attention on the structure of the page, and
 the awareness that images are not useful for them. We must be aware that
 some tools used in Wikipedia, like Captcha, are a real obstacle for blind
 people, like stairs for people with wheelchairs.

 Regards



 On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 2:55 AM, James Heilman jmh...@gmail.com wrote:

  I guess I see this as making it easier for people to generate files to
 put
  on their ipod or for those with a limited ability to read who might not
  have figured out more complicated solutions. Those who are blind have
  likely already figured out good solutions. It is those of us who are
  sighted that need the help.
 
  I know that I personally would find such a button helpful. But through a
  great many steps I could likely figure out a work around. People prefer
  stuff that is simple.
 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] A Listen Button

2015-05-29 Thread Jane Darnell
My blind mom drives me and my brothers crazy by asking us to read her
Wikipedia articles after she has listened to some book-on-tape or radio
show. It would be great if she could speak the title of the article and
have the article read back to her. If we ignore her, she takes revenge by
turning on the TV full blast and flipping channels until she hears
something that she can follow (very often it's Fox news). She has been
legally blind for about 10 years now and what I have noticed is that she is
very unwilling to listen to machine-read text (though it is better than
nothing). I have often thought it would be good to have a radio channel
that just hooked people like her up with people who are willing to read
articles available online. Probably not something for a Wiki project though
it could be if you used each reading as an opportunity to create or update
an audio recording of the article.

On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 2:02 PM, James Heilman jmh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes I agree that well educated, young and technical blind people from
 the developed world have found better solutions for using the internet
 that we could produce with a listen button.

 I see this more for 1) people who do not read because they do not know
 how 2) people who are blind but not technical (maybe they are elderly)

 Patient.co.uk say that their listen button is used about 1% of the
 time. You can see it here http://www.patient.co.uk/health/gout-leaflet

 --
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 MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian

 The Wikipedia Open Textbook of Medicine
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[Wikimedia-l] the digital language divide

2015-05-29 Thread phoebe ayers
This feature on multilingualism online and the digital language divide
from the Guardian is thought-provoking:
http://labs.theguardian.com/digital-language-divide/

It summarizes a bunch of recent research on language online, including
the work from the Oxford Internet Institute on Wikipedia.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Keep me logged in (for up to 30 days)

2015-05-29 Thread Nick Wilson (Quiddity)
Thanks Jane,
I've filed a bug at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T100818 and I will
ask a few people to take a look.

On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 4:02 AM, Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello everybody,

 I have to login to Wikimedia projects every single time I begin a session
 on my iPad1 now because I cannot select the button on the user login page
 next to the text Keep me logged in (for up to 30 days)

 I think it's a java mismatch with my old built-in iPad1 safari browser
 (which cannot be updated, as far as I know). Is there anyplace to check
 this box in some other way? Also, is there a reason this box looks like
 this?

 Thanks in advance,
 Jane
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] A Listen Button

2015-05-29 Thread Nick Wilson (Quiddity)
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 2:58 AM, Ilario Valdelli valde...@gmail.com wrote:

 [...]
 The first lesson learned is that blind (or almost blind) people use always
 a software of speech synthesis with a speed that makes the audio
 almost unintelligible
 for not experienced people. The operating system provides several tools for
 that including mobile OS.

 The second lesson is that this software of speech synthesis is crucial for
 them and they would set and control it. So forget the normal speed of audio
 that everyone of us is experienced to use.



I asked if anyone could point me to examples of how fast do screenreaders
actually read, a few months ago.[1] The best examples I could find at the
time, are here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izrC4R7SsH4#t=1561s
and here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92pM6hJG6Wo

Searching a few days ago, I learned that the average speed that experienced
users generally use is 250-400 wpm, and that the default settings are
around 180wpm.
(Note: Users seem to typically talk about the speed they use in terms of x%
of maximum, rather than wpm, e.g. I've got 63% with rate boost, and
rising.  I used to think 75% with JAWS was fast, but not anymore.  I'm just
turning it 1% faster every couple days, and I'm doing it because I can.
[2])

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Words_per_minute#Speech_and_listening says
English language audio books are generally at 140-160 wpm.

[1]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Accessibility/Archive_13#Good_videos_demonstrating_screenreaders_in_use
[2] http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?id=10649


No one knew that I am from a Wikimedia chapter except the organizers and I
 did several questions about Wikipedia because (I did not know it) it was
 presented as good example of website for speech synthesis.


I believe this is partially through the long-term efforts of: our
developers who have an understanding of accessibility issues, and our few
blind editors and many sight-impaired editors who give regular feedback and
bugreports.[3] Immense kudos to all of them.

[3] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/accessibility/


(Sidenote:  I compiled a list of all the related pages I could find, at
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Accessibility_and_usability_cleanup
Anyone's additions to that listing, or notes/improvements/merge-efforts at
the linked pages over the longterm, would be greatly appreciated. :)

Quiddity
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] the digital language divide

2015-05-29 Thread Alex Wang
Thanks for sending this, Phoebe. Very relevant and interesting.

On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 11:59 AM, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com
wrote:

 This feature on multilingualism online and the digital language divide
 from the Guardian is thought-provoking:
 http://labs.theguardian.com/digital-language-divide/

 It summarizes a bunch of recent research on language online, including
 the work from the Oxford Internet Institute on Wikipedia.

 -- Phoebe


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[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] This week on the Wikimedia Blog

2015-05-29 Thread Fabrice Florin
Hi folks,

Here are some of the stories featured this week on the Wikimedia Blog:

* What we learned from the Inspire campaign to increase gender diversity on 
Wikimedia
http://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/05/28/what-we-learned-from-the-inspire-campaign/

* A translation rally invites volunteers to localize technical messages for 
MediaWiki software
https://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/05/29/translation-rally/

* A dark side of comedy: the impact of John Oliver’s ‘fowl’ jokes on Wikipedia
http://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/05/27/dark-side-of-comedy/

• Scuba diving on Wikipedia: Doug Taylor
http://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/05/26/scuba-diving-on-wikipedia/

More stories on the Wikimedia Blog:
https://blog.wikimedia.org/

Enjoy,


Fabrice


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[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] The Signpost -- Volume 11, Issue 21 -- 27 May 2015

2015-05-29 Thread Wikipedia Signpost
News and notes: WMF releases quarterly reports, annual plans
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2015-05-27/News_and_notes

In the media: Scrubbing Parliamentary biographies; Wikipedia's invisible history
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2015-05-27/In_the_media

Recent research: Drug articles accurate and largely complete; women slightly 
overrepresented; talking like an admin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2015-05-27/Recent_research

Traffic report: Summer, summer, summertime
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2015-05-27/Traffic_report

Discussion report: A relic from the past that needs to be updated
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2015-05-27/Discussion_report

Featured content: When music was confined to a ribbon of rust
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2015-05-27/Featured_content

Technology report: MediaWiki blows up printers
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2015-05-27/Technology_report


Single page view
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Single/2015-05-27

PDF version
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book:Wikipedia_Signpost/2015-05-27


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikisource-l] Wikisource UG report on the WMCON15

2015-05-29 Thread Asaf Bartov
Thank you for sharing this.  I could not attend that session, and this was
an interesting read.  I would be happy to advise on some of the proposed
ideas if there are people interested in leading them.

   A.

On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 2:04 AM, David Cuenca Tudela dacu...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Dear all,

 I have written a short piece on the WMCON and some interesting aspects
 about the organizational future of User Groups.

 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ew8cVJhqqenGUAVVaTQqkisyPyd1tSX-zbVfi-Uuo8U/edit?usp=sharing

 Cheers,
 Micru

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[Wikimedia-l] New Inspire Campaign report

2015-05-29 Thread Siko Bouterse
Hi all,
We've published a report and blog post sharing some more findings from our
recent Inspire campaign:
https://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/05/28/what-we-learned-from-the-inspire-campaign/
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Spring_2015_Inspire_campaign
As always, your thoughts are welcome (preferably on the discussion page or
in blog comments, for easy tracking).
Warm regards,
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] A Listen Button

2015-05-29 Thread Pharos
For those who are interested, this is the American Sign Language Wikipedia
on Incubator:

https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/ase

Sign languages are indeed real languages, and for example American Sign
Language is unrelated to English or even British Sign Language (in fact,
it's closest to French Sign Language).

It is certainly true that sign languages have not historically been written
in any form by most of their users, and so video should be an important
part of any such project, although video is of course not really as
wiki-amenable as text is.

The most complete writing system for sign languages, however, a sort of
International Phonetic Alphabet, is SignWriting, and its community has been
active of Wikimedia projects.  There are some technical difficulties with
implementing SignWriting on-wiki, including the vast number of potential
gestures to be represented, that it is not yet in Unicode, and also that it
is written vertically rather than horizontally, but progress has been made
on this with a MediaWiki software extension by the SignWriting community.

Thanks,
Pharos

On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 5:22 PM, Andrew Lih andrew@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 7:32 AM, Cristian Consonni 
 kikkocrist...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Il 25/Gen/2015 12:18 Martin Kraft martin.kr...@gmx.de ha scritto:
   Did I miss some aspect? Is there a point in converting something visual
  into something visual?
 
  I have been told that people born deaf find more easy to read things in
  sign language. I imagine it like the difference between reading something
  written in your mother tongue and reading something in another language
 you
  know.
 

 Yes, I had a deaf student who opened my eyes to this -- he wanted to create
 a video site for the deaf that would have signed videos and movies. He had
 staffers and volunteers take viral YouTube videos and sign them for the
 deaf.

 My first question was, wouldn't reading subtitles simply solve the problem?
 Why do you need to do ASL versions?

 He gave me an annoyed look. It's something the deaf community finds
 frustrating to explain to outsiders.

 There's a reason its called American SIGN LANGUAGE and not signed English
 language. It's a primary language in itself, and reading off the screen is
 as inferior an experience as if we read the subtitles with the sound off.

 -Andrew
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