Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who runs the Wikimedia Shop ?

On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 7:07 PM, John Mark Vandenberg wrote: > > Again as I recall, many chapters tried to negotiate amendments to that > prohibition, and I vaguely recall the French chapter being successful, > and I vaguely recall the Italian chapter being unsuccessful. > > I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who runs the Wikimedia Shop ?

Fascinating. My discussions with WMF Trademarks and WMF Fundraising lead me to think that they didn't know of the existence of these historical arrangements, because if they had I would think that they would have swiftly approved the license request for logo use on hats, modeled after the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who runs the Wikimedia Shop ?

On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 12:51 AM, Sam Klein wrote: >.. > On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 12:07 PM, John Mark Vandenberg > wrote: > >> >> IIRC, there were several affiliates that were previously running a >> store, and naturally supporting the most relevant

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia Zero mass effect on Wikimedia projects

Reminder: Wikipedia Zero is actually a very good thing. We are hoping to improve the quality and quantity of articles Mwaoshe Njemah, Siku Ya Wiki Project On 21 Mar 2016 09:58, "WereSpielChequers" wrote: > Is much of the problem about differing varieties of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open and recorded WMF Board meetings

It is good that you keep such track of the commitment. It would be nice if that were done in a more constructive fashion. You will often find me on your side when asking for more transparency. I do think that doing this in a more constructive way will be much more effective in the long run.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open and recorded WMF Board meetings

Hi Lodewijk, thanks for stepping in to rationalize Jimmy Wales' behaviour in the silence from WMF trustees or Jimmy. Last week Kolbe summarized the situation in an email as: "Walking away rewards and encourages the strategy that Jimmy has consciously or unconsciously applied here: tell people

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Scholarship Decline

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open and recorded WMF Board meetings

Let me rephrase that for you: Hey Jimmy, thanks for this commitment. I would definitely be interested. Were you successful in getting clarity? If we all would spend a tiny bit more effort on how we ask things and argue, the last would be more pleasant and people would probably be more tempted to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who runs the Wikimedia Shop ?

Hi Fae, Apologies for the length. I'll take your question into two parts: Firstly about how we use the funds. We are extremely explicit about how the proceeds are used: On the front of the store: *"We use the proceeds from the store to send thank you gifts to the volunteers who make Wikipedia

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who runs the Wikimedia Shop ?

The current practice, in my experience, is maximum red tape. Pine On Mar 22, 2016 10:52, "Sam Klein" wrote: > Having a shop that is run with low overhead by someone who specializes in > handling inventory and shipping, is a very good idea. I've had to do this > both

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who runs the Wikimedia Shop ?

Having a shop that is run with low overhead by someone who specializes in handling inventory and shipping, is a very good idea. I've had to do this both in-house and externally at a few organizations and when your shipping volume is as low as the WM Shop's currently is, it doesn't make sense to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who runs the Wikimedia Shop ?

I am having a very stretched out discussion, over the course literally of multiple years, to try to get approval from WMF to produce or aquire Wikipedia-branded hats. So far no trademark license has been granted. I have heard multiple times that the WMF store may get these hats, but after multiple

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who runs the Wikimedia Shop ?

On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 10:01 PM, Nathan wrote: > FWIW, it's clear that the trademark policy is intended to apply to users > other than the WMF. This is all a bit overblown, considering the tiny scale > of use and money involved. IIRC, there were several affiliates that were

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open and recorded WMF Board meetings

It's now Tuesday, so presumably Jimmy Wales' commitment to publish something by yesterday at the latest was met somewhere. Can anyone share a link to it? Thanks, Fae On 16 March 2016 at 17:58, Jimmy Wales wrote: > I think all will be clear by Monday. Maybe sooner,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who runs the Wikimedia Shop ?

FWIW, it's clear that the trademark policy is intended to apply to users other than the WMF. This is all a bit overblown, considering the tiny scale of use and money involved. On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 10:53 AM, Fæ wrote: > Tim, thanks for raising the Trademark Policy. > >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who runs the Wikimedia Shop ?

Tim, thanks for raising the Trademark Policy. Joseph, can you point me to where https://store.wikimedia.org explains exactly how much of the "donation" is profit going to WMF funds and how much is administration and costs (both supplier and WMF costs of administration)? My assumption is that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who runs the Wikimedia Shop ?

Hoi, With the same pragmatism a different scenario. If say a $20,- donation arrives and a T-shirt is send, * $12 basic transaction and product costs * $12 pro rata costs of having our "own" product to sell produce * 1,80 WMF administration costs * $5,80 loss on every T-shirt Thanks, GerardM

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who runs the Wikimedia Shop ?

Fæ wrote: >>> (I must admit that i tested the job a year ago, the product was fine, the >>> shipment fast. A bit expensive for my taste.) >> Expensive? The profit adds funds the WMF, surely. > This is a logical fallacy that many charities fall into, and end up > damaging

Re: [Wikimedia-l] FLOSS for operations equipment

I think there are two clear policies here: 1. The forkability of the projects 2. The "niceness" of suppliers. The first is a movement and project principle. The second is - loosely - connected to a broader movement. It is philosophically and morally dubious to coerce people to conform to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Scholarship Decline

I believe that Wikimania scholarships are one of the best uses of WMF funds. I would like to see more scholarships. If funds are a problem, then by all means have more scholarships for relatively local people - but frankly I don't think funds _are_ a problem. On 21/03/2016 14:00, Rodrigo

Re: [Wikimedia-l] FLOSS for operations equipment

On 2016-03-22 2:04 AM, James Salsman wrote: Are the FreeBSD-based pfSense C2758 series in the Foundation's throughput tier? [...] That looks like decent mid-range gear, but definitely not the the hardware-supported levels needed to support operations. What are the current Foundation

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who runs the Wikimedia Shop ?

On 22 March 2016 at 11:51, Gordon Joly wrote: > On 21/03/16 19:39, Steinsplitter Wiki wrote: >> (I must admit that i tested the job a year ago, the product was fine, the >> shipment fast. A bit expensive for my taste.) > > > Expensive? The profit adds funds the WMF,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who runs the Wikimedia Shop ?

On 21/03/16 19:39, Steinsplitter Wiki wrote: > (I must admit that i tested the job a year ago, the product was fine, the > shipment fast. A bit expensive for my taste.) Expensive? The profit adds funds the WMF, surely. Gordo ___ Wikimedia-l mailing

Re: [Wikimedia-l] FLOSS for operations equipment

Hoi, Given that a Google and Facebook are working on networking equipment and are making both hardware and associated freely available, it makes more sense to concentrate on this high end solution. A solution that fits with the need of WMF. Thanks, GerardM PS I am not so interested that I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] FLOSS for operations equipment

Le 22/03/2016 07:04, James Salsman a écrit : > >> >... as far as I know, high-end networking hardware is not >> > available with Libre OSes > Are the FreeBSD-based pfSense C2758 series in the Foundation's throughput > tier? > > https://www.pfsense.org/products/product-family.html#c2758 > >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] FLOSS for operations equipment

Marc A. Pelletier wrote: >... as far as I know, high-end networking hardware is not > available with Libre OSes Are the FreeBSD-based pfSense C2758 series in the Foundation's throughput tier? https://www.pfsense.org/products/product-family.html#c2758