Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Affiliates] Changes to current chapter and thematic organisation criteria

2016-08-20 Thread Pine W
> What harm is avoided by eliminating the ambiguity you refer to, Pine?

One of the harms is that aspiring chapters don't know what standards we
should be aiming to meet, because the standards are vague. Another
harm is that the Affiliations Committee doesn't have clear criteria to
apply,
which means that decisions are likely to be more subjective and
inconsistent than the decisions would be if there was a more specific
set of criteria.

As I mentioned in my previous email, I feel that it's okay to have some
flexibility in the requirements, such as by saying "a chapter must meet
four of
the following six criteria" or "this particular requirement may be met in
one
or more of the following ways". But those flexible criteria should be
clearly
defined.

> How is that damage ameliorated by, as you suggest, re-classifying
> a chapter as a user group?

I feel that this is a separate issue. There should be no privilege attached
to
already being a chapter. It is unfair to apply one set of criteria to
existing
chapters, and a much tighter set of criteria to aspiring chapters. Chapter
status should be linked with a substantial level of current or recent
activity
in Wikimedia.

Chapter activity levels may decrease for many reasons, some of which
are beyond their control, such as if a fire breaks out in their office, or
if an
especially strong community organizer leaves the country. If such things
happen and the activity level or membership level of the organization
decrease, it is reasonable (if not desirable) to have the organization,
which
now would resemble a user group rather than a chapter, actually be
categorized as a user group until the organization recovers. I would call
this
"truth in advertising". It's not comfortable, but it is the reality, and it
would give the group a strong incentive to re-energize itself and return its
levels of membership and activity to the levels that it once had, rather
than
allowing it to keep the privileges of chapter status with few of the
responsibilities and expectations.

Pine
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Affiliates] Changes to current chapter and thematic organisation criteria

2016-08-20 Thread Nathan
On Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 9:20 PM, Pine W  wrote:

> Hi Carlos,
>
> As I mentioned previously, I would suggest that the criteria should also
> apply to existing chapters. If any chapter's status is in doubt as a result
> of the new criteria, then the chapter can be given 6 months to rise to the
> occasion. If chapters still do not meet the new criteria after that time,
> it seems to me that they should be re-classified as user groups until they
> re-apply for chapter status and are accepted by AffCom as meeting the new
> criteria.
>
> Regarding the uniformity of standards, it seems to me that there needs to
> be a common baseline throughout the world. Otherwise, the definition of
> "chapter" becomes highly subjective and is effectively at the discretion of
> the Affiliations Committee. To use an analogy: a hospital that is providing
> reasonably good care for its patients would be considered a good hospital
> whether it is in Louisiana or the Philippines. Likewise, a hospital that
> lacks essential supplies, has a shortage of health professionals, and has
> suffered hurricane damage to its surgery rooms, is a troubled hospital
> whether it is in Louisiana or the Philippines.
>
> To use another analogy, this time demonstrating the problems with
> subjective and varying standards: the criteria for high school diplomas in
> the United States vary so widely that by itself a high school diploma is a
> nearly useless credential without knowing which high school granted a
> particular diploma. It seems to me that we should avoid this kind of
> ambiguity in the Wikimedia community.
>
> While there could be a variety of ways in which a group could be deemed to
> meet the standards for a chapter, such as by saying "a chapter must meet
> four of the following six criteria" or "this particular requirement may be
> met in one or more of the following ways", it still seems to me that the
> criteria for chapter status should be transparent, objective (primarily
> quantitative), and easily understood by all affiliates that wish to be
> chapters.
>
> I realize that this is a complex issue, and I hope that this input will be
> included for consideration as AffCom continues to discuss the criteria for
> chapters and thematic organizations.
>
> Pine
>


What harm is avoided by eliminating the ambiguity you refer to, Pine? How
is the Wikimedia movement damaged by having chapters which may not
universally meet precise quantitative measurements of activity or other
criteria? How is that damage ameliorated by, as you suggest, re-classifying
a chapter as a user group?
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Affiliates] Changes to current chapter and thematic organisation criteria

2016-08-20 Thread Carlos M. Colina

Hello Lane,

The proposed criteria will apply to new organizations. However, we 
should all help all affiliates to operate at higher standards, and we're 
willing and happy to assist with anything  affiliates need to grow :-)



El 19/08/2016 a las 05:51 p.m., Lane Rasberry escribió:

Hello,

Do these criteria apply to existing groups? Maybe I misunderstand, but from
this proposal it sounds like new groups will be held to significantly
higher standards than any currently recognized organizations. Is that the
case?

yours,


On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 8:36 AM, Carlos M. Colina 
wrote:


Dear all,

On behalf of the Affiliations Committee, I would like to present some
changes to the current chapter and thematic organisation criteria, which we
will begin piloting as we officially reopen applications for chapter and
thematic organization status. Until now, the criteria had not clearly
defined what constitutes sufficient programmatic activity to justify
chapter or thematic organisation status. To address this issue, we have set
out three new criteria:

1. Diversity of Activities: Chapters and thematic organisations are
expected to plan and conduct a variety of different programs and events; to
balance online and offline projects; to strive for continuous activity; and
to conduct programs and events at least once every two months.
2. Planning and Evaluation: Chapters and thematic organisations are
expected to set specific goals and targets for programs, projects, and
events before executing them; to measure the results of programs, projects,
and events against those targets; and to report on those results to the
Wikimedia Foundation and the wider Wikimedia movement.
3. External Partnerships: Chapters and thematic organisations are
expected to engage in programmatic partnerships with external groups and
organizations (for example, cultural, academic, or government institutions,
and so on) to promote the Wikimedia movement and to add and improve content
on Wikimedia projects.

In order to officially reopen the chapter and thematic organization
recognition process, the Board of Trustees has instructed the Affiliations
Committee to provisionally use these three new criteria for all new
applicants. In addition, potential chapters and thematic organisations will
continue to be assessed against the existing legal, governance, and
viability criteria; more details, including the benefits and limitations of
these affiliation models, are available on Meta.[1] [2]

Please note that the use of these three new criteria is a pilot; there
will be opportunities to share feedback about the criteria, as well as
other ways to help define the chapter and thematic organisation affiliate
models, during the upcoming strategy consultation. The Affiliations
Committee and the Board of Trustees will continue to evaluate results and
feedback during the initial pilot period and consider potential revisions
to the criteria before they are finalized.

Thank you,
M.

1: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/
Chapter_Summary_Matrix
2: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/
Thematic_Organisation_Summary_Matrix
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junain ekerolaa alümüin supüshuwayale etijaanaka. Ayatashi waya junain."
Carlos M. Colina
Socio, A.C. Wikimedia Venezuela | RIF J-40129321-2 | www.wikimedia.org.ve

Chair, Wikimedia Foundation Affiliations Committee
Phone: +972-52-4869915
Twitter: @maor_x

El logotipo y el nombre de Wikimedia, Wikimedia Venezuela
, Wikipedia,
Wikimedia Commons, Wikimedia Incubator, Wiktionary y otros proyectos
relacionados  son
marcas registradas usadas bajo permiso expreso de su titular, la Fundación
Wikimedia, Inc. , una organización
sin fines de lucro. Otros nombres y marcas pertenecen a sus respectivos
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junain ekerolaa alümüin supüshuwayale etijaanaka. Ayatashi waya junain."

Carlos M. Colina
Socio, A.C. Wikimedia Venezuela | RIF J-40129321-2 | 
www.wikimedia.org.ve 

Chair, Wikimedia Foundation Affiliations Committee
Phone: +972-52-4869915
Twitter: @maor_x

El logotipo y el nombre de Wikimedia, Wikimedia Venezuela, Wikipedia, Wikimedia 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Affiliates] Changes to current chapter and thematic organisation criteria

2016-08-20 Thread Carlos M. Colina

Hello Pine,


El 19/08/2016 a las 06:28 p.m., Pine W escribió:

Hi Carlos,

In general, I like the new criteria.

I would like to suggest making the criteria entirely quantitative, so that
there is minimal subjectivity about whether or not affiliates are meeting
these standards and therefore there is likely to be less controversy about
the status of affiliates.


The problem of  making the criteria entirely quantitative is that the 
context where affiliates operate is not the same across the world. We 
cannot apply a rigid, based in fixed numbers criteria because the 
situation of Estonia or The Netherlands, to give an example, is not the 
same of Venezuela, where people need to queue for hours just to buy a 
loaf of bread, if they happen to be lucky enough to find a bakery 
operating, or where scheduled 4-hour daily blackouts are the norm across 
the country except for the capital.


If all affiliates operated in the same conditions, that would be another 
story.


On Aug 19, 2016 05:36, "Carlos M. Colina"  wrote:


Dear all,

On behalf of the Affiliations Committee, I would like to present some
changes to the current chapter and thematic organisation criteria, which we
will begin piloting as we officially reopen applications for chapter and
thematic organization status. Until now, the criteria had not clearly
defined what constitutes sufficient programmatic activity to justify
chapter or thematic organisation status. To address this issue, we have set
out three new criteria:

1. Diversity of Activities: Chapters and thematic organisations are
expected to plan and conduct a variety of different programs and events; to
balance online and offline projects; to strive for continuous activity; and
to conduct programs and events at least once every two months.
2. Planning and Evaluation: Chapters and thematic organisations are
expected to set specific goals and targets for programs, projects, and
events before executing them; to measure the results of programs, projects,
and events against those targets; and to report on those results to the
Wikimedia Foundation and the wider Wikimedia movement.
3. External Partnerships: Chapters and thematic organisations are
expected to engage in programmatic partnerships with external groups and
organizations (for example, cultural, academic, or government institutions,
and so on) to promote the Wikimedia movement and to add and improve content
on Wikimedia projects.

In order to officially reopen the chapter and thematic organization
recognition process, the Board of Trustees has instructed the Affiliations
Committee to provisionally use these three new criteria for all new
applicants. In addition, potential chapters and thematic organisations will
continue to be assessed against the existing legal, governance, and
viability criteria; more details, including the benefits and limitations of
these affiliation models, are available on Meta.[1] [2]

Please note that the use of these three new criteria is a pilot; there
will be opportunities to share feedback about the criteria, as well as
other ways to help define the chapter and thematic organisation affiliate
models, during the upcoming strategy consultation. The Affiliations
Committee and the Board of Trustees will continue to evaluate results and
feedback during the initial pilot period and consider potential revisions
to the criteria before they are finalized.

Thank you,
M.

1: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/
Chapter_Summary_Matrix
2: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/
Thematic_Organisation_Summary_Matrix
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"*Jülüjain wane mmakat* ein kapülain tü alijunakalirua jee wayuukanairua
junain ekerolaa alümüin supüshuwayale etijaanaka. Ayatashi waya junain."
Carlos M. Colina
Socio, A.C. Wikimedia Venezuela | RIF J-40129321-2 | www.wikimedia.org.ve

Chair, Wikimedia Foundation Affiliations Committee
Phone: +972-52-4869915
Twitter: @maor_x

El logotipo y el nombre de Wikimedia, Wikimedia Venezuela
, Wikipedia,
Wikimedia Commons, Wikimedia Incubator, Wiktionary y otros proyectos
relacionados  son
marcas registradas usadas bajo permiso expreso de su titular, la Fundación
Wikimedia, Inc. , una organización
sin fines de lucro. Otros nombres y marcas pertenecen a sus respectivos
propietarios.

Asociación Civil Wikimedia Venezuela (Wikimedia Venezuela) | RIF.:
J-40129321-2 | Los Teques, Estado Miranda. Venezuela
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Affiliates] Changes to current chapter and thematic organisation criteria

2016-08-20 Thread Jonathan Cardy
Just one small point, "and to conduct programs and events at least once every 
two months" reads like a rule set by Americans who deliberately or otherwise 
don't want too much emphasis on the education program.

Most western countries have remuneration packages that put more emphasis  on 
holiday time than the USA, and in some countries there is a month of the year 
when only an expat would try to organise things. In such countries the two 
month rule imposes an unnatural focus on the fortnights adjacent to the 
shutdown.

I suspect any chapter that took a strategy of mostly focussing events on the 
education sector would also have difficulties melding that two month limitation 
with the academic year.

There is also the issue that not all events are of equal value to the movement, 
and I say that a one of the de facto hosts of the London meetup ( If we were a 
chapter Wikimedia London would have no problem with that particular  rule as 
our meetups are monthly).

Regards

WereSpielChequers 


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] FW: My final email

2016-08-20 Thread Craig Franklin
Hi Caitlin,

I know you've already answered Peter's original question, but are you able
to answer John's question as well?

Cheers,
Craig Franklin

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