Re: [Wikimedia-l] [GLAM] Video: "Wikipedia, an introduction - Erasmus Prize 2015"

I understand and even sympathize with your position, although not your outright hostility. (Please keep that to a minimum, by the way.) As others have said, the recognition of Adele Vrana as one of the three laureates accepting on behalf of the Community, and with it the explicit recognition of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Video: "Wikipedia, an introduction - Erasmus Prize 2015"

On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 12:21 AM, Pine W wrote: > Beautiful video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0p8wFdnPfVw > > Pine > This is a wonderful video. Thank you so much to everyone involved in making it. Sarah ___ Wikimedia-l

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [GLAM] Video: "Wikipedia, an introduction - Erasmus Prize 2015"

The on-wiki version is at: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikipedia,_an_introduction_-_Erasmus_Prize_2015.webm Thanks, Mike > On 26 Nov 2015, at 01:35, Arne Wossink

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] FDC recommendations for 2015-2016 Round 1 APG grant requests

Hoi Gerard, I'm sorry that they came across to you as weasel words - they weren't meant to be, they were meant to be an explanation of how the FDC operates. It wasn't a refusal to accept responsibility - the FDC is responsible for its recommendations, but the WMF board then decides on whether

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] FDC recommendations for 2015-2016 Round 1 APG grant requests

Dariusz Jemielniak wrote: >On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 2:37 PM, MZMcBride wrote: >>Or from a different angle: how is the Wikimedia Foundation budget >>allocated? Does the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees currently do >>its own direct allocation, bypassing the FDC? > >I hope

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] FDC recommendations for 2015-2016 Round 1 APG grant requests

Hoi, The FDC provides recommendations to the WMF Board on the dissemination of funds. By adding the extra baggage, you make it a negative. The FDC recommends and it is responsible for that. The board does not have the bandwidth to do the work again. It relies on the recommendation and THEREFORE

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [GLAM] Video: "Wikipedia, an introduction - Erasmus Prize 2015"

Is this going to be released under a CC license? Would be awesome to have it on Commons. Arne Wossink Projectleider / Project Lead Wikimedia Nederland Tel. +31 (0)6 11000505 *Postadres*: * Bezoekadres:* Postbus 167

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [GLAM] Video: "Wikipedia, an introduction - Erasmus Prize 2015"

Just saw that it already has such a license. Arne Wossink Projectleider / Project Lead Wikimedia Nederland Tel. +31 (0)6 11000505 *Postadres*: * Bezoekadres:* Postbus 167Mariaplaats 3 3500 AD

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] FDC recommendations for 2015-2016 Round 1 APG grant requests

For historical reference: I felt that WMF made significant progress with the 2013-2014 budget by opening it to community review and FDC review. Then there was a significant regression with 2014-2015 both in terms of the review period and in terms of WMF's responsiveness to questions; some

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [GLAM] Video: "Wikipedia, an introduction - Erasmus Prize 2015"

Hoi, There was a real nice musical intermezzo, violin and piano. I spoke with the pianist and the violinist and they are happy when we use their music in our article(s) on the Erasmus prize :) Thanks, GerardM PS nothing formal was done, but it was said all the same :) On 26 November 2015 at

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [GLAM] Video: "Wikipedia, an introduction - Erasmus Prize 2015"

It's great :-) Aubrey On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 10:24 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > Hoi, > There was a real nice musical intermezzo, violin and piano. I spoke with > the pianist and the violinist and they are happy when we use their music in > our article(s) on the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [GLAM] Video: "Wikipedia, an introduction - Erasmus Prize 2015"

Did anyone get a close-up picture of the stradivarius? On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 10:24 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > Hoi, > There was a real nice musical intermezzo, violin and piano. I spoke with > the pianist and the violinist and they are happy when we use their

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] FDC recommendations for 2015-2016 Round 1 APG grant requests

On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 3:39 AM, Pine W wrote: > For historical reference: I felt that WMF made significant progress with > the 2013-2014 budget by opening it to community review and FDC review. I agree that there was a good trend that got reverted, as a result of dropping

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] FDC recommendations for 2015-2016 Round 1 APG grant requests

Hoi, Sorry but "The FDC provides recommendations to the WMF Board, who then decide on them. The FDC doesn't handle funds directly, so in no case does it withhold, or spend, funds, instead it recommends doing so to the WMF Board." qualify as weasel words. You make proposals and hope, expect that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] FDC recommendations for 2015-2016 Round 1 APG grant requests

No, this was a simple explanation of the facts of the limited authority of the FDC, not an attempt to weasel. Perhaps something was lost in translation? Fae On 26 Nov 2015 10:58, "Gerard Meijssen" wrote: > Hoi, > Sorry but "The FDC provides recommendations to the WMF

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] FDC recommendations for 2015-2016 Round 1 APG grant requests

Hoi, Some explanations simply read as weasel words. Nothing was lost in translation. You either have an opinion and you accept that people consider responsibility part of the parcel or you do not and that is in my opinion worse. It is not so bad to be wrong, it happens. It is worse to refuse to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] FDC recommendations for 2015-2016 Round 1 APG grant requests

I can't find something wrong with Pundit's argument based opinions and explanations. Kind regards Ziko 2015-11-26 12:33 GMT+01:00 Gerard Meijssen : > Hoi, > Some explanations simply read as weasel words. Nothing was lost in > translation. You either have an opinion and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Just to be sure: this is the location

On 2015-11-25 22:31, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote: On 2015-11-25 13:27, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: I don't remember such a... stately location since Library of Congress 2012 (though I didn't attend the recent Princess of Asturias event). בתאריך 25 בנוב׳ 2015 13:28,‏ "Romaine Wiki"

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] FDC recommendations for 2015-2016 Round 1 APG grant requests

Gerard, They don’t look like weasel words to me. How would you try to describe the FDC's role more accurately? Cheers, P -Original Message- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Gerard Meijssen Sent: Thursday, 26 November 2015 12:58 PM To:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] FDC recommendations for 2015-2016 Round 1 APG grant requests

Dariusz, without speaking on behalf of the FDC, and only my own opinion - I don't think the question is if the FDC will recommend how much money the WMF need to get - as the fact that if they will enter the FDC process, under the SAME requirements as other affiliates (the requirement for a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] FDC recommendations for 2015-2016 Round 1 APG grant requests

hi Itzik, the idea that we've been discussing for a while has been introducing a part of WMF budget ("non-core") into the FDC process. The whole is not viable for various reasons, but a part - sure. I also agree that the FDC may be a catalyst of introducing more transparency, better and SMARTer

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] FDC recommendations for 2015-2016 Round 1 APG grant requests

Thanks everyone - WMDE welcomes and follows with interest community discussions about our proposal, the relevance of Wikidata and the use of community funds. That's the beauty of a community reviewed process. However, statements asserting that we did not provide specific information force us to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [GLAM] Video: "Wikipedia, an introduction - Erasmus Prize 2015"

Really nice Video. Sadly some Wikipedia Zero-stuff was smuggled in at the end of the video which makes the whole thing propagating the violation of net neutrality. But it's under the right licence to edit this out and make the video usable also for people who care about free knowledge and net

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [GLAM] Video: "Wikipedia, an introduction - Erasmus Prize 2015"

Hoi, When you edit it out, you no longer represent why the Erasmus Foundation gave the Erasmus prize to our community. So edit it out and do appreciate that it no longer represents the reason why the award was given to us. It will be wrong even under the right license. Thanks, GerardM On

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [GLAM] Video: "Wikipedia, an introduction - Erasmus Prize 2015"

Nice try, GerardM, but I don't think that the Erasmus Prize was given to Wikipedia because some people in the Foundation made same questionable deals with some access providers in the Global South. Zero-Rating is a clear violation of the net neutrality principle and many NGOs in the Global South

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [GLAM] Video: "Wikipedia, an introduction - Erasmus Prize 2015"

On 2015-11-26 19:48, Jens Best wrote: Nice try, GerardM, but I don't think that the Erasmus Prize was given to Wikipedia because some people in the Foundation made same questionable deals with some access providers in the Global South. Zero-Rating is a clear violation of the net neutrality

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [GLAM] Video: "Wikipedia, an introduction - Erasmus Prize 2015"

Well, then this is a cheap success for the propaganda for a project started by the Foundation which has nothing to do with the community which is creating and editing the Wikipedia. - WP0 is a clear violation of net neutrality and therefore undermines the ground on which an open croudsourcing