Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Commons-l] TPP - copyright

[Ivan Martínez]

Hi folks, following this conversation, Creative Commons published this post
yesterday.

https://creativecommons.org/campaigns/trans-pacific-partnership-would-harm-user-rights-and-the-commons

2015-11-07 2:15 GMT-06:00 Ivan Martínez :

> Hi, there's a lot of review and analyze about TPP because not only in the
> States we will have potential strong legal modifications. In Wikimedia
> Mexico we are aware since one year ago at least following the analysis of
> other NGOs devoted to internet freedom and copyright which can be a
> potential risk to Wikimedia mission.
>
> The main issue in the next days is that the extension of the revealed text
> needs to have much analysis to have clear points that can be potential
> risks to our mission.
>
> Thanks,
>
> 2015-11-07 1:16 GMT-06:00 Gergő Tisza :
>
>> On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 9:22 AM, Ryan Kaldari 
>> wrote:
>>
>> > I don't see anything in the TPP requiring retroactive application of
>> > copyright terms. We'll have to wait and see how the various countries
>> > choose to apply the new terms. Applying terms retroactively is uncommon,
>> > but possible. We also have no idea when these countries are actually
>> going
>> > to apply the new terms.
>> >
>>
>> I don't think it's uncommon, the US is the odd one out on this (or almost
>> out, since in the end it did apply Berne  terms retroactively). For
>> example
>> the EU Copyright Directive prescribes a death + 70 copyright term so
>> countries joining the EU restore copyright to all works for which they had
>> shorter protection. International copyright treaties tend to be
>> retroactive
>> by default; "works shall be protected for X years after the death of the
>> author" applies to all works, whether they are in the public domain
>> currently or not.
>>
>> From the regulator's point of view this is reasonable; the point of these
>> treaties is harmonization of the law, and harmonizing the protection term
>> of one group of works but leaving another group protected in some
>> countries
>> and unprotected in others doesn't really make sense. The alternative would
>> be a rule of the shorter term, but the US does not have that, and they are
>> the driving force behind TPP, so...
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Punjabi Wikimedians User Group

[Victor Grigas]

This is wonderful news!

On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 6:24 AM, Redon Skikuli  wrote:

> Panjabi Wikimedians User Group! I'll visit Pakistan probably in January and
> would be great to have a meeting between the Panjabi and the Albanian
> speaking user group.
> All the best in your activities.
>
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>
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 8:44 AM, Subhashish Panigrahi <
> subhash...@cis-india.org> wrote:
>
> > Congratulations all of you for making this possible!
> >
> > best,
> > Subha
> >
> > On 11/18/2015 12:08 PM, Nurunnaby Chowdhury (Hasive) wrote:
> > > Congratulations Panjabi Wikimedians User Group!
> > >
> > >
> > > ~Hasive
> > > WMBD
> > >
> > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 12:15 PM, Tito Dutta 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> That's amazing. Congrats Satdeep, Gaurav, Parveer, Gill sir and
> others.
> > :)
> > >>
> > >> On 18 November 2015 at 02:18, Carlos M. Colina <
> ma...@wikimedia.org.ve>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Dear all,
> > >>>
> > >>> On behalf of the Affiliations Committee, I am honoured to announce
> the
> > >>> recognition of Punjabi Wikimedians [1] as a Wikimedia User Group.
> > >>>
> > >>> They are a group of wikimedians who are working together in different
> > >>> projects related to the Punjabi language and culture. They have
> already
> > >>> organized a few events and activities, like the edit-a-thon on
> occasion
> > >> of
> > >>> the 13th anniversary of the Punjabi Wikipedia, another on the
> > >> International
> > >>> Women's day and several Wikipedia Workshops and meetups.
> > >>>
> > >>> Welcome!!!
> > >>>
> > >>> 1: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Punjabi_Wikimedians
> > >>> --
> > >>> "*Jülüjain wane mmakat* ein kapülain tü alijunakalirua jee
> > wayuukanairua
> > >>> junain ekerolaa alümüin supüshuwayale etijaanaka. Ayatashi waya
> > junain."
> > >>> Carlos M. Colina
> > >>> Socio, A.C. Wikimedia Venezuela | RIF J-40129321-2 |
> > >> www.wikimedia.org.ve
> > >>> 
> > >>> Chair, Wikimedia Foundation Affiliations Committee
> > >>> Phone: +972-52-4869915
> > >>> Twitter: @maor_x
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community revitalization

[Peter Southwood]

That's what I thought. I would certainly find it useful both ways, but not in 
my skill set to create it.
Cheers,
Peter

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Peter that would be very useful both the contributors and to readers

On 18 November 2015 at 14:00, Peter Southwood 
wrote:

> How about a tool to look up in Wiktionary from Wikipedia?
> Cheers,
> Peter
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On 
> Behalf Of Pine W
> Sent: Tuesday, 17 November 2015 11:40 PM
> To: Wikimedia Mailing List; Toby Negrin
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community revitalization
>
> Thanks Michal.
> I periodically use English Wiktionary and am pleased with it as a reader.
> I am wondering what it might take to increase our readership of 
> Wiktionaries in general, perhaps by increasing the prominence of them 
> in Google search results. Pinging Toby to see if he has any ideas on 
> how to increase the readership of Wiktionaries.
> Regards,
> Pine
>
> On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Michal Lester 
> 
> wrote:
>
> > Dear friends and colleague,
> >
> >
> >
> > I would to share with you the post we published on Wikimedia Blog 
> > (November 13, 2015) [1]. It describes how WMIL works with few
> > *Wiktionary* volunteers in a process of revitalization of 
> > *Wiktionary* community. I believe it could be useful case study for 
> > those of you who
> deal with similar issues.
> >
> > I would be happy to provide more info. to anyone who is interested 
> > Michal
> >
> > [1]
> >
> > https://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/11/13/hebrew-wiktionary-community-re
> > vi
> > talization/
> >
> > *Regards,*
> >
> >
> > *Michal Lester,*
> >
> > *Executive DirectorWikimedia Israel* *http://www.wikimedia.org.il 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Punjabi Wikimedians User Group

[Redon Skikuli]

Panjabi Wikimedians User Group! I'll visit Pakistan probably in January and
would be great to have a meeting between the Panjabi and the Albanian
speaking user group.
All the best in your activities.

*---*

*Redon Skikuli*
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*web: **www.skikuli.com *


On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 8:44 AM, Subhashish Panigrahi <
subhash...@cis-india.org> wrote:

> Congratulations all of you for making this possible!
>
> best,
> Subha
>
> On 11/18/2015 12:08 PM, Nurunnaby Chowdhury (Hasive) wrote:
> > Congratulations Panjabi Wikimedians User Group!
> >
> >
> > ~Hasive
> > WMBD
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 12:15 PM, Tito Dutta 
> wrote:
> >
> >> That's amazing. Congrats Satdeep, Gaurav, Parveer, Gill sir and others.
> :)
> >>
> >> On 18 November 2015 at 02:18, Carlos M. Colina 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Dear all,
> >>>
> >>> On behalf of the Affiliations Committee, I am honoured to announce the
> >>> recognition of Punjabi Wikimedians [1] as a Wikimedia User Group.
> >>>
> >>> They are a group of wikimedians who are working together in different
> >>> projects related to the Punjabi language and culture. They have already
> >>> organized a few events and activities, like the edit-a-thon on occasion
> >> of
> >>> the 13th anniversary of the Punjabi Wikipedia, another on the
> >> International
> >>> Women's day and several Wikipedia Workshops and meetups.
> >>>
> >>> Welcome!!!
> >>>
> >>> 1: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Punjabi_Wikimedians
> >>> --
> >>> "*Jülüjain wane mmakat* ein kapülain tü alijunakalirua jee
> wayuukanairua
> >>> junain ekerolaa alümüin supüshuwayale etijaanaka. Ayatashi waya
> junain."
> >>> Carlos M. Colina
> >>> Socio, A.C. Wikimedia Venezuela | RIF J-40129321-2 |
> >> www.wikimedia.org.ve
> >>> 
> >>> Chair, Wikimedia Foundation Affiliations Committee
> >>> Phone: +972-52-4869915
> >>> Twitter: @maor_x
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Harassment consultation on Meta

[Maggie Dennis]

We are hoping for broad participation, too, Lila! More input, and wide
input, gives us a better chance at coming up with strong ideas that can
improve our techniques and tools to address harassment across the board.

In the four + years I've been at the Wikimedia Foundation, I've been
involved in more than a few incidents involving harassment. Some of what
I've seen has been utterly appalling. It is an issue that I believe can
impact anyone, female or male, from any project. One of the driving factors
in our team's desire to do this work is the recognition of the impact that
the issue can have on people and the real difficulty in addressing it.

As people are likely aware, we have recently wrapped the survey part
 of our
consultation. We will be compiling data from it over the next several weeks
and releasing it publicly as soon as that work is complete to help give us
a clearer idea of the scope of the issue on our projects. The current
consultation phase
 is a
thought-gathering exercise. We're hoping to collect all kinds of ideas
about the problem - what it is, how it can be addressed, what's working in
other places, what's working for us, and what it isn't working for us.

We don't imagine that this is a "one consultation solves the problem"
situation. Our goal is to, with ongoing conversations, work with
communities to start creating actionable resources to assist with
harassment. My personal hope is that we will wind up with solutions that
can be implemented at all levels - by the WMF, by the communities.
(Probably too much to hope for immediate external change, like better
legislation, but I can dream!)  But the purpose of the conversation at this
stage is to make sure that we hear many ideas and different ideas and that
we consider them together. Because there may be and probably is somebody
out there with an unexpected and insightful perspective or a unique idea.
For that reason, we are calling to everyone we can to participate in this
conversation. Our survey was sent to a subset of active editors on every
project, and we invite participation from absolutely anyone in this
consultation.

Just for clarity with regards to what we're doing on child protection, I
want to be sure people realize that, although child protection is one of
our priorities, it’s not necessarily the focus of the harassment
consultations and our wider harassment project. :) It’s something we are
working on separately. Child protection has been part of our workflow since
before I came aboard in 2011. What's new here is our ability to focus. We
have been working to strengthen our policies and practices and have created
a trust & safety team with the intent to strengthen our trust & safety
practices.[1] While all of CA assists in trust & safety work and the trust
& safety team assists in other areas of CA work, the team helps ensure our
focus remains on this important work and also builds a frame for an
increasingly robust trust & safety response in future.

Best,

Maggie

[1] Trust & safety, for those unfamiliar with the term, includes child
protection and general protection of the public and our communities from
threats.










On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 2:05 AM, Lila Tretikov  wrote:

> Patrick,
>
> Thank you for posting this.I am really hoping a lot of people will
> participate. Anti-harassment and child protection is something that we took
> on only about a year ago and I am very grateful to see the team pushing
> ahead with this. Your work on this is one of the most important new
> initiatives to support more inclusive, diverse and gender-balanced
> communities.
>
> Since this is ongoing, it would be great if you could share what we are
> hoping will be the result of this phase and what is upcoming.
>
> What are we doing for outreach, especially to female Wikimedians?
>
> Lila
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 3:11 PM, Patrick Earley 
> wrote:
>
> > Thanks Lodewijk.  We didn't mean "ideas" to limit contributions to full
> > proposals or solutions.  It could just be "Random thoughts from
> Lodewijk" -
> > it's meant to be very open.  You can also start a conversation about
> > another idea by clicking on it to find its discussion, or take part in an
> > ongoing one.  I'll talk to my team to see if we can improve the language
> to
> > make it clear all levels of participation are welcome.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 2:43 PM, Lodewijk 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks for addressing the theme. While looking at the page, I'm having
> a
> > > hard time getting my head around it though. You seem to ask for
> > 'thoughts'
> > > on a number of issues, but then you only allow a field for 'ideas'
> (which
> > > sounds like 'solutions' to me). Maybe this is a language issue, but
> would
> > > there be a lower threshold pathway to 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Harassment consultation on Meta

[Dariusz Jemielniak]

I'm delighted it is up, and that the conversation is going in a very
concrete direction. I'm very much looking forward to working with the
results!

best,

dariusz "pundit"

On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 7:44 PM, Patrick Earley 
wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> Community Advocacy at the WMF is running a month-long discussion on the
> topic of harassment on our projects.  This will be the first in a series -
> as it is the initial discussion, we are keeping it open and broad to
> encourage brainstorming and creativity.
>
> It is currently live on Meta, and will be open until at least Dec. 16:
>
>
>- https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Harassment_consultation_2015
>
> We encourage all to participate, share ideas, and provide feedback on the
> ideas of others.  Online harassment is a complex, pervasive issue, and we
> can't make progress without exploring the best ways forward.
>
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