[Wikimedia-l] Today at 1pm PDT: a talk about "From the Galaxy Zoo to Citizen Science Cyborgs"

2016-04-14 Thread Jan Gerlach
Dear all

I would like to invite you to watch a talk by Kevin Schawinski, an
astrophysicist from ETH Zurich and co-founder of citizen science platform
Galaxy Zoo, on April 14 at 1pm PDT (20mins from now).

In his talk “From the Galaxy Zoo to Citizen Science Cyborgs", Kevin will
talk about astronomic research, in which volunteers can participate and
contribute to identify galaxies, and new developments in citizen science.
These phenomena are very much aligned with Wikimedia values and showcase
the power of collaboration for knowledge. Kevin is an amazing scientist
with a deep understanding of collaborative systems as well as a great
interest in online participation. After his talk, he will answer questions
- mostly about citizen science but maybe also about supermassive black
holes. :)

Here are the remote options:

YouTube stream: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vX5-kI2XvWE
Jacob Rogers will be relaying questions from IRC in #wikimedia-office

Sorry about the late notice. The recording will be publicly available.

Jan

==


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[Wikimedia-l] "Microsoft Sues U.S. Over Orders Barring It From Revealing Surveillance"

2016-04-14 Thread Pine W
News developments from Seattle with some relation to the Wikimedia
Foundation's ongoing lawsuit against the NSA:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/15/technology/microsoft-sues-us-over-orders-barring-it-from-revealing-surveillance.html

Pine
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[Wikimedia-l] help, how much money goes to volunteers?

2016-04-14 Thread rupert THURNER
hi,

on the question how much money will go to volunteers next year,
katherine stated that the 2016 grants budget is 5.8 mio, out of 63 mio
[1]. my guess was that between 1 and 2 mio would go to volunteers.

i have a little difficulty to calculate the number. i saw the 2016 fdc
numbers [2], 5.5 mio. WMDE writes that the annual fundraising gives 84
mio usd (i.e. 75 mio eur) [3]. on the grants page i do not see numbers
[4]. the german community budget page does not list numbers. [5]. WMDE
writes that it pays 6 mio a year to WMF [6]. at the same time it gets
1.3 mio via FDC from WMF [7]. there is some indication about money to
volunteers in the FDC split up from WMDE [8].

my guess was that 0.5 mio usd are support for wikimania travel
including funds to make wikimania cheaper in genaral, and 0.5-1.5 mio
via various community projects (e.g. the one of WMDE), individual
engagement grants to volunteers, summing up to <2 mio usd a year
beeing paid to cover volunteers expenses.

can somebody please chime in here with better guesses, or real
numbers, maybe directly at [1]?

[1] 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Foundation_Annual_Plan/2016-2017/draft#money_distribution_to_volunteers
[2] 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_2016-17_FDC_budget_recommendation
[3] https://wikimedia.de/wiki/Factsheet#Daten.2C_Zahlen.2C_Fakten
[4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Start
[5] https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Community-Budget
[6] https://www.wikimedia.de/w/images.homepage/a/ad/Wmde_jb_2014_engl_web_RZ.pdf
[7] 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/FDC_recommendations/2015-2016_round_1
[8] 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/Proposals/2015-2016_round1/Wikimedia_Deutschland_e.V./Proposal_form

best
rupert

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] New Wikimedia Italy Board

2016-04-14 Thread Biplab Anand
Congratulation to all.


With best Ragrds
Biplab Anand

On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 11:04 PM, sailesh patnaik <
sailesh.patnaik...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Congratulations all ☺️
>
> On Wednesday 13 April 2016, Tito Dutta  wrote:
>
> > Congratulations and all the best :)
> >
> > On 13 April 2016 at 22:23, Mounir Touzri  > > wrote:
> >
> > > Congratulations مبروك 
> > > Le 13 avr. 2016 15:59, "Ginevra Sanvitale"  > > a
> > > écrit :
> > >
> > > > Dear all,
> > > > I'm glad to announce the new composition of Wikimedia Italy board:
> > > >
> > > > Board of Directors
> > > > *President: Lorenzo Losa [[User:Laurentius]]
> > > > *Vice-President: Cristian Consonni [[User:CristianCantoro]]
> > > > *Secretary: Ginevra Sanvitale [[User:Atropine]]
> > > > *Treasurer: Simone Cortesi [[User:Cortesi]]
> > > > *Programme Coordinator: Luca Martinelli [[User:Sannita]]
> > > >
> > > > Ombudspersons:
> > > > *Maurizio Codogno [[User:.mau.]]
> > > > *Roberto Corda [[User:DracoRoboter]]
> > > > *Iolanda Pensa [[User:Iopensa]]
> > > > *Francesco Carbonara [[User:Fcarbonara]] (stand-in)
> > > > *Giovanni Augulino [[User:Triquetra]] (stand-in)
> > > >
> > > > We would also like to thank the former ombudspersons Marina Milella
> and
> > > > Federico Cantoni, as well as Saverio Giulio Malatesta for his
> > candidacy.
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > > (and sorry for the double posting!)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Ginevra
> > > >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [recent changes]

2016-04-14 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi,
I do appreciate Denny. However, your notion that "we're lucky to have him"
flies in the face of him leaving the board. He now does no longer a COI
working at Google. Have you considered that he might have been more
worthwhile to us having remained on the board and having been more
outspoken even given this COI?
Thanks,
   GerardM

On 12 April 2016 at 11:07, Anthony Cole  wrote:

> Good points worth repeating, though, jytdog.
>
> We're learning as we go here. COI is notoriously difficult to anticipate
> and manage. None of us, that I'm aware of, thought about - or at least
> discussed - the implications of his Google role when he ran for the board,
> and when it became too onerous to manage, Denny had the wisdom to step
> away.
>
> He's an enormous asset to this movement; as I said, we're lucky to have
> him, and I'm very grateful for all he's contributed.
>
> Anthony Cole
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 4:44 PM, jytdog  wrote:
>
> > This is kind of frustrating.  Lila (speaking for the board) in her "Why
> we
> > changed
> > <
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Lila_Tretikov%27s_statement_on_Why_we%27ve_changed
> > >"
> > message, identified falling page views (creating a threat of falling
> > donation revenue) caused by folks like Google repurposing our content as
> an
> > "existential challenge".I am not sure I agree with that, but the WMF
> > Board and the former ED said that.  (Jimmy confirmed that on his Talk
> page,
> > too)
> >
> > The key thing about Denny's COI issues as they unfolded, is that he was
> > surprised and frustrated about the problems managing his COI ended up
> > causing - so much so that he quit.  That stuff actually happened.
> Debating
> > what his COI was or whether it mattered is really beside the point... and
> > all murky because whatever management plan was worked out - whatever
> areas
> > actually were identified as problematic - we do not know, as that plan
> > wasn't made public.
> >
> > Going forward, there should be a) a clear disclosure of relevant outside
> > interests and b) a pre-agreed COI management plan where those interests
> > conflict with a Trustee's obligations, before Trustees formally step into
> > the role.  What happened with Denny doesn't have to happen again.  That
> > seems to be the key issue looking forward.
> >
> > I'm repeating myself, and will stop now.
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 2:28 AM, Anthony Cole 
> wrote:
> >
> > > I agree with all of that, MZ. As to your questions:
> > >
> > > "Shouldn't we be applauding Google and others for helping us share our
> > > knowledge with the world?"
> > >
> > > Yes.
> > >
> > > "What size do you think the Wikimedia Foundation should be in terms of
> > > yearly
> > > budget and number of full-time employees? How much bigger or smaller
> > should
> > > the Wikimedia Foundation be than other Wikimedia chapters?"
> > >
> > > It depends on what we want them to do.
> > >
> > > "...are you sure that we're all agreed that this [Google impacting
> > > Wikipedia's
> > > page views and the ability to raise funds and recruit new volunteers]
> is
> > > problematic?"
> > >
> > > I'm less concerned than many, and I'm sure others are unconcerned.
> > >
> > > "If Google causes page views to go down and our sites are directly hit
> > > less frequently,
> > > that actually saves us money, doesn't it?"
> > >
> > > If our page views drop by 50% and this halves our fundraising
> capacity, I
> > > doubt that would be offset by the saved hosting costs. But I'm no
> expert
> > on
> > > these things.
> > >
> > >
> > > Anthony Cole
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 11:46 AM, MZMcBride  wrote:
> > >
> > > > Anthony Cole wrote:
> > > > >Google's "info boxes" and their answers at the top of their results,
> > > we're
> > > > >all agreed now, I think, are impacting Wikipedia's page views and,
> > > > >consequently, our ability to raise funds and recruit new volunteers.
> > > >
> > > > Google and others have a direct interest in their data being accurate
> > and
> > > > reliable. We already see that Google has a "report a correction"
> > feature
> > > > for some of its services. It's in both Wikimedia's interest and
> > re-users'
> > > > interest for the underlying data source to be update-to-date and
> > correct.
> > > >
> > > > Our mission is to spread free educational content to the world and we
> > > make
> > > > our data available for re-use for this purpose. Shouldn't we be
> > > applauding
> > > > Google and others for helping us share our knowledge with the world?
> > > >
> > > > As far as threats to direct-to-user fund-raising go, I'd put
> > > > organizational instability ahead of Google at the moment. The
> Wikimedia
> > > > Foundation has repeatedly been in the news lately for ongoing
> > management
> > > > issues, both in its executive team and in its board of trustees.
> > > >
> > > > What size do you think the Wikimedia 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] help, how much money goes to volunteers?

2016-04-14 Thread Gordon Joly
On 14/04/16 10:48, rupert THURNER wrote:
> can somebody please chime in here with better guesses, or real
> numbers, maybe directly at [1]?

On the other hand, has anybody considered the value of the total
volunteer effort towards the development of Wikipedia, Commons and
related projects? That is editing, software development, administration,
taking photographs etc.

In the UK, I believe that volunteer time is costed at about 15 US
dollars per hour (equivalent to 11 pounds?).

Answers on a postcard.

Gordo



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Re: [Wikimedia-l] New Wikimedia Italy Board

2016-04-14 Thread Moheen Reeyad
Congrats Wikimedia Italia! And welcome!

Best,
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On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 1:23 PM, Biplab Anand  wrote:

> Congratulation to all.
>
>
> With best Ragrds
> Biplab Anand
>
> On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 11:04 PM, sailesh patnaik <
> sailesh.patnaik...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Congratulations all ☺️
> >
> > On Wednesday 13 April 2016, Tito Dutta  wrote:
> >
> > > Congratulations and all the best :)
> > >
> > > On 13 April 2016 at 22:23, Mounir Touzri  > > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Congratulations مبروك 
> > > > Le 13 avr. 2016 15:59, "Ginevra Sanvitale"  > > > a
> > > > écrit :
> > > >
> > > > > Dear all,
> > > > > I'm glad to announce the new composition of Wikimedia Italy board:
> > > > >
> > > > > Board of Directors
> > > > > *President: Lorenzo Losa [[User:Laurentius]]
> > > > > *Vice-President: Cristian Consonni [[User:CristianCantoro]]
> > > > > *Secretary: Ginevra Sanvitale [[User:Atropine]]
> > > > > *Treasurer: Simone Cortesi [[User:Cortesi]]
> > > > > *Programme Coordinator: Luca Martinelli [[User:Sannita]]
> > > > >
> > > > > Ombudspersons:
> > > > > *Maurizio Codogno [[User:.mau.]]
> > > > > *Roberto Corda [[User:DracoRoboter]]
> > > > > *Iolanda Pensa [[User:Iopensa]]
> > > > > *Francesco Carbonara [[User:Fcarbonara]] (stand-in)
> > > > > *Giovanni Augulino [[User:Triquetra]] (stand-in)
> > > > >
> > > > > We would also like to thank the former ombudspersons Marina Milella
> > and
> > > > > Federico Cantoni, as well as Saverio Giulio Malatesta for his
> > > candidacy.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best,
> > > > > (and sorry for the double posting!)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Ginevra
> > > > >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] help, how much money goes to volunteers?

2016-04-14 Thread
I cannot answer your question, but I am unsure if numbers would mean
much unless large changes (like more than 20%) are indicated. Here's
why -

The key problem with working out how much of a volunteer fund goes to
volunteers, is that reports rarely separate out the money that is
nominally spent on 'volunteer projects' from the money that directly
funds a volunteer activity.

Based on past discussions and the experience of real cases, this means that:

1. Employees or contractors of the WMF or affiliated organizations may
use volunteer budgets for expenses, travel or scholarships if they
want to identify themselves as a volunteer in that context. For
example, many people funded as Wikimedians in Residence may have no
travel funding and will rely on a volunteer grant, or chapters may not
provide funds for employees to travel and contribute to events not
directly within their scope of employment.

2. A grant for a volunteer project may require reporting of outcomes
and specific evidence of some expenses, but there is a cost of
administering the grant before it gets granted, there are costs of
proposing the grant that may or may not be funded from other grants,
and there are costs of administration of the money and reporting on
it, while the project runs. In cases where this can be analysed, the
overhead costs are in the order of 20% to 50%. In some cases, the
end-to-end costs of administering a grant from the WMF, to a local
organization, and then to a specific project means that less than half
of the money going to a volunteer project was actually used by
volunteers to deliver a planned outcome.

It's a problem, and unclear reporting of administrative overheads
really does not help. Changes over the last couple of years to the way
the WMF and chapters work, means that overhead costs invariably move
from a central overhead charge, to being absorbed into project
budgets, making the end-to-end overhead/admin costs almost impossible
to deduce, unless detailed project time accounting and individual
expenses are made public (which is never going to happen). The end
result is that we cannot judge whether reports of reduced
administration costs, are due to a smart accounting change, or the
result of hard won meaningful improvements.

Fae

On 14 April 2016 at 10:48, rupert THURNER  wrote:
> hi,
>
> on the question how much money will go to volunteers next year,
> katherine stated that the 2016 grants budget is 5.8 mio, out of 63 mio
> [1]. my guess was that between 1 and 2 mio would go to volunteers.
>
> i have a little difficulty to calculate the number. i saw the 2016 fdc
> numbers [2], 5.5 mio. WMDE writes that the annual fundraising gives 84
> mio usd (i.e. 75 mio eur) [3]. on the grants page i do not see numbers
> [4]. the german community budget page does not list numbers. [5]. WMDE
> writes that it pays 6 mio a year to WMF [6]. at the same time it gets
> 1.3 mio via FDC from WMF [7]. there is some indication about money to
> volunteers in the FDC split up from WMDE [8].
>
> my guess was that 0.5 mio usd are support for wikimania travel
> including funds to make wikimania cheaper in genaral, and 0.5-1.5 mio
> via various community projects (e.g. the one of WMDE), individual
> engagement grants to volunteers, summing up to <2 mio usd a year
> beeing paid to cover volunteers expenses.
>
> can somebody please chime in here with better guesses, or real
> numbers, maybe directly at [1]?
>
> [1] 
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Foundation_Annual_Plan/2016-2017/draft#money_distribution_to_volunteers
> [2] 
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_2016-17_FDC_budget_recommendation
> [3] https://wikimedia.de/wiki/Factsheet#Daten.2C_Zahlen.2C_Fakten
> [4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Start
> [5] https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Community-Budget
> [6] 
> https://www.wikimedia.de/w/images.homepage/a/ad/Wmde_jb_2014_engl_web_RZ.pdf
> [7] 
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/FDC_recommendations/2015-2016_round_1
> [8] 
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/Proposals/2015-2016_round1/Wikimedia_Deutschland_e.V./Proposal_form
>
> best
> rupert
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] New Wikimedia Italy Board

2016-04-14 Thread Erica Litrenta
Congrats, WMIT.

Buon lavoro,

Elitre (WMF)


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Dear all,
I'm glad to announce the new composition of Wikimedia Italy board:

Board of Directors
*President: Lorenzo Losa [[User:Laurentius]]
*Vice-President: Cristian Consonni [[User:CristianCantoro]]
*Secretary: Ginevra Sanvitale [[User:Atropine]]
*Treasurer: Simone Cortesi [[User:Cortesi]]
*Programme Coordinator: Luca Martinelli [[User:Sannita]]

Ombudspersons:
*Maurizio Codogno [[User:.mau.]]
*Roberto Corda [[User:DracoRoboter]]
*Iolanda Pensa [[User:Iopensa]]
*Francesco Carbonara [[User:Fcarbonara]] (stand-in)
*Giovanni Augulino [[User:Triquetra]] (stand-in)

We would also like to thank the former ombudspersons Marina Milella and
Federico Cantoni, as well as Saverio Giulio Malatesta for his candidacy.

Best,
(and sorry for the double posting!)


Ginevra




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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia Zero mass effect on Wikimedia projects

2016-04-14 Thread Bodhisattwa Mandal
Hi,

Angola is not alone. Bangladesh also started the practice. :-P Now there is
a good number of Facebook groups and pages to do this kind of piracy
related works through Commons.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:NahidSultan/Bangladesh_Facebook_Case

They are even creating manuals in different Facebook groups on how to
download movies even if get blocked by admins.
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https://www.facebook.com/groups/1683585148563391/permalink/1695000264088546/
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https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1173773462655208=1036981463001076

Phabricator link to deal with this -
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T129845

Regards,
Bodhisattwa

On 28 March 2016 at 03:30, David Emrany  wrote:

> Dear Teles
>
> I am exercising my right of reply, anticipating that.a list mod may
> censor it or delay it till it is infructuous
>
> You are imposing "modern" 1st world standards on these poor people.
> Many I remind you to remember how many 1st world Commons bureaucrats
> and admins were doing something similar / identical [1] only a few
> years ago at Commons.Do we collectively recall how many years.it took
> to ban them and delete their files ?
>
> So give these Angolans time and respectfully equitably treat them as
> unequals when you deal with them.
>
> Dave
>
> [1] http://www.britannica.com/topic/Wikipedia
> " .. in 2010 it was revealed that there was a cache of pornographic
> images, including illegal depictions of sexual acts involving
> children, on Wikimedia Commons, a site maintained by the Wikimedia
> Foundation that served as a repository of media files for use in all
> Wikimedia products."
>
> On 3/26/16, Lucas Teles  wrote:
> > Yeah, I am definitely watching users that violate any Wikimedia project
> and
> > I talk about it with other users publicly. What should be done different?
> > Should we let this users go and ignore they are violating important
> rules?
> > I will be paying atention to suggestions. And trying to do something
> > different is the reason I created this thread. I am pretty sure that the
> > regular measures won't be enough. I would never blame regular editors
> > though. That would be too much easy and counterproductive.
> >
> > Yeah, Wikipedia Zero is a good thing. That goes without saying. And I am
> > not saying that because I expect something in return from the users of
> > Wikipedia Zero. I actually don't think many of them will improve wiki as
> > they use cellphones to edit and there is not yet an app for easily
> editing.
> > Other than reading, doing anything else on cellphone is too much painful.
> > The best thing of WP Zero is that it *provides* information for too many
> > people in need.
> >
> > Teles
> >
> > Em quinta-feira, 24 de março de 2016, Gerard Meijssen <
> > gerard.meijs...@gmail.com> escreveu:
> >
> >> Hoi,
> >> So what are you saying? It is ok for people to do dastardly things and
> >> abuse Commons and it is even worse when people at Commons use the
> >> environment they know, the Internet, to do some research and expose what
> >> they find?
> >>
> >> Really? And I must be impressed when Mr Kolbe asks attention for it??
> >> Because what! It a Dutch proverb the best sailors are ashore. The same
> can
> >> be said by Mr Kolbe who is proficient in telling other people what to do
> >> and why he objects. That is his prerogative as it is mine to be
> >> underwhelmed.
> >>
> >> Be serious. When issues arise, we may work towards an understanding and
> a
> >> solution and sometimes hands get dirty. I will always support people who
> >> actually make a meaningful difference over people who cannot be faulted.
> >> Mistakes are made and when that is a problem go elsewhere. When there
> is a
> >> meaningful discussion anything is on the cards. So far this is not one.
> >> Thanks,
> >>GerarddM
> >>
> >> On 24 March 2016 at 09:04, David Emrany  >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> > Dear Gerard
> >> >
> >> > Correspondingly, what I find unconscionable for us is that a small
> >> > group of Commons editors /admins congregated on the talk page of
> >> > 'Teles' and discussed how to secretly spy on these new Zeropaid
> >> > enabled editors and monitor their Facebook-basic pages [1], [2].
> >> >
> >> > IMO had this been more widely discussed at Commons seeking solutions,
> >> > we would not be seeing unfortunate news articles like the one Andreas
> >> > Kolbe has linked to
> >> >
> >> > Regards
> >> >
> >> > Dave
> >> >
> >> > [1]
> >> >
> >>
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ATeles=revision=168565809=168565337=en
> >> >
> >> > [2]
> >> >
> >>
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Teles/Angola_Facebook_Case=168514640
> >> >
> >> > On 3/20/16, Gerard Meijssen  >
> >> wrote:
> >> > > Hoi,
> >> > > Realistically. Wikipedia is very much an enabler.
> >> > >
> >> > > Your ease to consider "simply" disabling mobile edits or