[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Invitation to WMF August 2015 Metrics & Activities Meeting: Thursday, September 3, 18:00 UTC

[Praveena Maharaj]

REMINDER: This meeting starts in 30 minutes.

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Subject: Invitation to WMF August 2015 Metrics & Activities Meeting:
Thursday, September 3, 18:00 UTC
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Dear all,

The next WMF metrics and activities meeting will take place on
Thursday, September 3, 2015 at 6:00 PM UTC (11 AM PDT). The IRC
channel is #wikimedia-office on irc.freenode.net, and the meeting will
be broadcast as a live YouTube stream.

At next month's meeting, we will:

* Welcome recent hires
* Present a community update
* Review WMF top-level metrics
* Share research findings
* Showcase recent work
* Engage in questions/discussions

Please review
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Metrics_and_activities_meetings for further
information about the meeting and how to participate.

We’ll post the video recording publicly after the meeting.

Thank you,
Praveena

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising

[Pine W]

I just want to respond to this point in particular:

"Postponing the Italian fundraising campaign means for the first time in at
least 4 years, the fundraising team will not be meeting a target. The team
will pick up extra work in October to make up for work missed in September.
It's not possible to do two months of work in one month, so there will need
to be adjustments later throughout the year to make up for missing the
September target."

It was somewhat courageous for WMF Fundraising to change its schedule and
forecast missing a target as a result. Two quotes seem appropriate in the
context of this conversation, particularly regarding WMF's taking the
community's priorities into account and absorbing the risks to its plans
that come with changing to accommodate WLM:

"Courage is what it takes to stand up and speak; courage is also what it
takes to sit down and listen." -- Winston Churchill.

"Either you decide to stay in the shallow end of the pool or you go out in
the ocean." --Christopher Reeve

Thanks Megan and all.

Pine


On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 12:29 PM, Mathias Damour  wrote:

> Le 31/08/2015 13:02, Megan Hernandez a écrit :
>
>> Postponing the Italian fundraising campaign means for the first time in at
>> least 4 years, the fundraising team will not be meeting a target. The team
>> will pick up extra work in October to make up for work missed in
>> September.
>> It's not possible to do two months of work in one month, so there will
>> need
>> to be adjustments later throughout the year to make up for missing the
>> September target.
>>
>
> The WMF team is without any doubt very professional in "meeting its
> target" and in smooth communication.
>
> We should also understand that despite the huge growth of the WMF these
> last few years, it may feel an inferiority complex and think it has a
> backlog to catch up compared to some much richer neighbouring companies in
> the San Francisco Bay ! I guess they roughly think: "Why should we have 15
> time less employees than Twitter !" That's why raising up the fundraising
> targets can be more important than to facilitate a WLM event in just one
> not-so-big country ! :-P
>
> Nevertheless it still give the impression of taking the word-wide donors,
> the volunteers and the other entities (chapters) for pawns/chess pieces
> that you may move or stop whenever you want or need...
> Maybe the ones to blame are the neighbouring internet companies for
> setting a bad example to the WMF... :-\
>
> --
> Mathias Damour
> [[User:Astirmays]]
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Re : New WMF initiative: Community Capacity Development

[Pine W]

In general I'm glad to see this project moving forward. I would encourage
the project to interface with the ongoing work in L about toolkits, as
well as the Learning Patterns Library.

Thanks,

Pine
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] "Wikipedia rocked by 'rogue editors' blackmail scam targeting small businesses and celebrities"

[Peter Southwood]

Do you really think they may be acting in bad faith?
Peter

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Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] "Wikipedia rocked by 'rogue editors' blackmail scam 
targeting small businesses and celebrities"

The Orangemoody network seems to have been providing a service: bring the 
apparently self-submitted but failed drafts of articles of persons, 
organizations, and businesses up to compliance with Wikipedia standards and get 
them live, then accept a previously negotiated fee. After some months of 
safeguarding those articles for free, they would offer to continue doing so at 
a monthly rate. I'm not seeing the harm.

Oh, I'd like to check if the articles were actually unduly promotional and POV 
and so forth, unfortunately the erstwhile investigators have deleted them so 
no-one except administrators may see. Which comes in handy for the 
investigators, because it means everybody must go by their characterizations of 
the articles.

I heard a murmur that Orangemoody would actually request deletion of its own 
articles if the subject failed to agree to the monthly fee, but Risker said 
this vaguely as if there were only a couple or few examples of this.

As well, though the IP addresses have not been disclosed, one of the accused 
Orangemoody accounts belongs to a Bangladeshi editor of three or more years. 
Raising the question of whether geolocation to Bangladesh and other nearby poor 
countries was a clue to the investigators to connect the Orangemoody accounts. 
Which on confirmation would raise the further question of whether the entire 
case was almost exclusively comparatively well-off westerners destroying the 
business and livelihood of impoverished Bangladeshis and other easterners just 
trying to put food on the table for their kids.

 Trillium Corsage

02.09.2015, 21:53, "Matt Campbell" :
> Glad to hear it.
>
>  Original message 
> From: James Heilman 
> Date: 09/01/2015 10:31 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: Wikimedia Mailing List 
> Subject: [Wikimedia-l] "Wikipedia rocked by 'rogue editors' blackmail scam 
> targeting small businesses and celebrities"
>
> We have a number of discussions ongoing with respect to what measures we
>
> should take to address the issue of promotional paid editing generally and
>
> to prevent this from happening again
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard#Wikipedia:Long-term_abuse.2FOrangemoody
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Doc_James/Paid_editing
>
> --
>
> James Heilman
>
> MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian
>
> The Wikipedia Open Textbook of Medicine
>
> www.opentextbookofmedicine.com
>
> As of July 2015 I am a board member of the Wikimedia Foundation
>
> My emails; however, do not represent the official position of the WMF
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Superprotect's first birthday

[Pine W]

If WMF decides to completely remove Superprotect and the Board's
forthcoming policy prohibits the reintroduction of Superprotect without
Board authorization, I won't object to that outcome.

Pine
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Re : New WMF initiative: Community Capacity Development

[Asaf Bartov]

I'm glad you like it.

What about the project pages made you conclude it's not already interfacing
with L?  Have you noticed the Resources sections, in particular?

   A.
On Sep 3, 2015 12:21 AM, "Pine W"  wrote:

> In general I'm glad to see this project moving forward. I would encourage
> the project to interface with the ongoing work in L about toolkits, as
> well as the Learning Patterns Library.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Pine
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Re : New WMF initiative: Community Capacity Development

[Pine W]

In my travels in the L workshop pages, I can't recall seeing a reference
from the toolkits to the CCD initiative pages, and I am hoping to see links
from CCD pages to the toolkits as the latter are built out.

I have encouraged L to design toolkits with new or emerging communities
in mind, and my understanding is that they agree that this is something
that can use further development in the toolkits. Rosemary, could you talk
a little about the plans for this, such as when we might see toolkits with
sets of information that are geared for small communities?

Thanks!

Pine


On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 12:32 AM, Asaf Bartov  wrote:

> I'm glad you like it.
>
> What about the project pages made you conclude it's not already
> interfacing with L?  Have you noticed the Resources sections, in
> particular?
>
>A.
> On Sep 3, 2015 12:21 AM, "Pine W"  wrote:
>
>> In general I'm glad to see this project moving forward. I would encourage
>> the project to interface with the ongoing work in L about toolkits, as
>> well as the Learning Patterns Library.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Pine
>>
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] "Wikipedia rocked by 'rogue editors' blackmail scam targeting small businesses and celebrities"

[Yongmin Hong]

2015. 9. 3. 오전 6:00에 "Trillium Corsage" 님이 작성:
>
> The Orangemoody network seems to have been providing a service: bring the
apparently self-submitted but failed drafts of articles of persons,
organizations, and businesses up to compliance with Wikipedia standards and
get them live, then accept a previously negotiated fee.

Using multiple account is violation of enwp policy (Sockpuppetry), and
undisclosed paid editing is in violation of wmf ToU. In any way, that's
no-no. And nobody owns the Wikipedia page, so you cannot delete the article
because 'subject did not paid the fee'.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] "Wikipedia rocked by 'rogue editors' blackmail scam targeting small businesses and celebrities"

[David Goodman]

Trillium, they were not writing to  " bring the apparently self-submitted
but failed drafts of articles of persons, organizations, and businesses up
to compliance with Wikipedia standards ". They were mostly posting the same
rejected article, supplemented sometimes by references that made it look
more impressive, but actually had little if any relationship with the
articles subject. They did act to "get  them live", but they did it by
subterfuge, using various tricks to bypass the usual process of new page
patrol and other review.  T

I  personally examined all the articles; so did   several other people with
long experience in knowing what passes WPs deletion processes. Out of the
over 200,  I was able to identify 3 where it might have been possible to
write a satisfactory article; other people spotted a few additional ones.
The remainder were on topics where nobody could do so.  If the perpetrators
of this scheme did know Wikipedia,  as they claimed to in their sales
pitches, they would have known this also, and known that they were asking
for payments for what they would have known they could not deliver. If they
had no such knowledge, they were making false claims of expertise.  In
either case, they were sufficiently clever to make no guarantee.

Are you still " not seeing the harm"?

Sometimes "well-off Westerners" have done similar things,  though we have
had no previous example of such blatant and extensive extortion,  and we
have hundreds of cases where we have proceeded equally against them.

Matt, it isn't WP they are going to sue. It's the people who defrauded
them. It isn't removing this material that might give us a bad reputation;
it would have been the failure to remove them.  No technical measure will
prevent similar attacks on our integrity, though ones under discussion will
make it more difficult for naive beginners.  Only vigilance by WPedians who
are willing to   fully and knowledgeably  examine contributions will have
any substantial effect.  But we do in fact have something to be ashamed of,
which is  our previous negligence: there are probably 100,000 or so
articles not challenged in the past that need to be skeptically revisited.




On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 10:04 AM, Trillium Corsage 
wrote:

> Response to Peter Southwood's question.
>
> Are the investigators acting in bad faith? Does a mob know it is a mob, or
> is it that the people in it have lost the capacity for self-critical and
> analytic thought? On the one Orangemoody article I've been able to review
> so far, Bosch Sensortec (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosch_Sensortec),
> I found it to be a solidly-sourced, neutrally-toned, and informative
> "stub." It's currently being derided by Orangemoody investigators as
> promotional copy-and-paste of an alleged company press release (which has
> not been pointed to) and further claimed without visible evidence to have
> been contracted out by Orangemoody to a low-wage author through Elance.
>
> The answer is that I don't know; in order to examine it further I'd like
> to view the deleted articles to see for myself whether they were actually
> promotional and unsourced obvious advocacy articles. Or if, like Bosch
> Sensortec, they tended actually to be pretty good. Unfortunately the
> Orangemoody investigation's team has decided they must remain unavailable
> to the public, allegedly to protect the article subjects from repeat
> alleged victimization.
>
> Trillium Corsage
>
> 03.09.2015, 07:55, "Peter Southwood" :
>
> > Do you really think they may be acting in bad faith?
> > Peter
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:
> wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Trillium Corsage
> > Sent: Wednesday, 02 September 2015 10:58 PM
> > To: Wikimedia Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] "Wikipedia rocked by 'rogue editors'
> blackmail scam targeting small businesses and celebrities"
> >
> > The Orangemoody network seems to have been providing a service: bring
> the apparently self-submitted but failed drafts of articles of persons,
> organizations, and businesses up to compliance with Wikipedia standards and
> get them live, then accept a previously negotiated fee. After some months
> of safeguarding those articles for free, they would offer to continue doing
> so at a monthly rate. I'm not seeing the harm.
> >
> > Oh, I'd like to check if the articles were actually unduly promotional
> and POV and so forth, unfortunately the erstwhile investigators have
> deleted them so no-one except administrators may see. Which comes in handy
> for the investigators, because it means everybody must go by their
> characterizations of the articles.
> >
> > I heard a murmur that Orangemoody would actually request deletion of its
> own articles if the subject failed to agree to the monthly fee, but Risker
> said this vaguely as if there were only a couple or few examples of this.
> >
> > As well, though 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] "Wikipedia rocked by 'rogue editors' blackmail scam targeting small businesses and celebrities"

[Trillium Corsage]

Response to Peter Southwood's question.

Are the investigators acting in bad faith? Does a mob know it is a mob, or is 
it that the people in it have lost the capacity for self-critical and analytic 
thought? On the one Orangemoody article I've been able to review so far, Bosch 
Sensortec (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosch_Sensortec), I found it to be a 
solidly-sourced, neutrally-toned, and informative "stub." It's currently being 
derided by Orangemoody investigators as promotional copy-and-paste of an 
alleged company press release (which has not been pointed to) and further 
claimed without visible evidence to have been contracted out by Orangemoody to 
a low-wage author through Elance.

The answer is that I don't know; in order to examine it further I'd like to 
view the deleted articles to see for myself whether they were actually 
promotional and unsourced obvious advocacy articles. Or if, like Bosch 
Sensortec, they tended actually to be pretty good. Unfortunately the 
Orangemoody investigation's team has decided they must remain unavailable to 
the public, allegedly to protect the article subjects from repeat alleged 
victimization. 
  
Trillium Corsage

03.09.2015, 07:55, "Peter Southwood" :

> Do you really think they may be acting in bad faith?
> Peter
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org 
> [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Trillium Corsage
> Sent: Wednesday, 02 September 2015 10:58 PM
> To: Wikimedia Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] "Wikipedia rocked by 'rogue editors' blackmail 
> scam targeting small businesses and celebrities"
>
> The Orangemoody network seems to have been providing a service: bring the 
> apparently self-submitted but failed drafts of articles of persons, 
> organizations, and businesses up to compliance with Wikipedia standards and 
> get them live, then accept a previously negotiated fee. After some months of 
> safeguarding those articles for free, they would offer to continue doing so 
> at a monthly rate. I'm not seeing the harm.
>
> Oh, I'd like to check if the articles were actually unduly promotional and 
> POV and so forth, unfortunately the erstwhile investigators have deleted them 
> so no-one except administrators may see. Which comes in handy for the 
> investigators, because it means everybody must go by their characterizations 
> of the articles.
>
> I heard a murmur that Orangemoody would actually request deletion of its own 
> articles if the subject failed to agree to the monthly fee, but Risker said 
> this vaguely as if there were only a couple or few examples of this.
>
> As well, though the IP addresses have not been disclosed, one of the accused 
> Orangemoody accounts belongs to a Bangladeshi editor of three or more years. 
> Raising the question of whether geolocation to Bangladesh and other nearby 
> poor countries was a clue to the investigators to connect the Orangemoody 
> accounts. Which on confirmation would raise the further question of whether 
> the entire case was almost exclusively comparatively well-off westerners 
> destroying the business and livelihood of impoverished Bangladeshis and other 
> easterners just trying to put food on the table for their kids.
>
>  Trillium Corsage
>
> 02.09.2015, 21:53, "Matt Campbell" :
>>  Glad to hear it.



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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Re : New WMF initiative: Community Capacity Development

[Maria Cruz]

Hi Pine,
Thanks for bringing this up.
 We have actually talked with Asaf and Sati about possible ways in which
the CCD initiative could inform toolkit development, in order to make sure
to keep them relevant, specially for emerging communities. One of the
things we want to do is user testing of the current toolkits, and also
develop new ones, based on what emerges as a high demand.

It is important, though, to give CCD initiative time, and room to generate
consensus around what are high demand capacities. We can certainly link to
the CCD initiative from the L portal.

The workshop kits that Rosemary is referring to are resources to be able to
host L workshops anywhere in the Wikimedia movement. You can see the
draft on my Sandbox
.
This addresses the need for extending training across the movement, without
this being dependent only on L staff. Once we have them published, we can
see how we could incorporate them to the CCD pages, as they also serve to
develop capacity.

Let me know if you have further questions or comments, or other ideas that
came up, happy to hear them!

Best,

María



*María Cruz * \\  Communications and Outreach Coordinator, L Team \\
Wikimedia
Foundation, Inc.
mc...@wikimedia.org  |  :  @marianarra_ 

On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 4:55 AM, Pine W  wrote:

> In my travels in the L workshop pages, I can't recall seeing a reference
> from the toolkits to the CCD initiative pages, and I am hoping to see links
> from CCD pages to the toolkits as the latter are built out.
>
> I have encouraged L to design toolkits with new or emerging communities
> in mind, and my understanding is that they agree that this is something
> that can use further development in the toolkits. Rosemary, could you talk
> a little about the plans for this, such as when we might see toolkits with
> sets of information that are geared for small communities?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Pine
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 12:32 AM, Asaf Bartov 
> wrote:
>
> > I'm glad you like it.
> >
> > What about the project pages made you conclude it's not already
> > interfacing with L?  Have you noticed the Resources sections, in
> > particular?
> >
> >A.
> > On Sep 3, 2015 12:21 AM, "Pine W"  wrote:
> >
> >> In general I'm glad to see this project moving forward. I would
> encourage
> >> the project to interface with the ongoing work in L about toolkits, as
> >> well as the Learning Patterns Library.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Pine
> >>
> >
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[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] The Signpost -- Volume 11, Issue 35 -- 02 September 2015

[Wikipedia Signpost]

Special report: Massive paid editing network unearthed on the English Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2015-09-02/Special_report

News and notes: Flow placed on ice
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2015-09-02/News_and_notes

Discussion report: WMF's sudden reversal on Wiki Loves Monuments
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2015-09-02/Discussion_report

Featured content: Brawny
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2015-09-02/Featured_content

In the media: Orangemoody sockpuppet case sparks widespread coverage
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2015-09-02/In_the_media

Traffic report: You didn't miss much
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2015-09-02/Traffic_report

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