Re: [Wikimedia-l] Launch of translation drive #16WikiWomen

[Olatunde Isaac]

Hi Romaine,

Thanks for your comment but I think category like this is not uncommon on 
Wikimedia projects. We often use it for maintenance and navigation (as you have 
correctly noted above) and not as part of the encyclopedia. It is different 
from content category. Thus, we don't include it on content categories. We use 
it to track the number of articles created as part of a project/contest as well 
as the number of participants. 

Let's look at it this way; If I'm participating in 16WikiWomen translation 
project for example, and I did not include my username on the list of 
participants on meta, there is no way the organizers would have known that I'm 
a participant and any article I translate as part of the project would be 
considered as a routine contribution.

Measure of success is important in every project and I think the 16WikiWomen 
organizers would be interested in knowing the number of articles translated and 
the number of participants, to measure the success of their project.

If there is something like "Category:16WikiWomen" for example, they could visit 
each language Wikipedia they listed on the project page and search for the 
category. This would show the number of articles translated and the translators 
(participants).

"Category:Women footballers" - to check for women footballers or number of 
women footballers. 

"Category:16WikiWomen" - to check for the number of articles translated or the 
number of translator.

The two above illustrative categories have different scope.

Please, correct me if I am wrong.


Best,

Isaac
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-Original Message-
From: Romaine Wiki 
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2017 23:46:12 
To: ; Wikimedia Mailing 
List
Cc: Florence Devouard
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Launch of translation drive #16WikiWomen

Why using a category?

Categories are especially useful for navigation purposes or maintenance. A
category here seems useless.

The only categories that are useful are the ones for categorising women in
various ways like profession, country, etc. I hope that kind of categories
can be filled with many articles about women in Africa.

Romaine

2017-02-20 22:11 GMT+01:00 Olatunde Isaac :

> Hi Flo,
>
> I am curious, is there a category we could place articles translated as
> part of 16 WikiWomen?
>
> Best,
>
> Isaac.
> Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld from Glo Mobile.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Florence Devouard 
> Sender: "Wikimedia-l" 
> Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2017 11:10:52
> To: 
> Reply-To: Wikimedia Mailing List 
> Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Launch of translation drive #16WikiWomen
>
> In the run up to International Women’s Day on the 8th March, Wiki Loves
> Women is launching the on-Wikipedia translation drive #16WikiWomen.
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/16_African_Women_Translate-a-thon
>
> The idea is for Wikipedians to take 16 days to make translate the
> Wikipedia biographies on 16 notable African women, into at least 16
> languages (African or international languages).
>
> The articles to be translated will be the biographies of African women.
> The list of language can be, but is not limited to:
> * International languages: Arabic, English, French, Spanish, Portuguese,
> Mandarin, German
> * African languages: Akan, Afrikaans, Igbo, Hausa, Wolof, Tswana, Zulu,
> Xhosa, Shona, Swahili, Yoruba, Sudanese, Amharic, Tsonga, Ewe, Sesotho,
> Chichewa
>
> The list of the 16 women biographies that will be translated are:
> * Malouma, a Mauritanian singer, songwriter and politician
> * Nozizwe Madlala-Routledge, a South African politician. The best
> initial version was in French
> * Cri-Zelda Brits, a South African cricketer
> * Anna Tibaijuka, a Tanzanian politician and former
> under-secretary-general of the United Nations
> * Funmilayo Ransome-Kuti, a Nigerian women’s rights activist
> * Flora Nwapa, a Nigerian author who writes predominantly in Igbo
> * Samia Yusuf Omar, Sprinter from Somalia
> * Maggie Laubser, a South African painter
> * Fatima Massaquoi, a pioneering educator from Liberia
> * Frances Ames, a South African neurologist, psychiatrist, and human
> rights activist
> * Asmaa Mahfouz, a Egyptian activist. The best version is currently in
> Arabic
> * Yaa Asantewaa, the legendary former Queen Mother of Ghana
> * Fatou Bensouda, a Gambian lawyer
> * Martha Karua, a Kenyan politician
> * Chinwendu Ihezuo, a Nigerian professional footballer
> * Nassima Saifi, a Paralympian athlete from Algeria
>
> Please jump in ! And help relay this message accross communities !
>
>
> If you wish to participate, please feel free to add your name and any
> comments here :
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/16_African_Women_
> 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Launch of translation drive #16WikiWomen

[Romaine Wiki]

Why using a category?

Categories are especially useful for navigation purposes or maintenance. A
category here seems useless.

The only categories that are useful are the ones for categorising women in
various ways like profession, country, etc. I hope that kind of categories
can be filled with many articles about women in Africa.

Romaine

2017-02-20 22:11 GMT+01:00 Olatunde Isaac :

> Hi Flo,
>
> I am curious, is there a category we could place articles translated as
> part of 16 WikiWomen?
>
> Best,
>
> Isaac.
> Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld from Glo Mobile.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Florence Devouard 
> Sender: "Wikimedia-l" 
> Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2017 11:10:52
> To: 
> Reply-To: Wikimedia Mailing List 
> Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Launch of translation drive #16WikiWomen
>
> In the run up to International Women’s Day on the 8th March, Wiki Loves
> Women is launching the on-Wikipedia translation drive #16WikiWomen.
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/16_African_Women_Translate-a-thon
>
> The idea is for Wikipedians to take 16 days to make translate the
> Wikipedia biographies on 16 notable African women, into at least 16
> languages (African or international languages).
>
> The articles to be translated will be the biographies of African women.
> The list of language can be, but is not limited to:
> * International languages: Arabic, English, French, Spanish, Portuguese,
> Mandarin, German
> * African languages: Akan, Afrikaans, Igbo, Hausa, Wolof, Tswana, Zulu,
> Xhosa, Shona, Swahili, Yoruba, Sudanese, Amharic, Tsonga, Ewe, Sesotho,
> Chichewa
>
> The list of the 16 women biographies that will be translated are:
> * Malouma, a Mauritanian singer, songwriter and politician
> * Nozizwe Madlala-Routledge, a South African politician. The best
> initial version was in French
> * Cri-Zelda Brits, a South African cricketer
> * Anna Tibaijuka, a Tanzanian politician and former
> under-secretary-general of the United Nations
> * Funmilayo Ransome-Kuti, a Nigerian women’s rights activist
> * Flora Nwapa, a Nigerian author who writes predominantly in Igbo
> * Samia Yusuf Omar, Sprinter from Somalia
> * Maggie Laubser, a South African painter
> * Fatima Massaquoi, a pioneering educator from Liberia
> * Frances Ames, a South African neurologist, psychiatrist, and human
> rights activist
> * Asmaa Mahfouz, a Egyptian activist. The best version is currently in
> Arabic
> * Yaa Asantewaa, the legendary former Queen Mother of Ghana
> * Fatou Bensouda, a Gambian lawyer
> * Martha Karua, a Kenyan politician
> * Chinwendu Ihezuo, a Nigerian professional footballer
> * Nassima Saifi, a Paralympian athlete from Algeria
>
> Please jump in ! And help relay this message accross communities !
>
>
> If you wish to participate, please feel free to add your name and any
> comments here :
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/16_African_Women_
> Translate-a-thon/participants
>
> Results will be tracked on this page :
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/16_African_Women_Translate-a-thon/tracking
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Very good news!

[WereSpielChequers]

Hi Milos, You might want to read this signpost article from 2015

that talked about the rally in very active editors from EN wiki's 2014
nadir. Another interesting measure of the rally, *Time between ten million
edits * was
hitting 73 days in late 2014 and is now back down to about 60.

Of course what we don't know is how much of the perceived decline was down
to the edit filters and therefore how much of the increase in the last
couple of years is simply because the easy wins for edit filters have been
achieved; Or how much of the decline was due to the rise of smartphones and
tablets where Wikipedia is much more of a broadcast medium with
comparatively few editors.


Jonathan/WereSpielChequers


Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2017 03:32:24 +0100
> From: Milos Rancic 
> To: Wikimedia Mailing List 
> Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Very good news!
> Message-ID:
>  gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> This is an extraordinary news for us! For almost 10 years I was hoping
> to see that and, finally, I've seen it!
>
> In short, it seems that we reached the bottom in participation in 2014
> and that we are now slowly going upwards.
>
> My claim is based on the analysis [1] of the Eric Zachte's
> participation statistics on English Wikipedia [2], but I am almost
> sure that the rest of the projects more or less mirror it. But,
> anyway, I encourage others to check other projects and other relevant
> factors and see if their results correlate with what I have found. The
> reasons for the change in trends should be also detected.
>
> If we are looking Eric's statistics from 2010 onwards, it is not
> immediately obvious if we are going up or down. We reached the peak in
> 2007 (German Wikipedia somewhat earlier, other projects later, but
> English Wikipedia is approximately 50% of our activity and its weight
> is too strong for other projects to balance our overall activity).
> After that peak, we went down as quickly as we reached the peak. Then,
> in 2010, the trends flattened.
>
> However, it was not a stagnation, but barely visible recession.
> However, that "barely visible recession" removed approximately 20% of
> the very active editors in the period from 2010 to 2014, while the
> "visible one" -- from 2007 to 2010 -- was also approximately 20%. At
> that point of time, in 2014, the next 10 years would for sure drive
> Wikipedia and Wikimedia movement into insignificance.
>
> Comparing such data is also tricky. It's not just necessary to compare
> the same months (January 2010 with January 2011, 2012 etc.), but there
> could be "freak" months, which are not following general trends.
>
> That's why I used two methods: One is coloring the months by place in
> comparison to the months of the previous years. The other is average
> number per year.
>
> There are at least a couple of important conclusions:
>
> 1) Negative trends have been reversed.
>
> 2) Both 2015 and 2016 were not just better than 2013 and 2014, but
> even better than 2012, while 2016 is just a little bit worse than
> 2011!
>
> 3) December 2016 was even better than December 2010!
>
> 4) I could guess that the period June-November 2016 was worse than the
> same period in 2015 because of the political turbulence. Without them
> -- as May and December 2016 likely show -- 2016 would be not just
> better, but much better than 2015 and maybe even better than 2010.
>
> I would say that the reversal is still fragile and that we should do
> whatever we've been doing the last two years. Yes, detecting what
> we've been doing good (or bad) is not that easy to detect. But, yes,
> better analysis of all of all of the processes should be definitely
> done.
>
> I hope that this shows that we are at the beginning of our
> Renaissance, Wikimedia Renaissance and that the Dark Wikimedia Age is
> behind us! So, please join me in enjoying that fact, even I could be
> wrong. It definitely sounds definitely amazing, even it could be just
> my imagination! :)
>
> [1] https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1IXYoTI_nCBhhuJAknH5KL450_
> D3V67KWTHuoEAh6540/edit?usp=sharing
> [2] https://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/ChartsWikipediaEN.htm
>
> --
> Milos
>
>
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Launch of translation drive #16WikiWomen

[Olatunde Isaac]

Hi Flo,

I am curious, is there a category we could place articles translated as part of 
16 WikiWomen? 

Best,

Isaac.
Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld from Glo Mobile.

-Original Message-
From: Florence Devouard 
Sender: "Wikimedia-l" 
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2017 11:10:52 
To: 
Reply-To: Wikimedia Mailing List 
Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Launch of translation drive #16WikiWomen

In the run up to International Women’s Day on the 8th March, Wiki Loves 
Women is launching the on-Wikipedia translation drive #16WikiWomen.

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/16_African_Women_Translate-a-thon

The idea is for Wikipedians to take 16 days to make translate the 
Wikipedia biographies on 16 notable African women, into at least 16 
languages (African or international languages).

The articles to be translated will be the biographies of African women. 
The list of language can be, but is not limited to:
* International languages: Arabic, English, French, Spanish, Portuguese, 
Mandarin, German
* African languages: Akan, Afrikaans, Igbo, Hausa, Wolof, Tswana, Zulu, 
Xhosa, Shona, Swahili, Yoruba, Sudanese, Amharic, Tsonga, Ewe, Sesotho, 
Chichewa

The list of the 16 women biographies that will be translated are:
* Malouma, a Mauritanian singer, songwriter and politician
* Nozizwe Madlala-Routledge, a South African politician. The best 
initial version was in French
* Cri-Zelda Brits, a South African cricketer
* Anna Tibaijuka, a Tanzanian politician and former 
under-secretary-general of the United Nations
* Funmilayo Ransome-Kuti, a Nigerian women’s rights activist
* Flora Nwapa, a Nigerian author who writes predominantly in Igbo
* Samia Yusuf Omar, Sprinter from Somalia
* Maggie Laubser, a South African painter
* Fatima Massaquoi, a pioneering educator from Liberia
* Frances Ames, a South African neurologist, psychiatrist, and human 
rights activist
* Asmaa Mahfouz, a Egyptian activist. The best version is currently in 
Arabic
* Yaa Asantewaa, the legendary former Queen Mother of Ghana
* Fatou Bensouda, a Gambian lawyer
* Martha Karua, a Kenyan politician
* Chinwendu Ihezuo, a Nigerian professional footballer
* Nassima Saifi, a Paralympian athlete from Algeria

Please jump in ! And help relay this message accross communities !


If you wish to participate, please feel free to add your name and any 
comments here : 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/16_African_Women_Translate-a-thon/participants

Results will be tracked on this page : 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/16_African_Women_Translate-a-thon/tracking




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Re: [Wikimedia-l] documentaries about Wikipedia

[Orsolya Gyenes]

A short documentary about how Wikipedia is used as an educational tool in
3rd world countries:

Web:La Selva on Daily Motion.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xby2uj_web-la-selva_tech

Wish it was available on Commons...

*~Orsolya*

2017-01-16 14:24 GMT+01:00 Mardetanha :

> I also find this
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Truth_According_to_Wikipedia on youtube
> which is also good fit for our purpose, The video is available on  on
> youtube but the best quality is 480 which is not best for screen play, I
> wonder if any one you have access to better quality of this video.
> Thanks for your help
>
> *https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMSinyx_Ab0
>
> Mardetanha
>
> On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 9:10 PM, Mardetanha 
> wrote:
>
> > Thanks again everyone
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 7:44 PM Lodewijk 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> There's also this movie made because of the Erasmusprize:
> >>
> >> https://archive.org/details/videoeditserver-129
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> It's quite short though (9min), so not sure if it fits your purpose.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Lodewijk
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 2016-12-13 2:00 GMT+01:00 Joseph Fox :
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > There's the GLAM-Wiki documentary that Rock drum and I put together
> >> back in
> >>
> >> > 2013 with the support of Wikimedia UK:
> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlNT16gqHyo
> >>
> >> > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:The_GLAM-Wiki_Revolution.webm
> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >> > It has translatable subtitles in a bunch of languages too :)
> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >> > best,
> >>
> >> > Joe
> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >> > On Mon, 12 Dec 2016 at 13:11 Mardetanha 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >> > Thanks indeed everyone, if you later find something, I would be the
> most
> >>
> >> > grateful if you could add it to this thread
> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >> > Mardetanha
> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >> > On Sun, Dec 11, 2016 at 6:03 AM, Victor Grigas  >
> >>
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >> > > And one more from Wikimedia Argentina:
> >>
> >> > >
> >>
> >> > > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Soy_Wikipedista.webm
> >>
> >> > >
> >>
> >> > > On Sat, Dec 10, 2016 at 8:36 AM, Andrew Lih 
> >>
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> > >
> >>
> >> > > > PS: One more video in that collection that was used:
> >>
> >> > > >
> >>
> >> > > > Wiki Loves Libraries 2013
> >>
> >> > > > https://vimeo.com/78005986
> >>
> >> > > >
> >>
> >> > > >
> >>
> >> > > >
> >>
> >> > > > On Sat, Dec 10, 2016 at 8:31 AM, Andrew Lih  >
> >>
> >> > > wrote:
> >>
> >> > > >
> >>
> >> > > > > While this is not a documentary per se, this video is a “reel”
> of
> >> the
> >>
> >> > > > best
> >>
> >> > > > > videos of the Wikimedia movement strung together that in the US,
> >>
> >> > we’ve
> >>
> >> > > > > played before edit-a-thons and events. It’s about 25 minutes in
> >>
> >> > total,
> >>
> >> > > > and
> >>
> >> > > > > there’s a countdown timer in the upper left hand corner that
> helps
> >>
> >> > give
> >>
> >> > > > > folks a sense of when an event starts.
> >>
> >> > > > >
> >>
> >> > > > > We’ve found this helps provide some energy to the room and is
> >> useful
> >>
> >> > > for
> >>
> >> > > > > people new to the movement to see human faces behind projects
> all
> >>
> >> > > around
> >>
> >> > > > > the world. It was used at Wikiconference North America, the
> United
> >>
> >> > > > Nations,
> >>
> >> > > > > and Wikimedia DC edit-a-thons. You’re welcome to use it and to
> >> give
> >>
> >> > us
> >>
> >> > > > > ideas on how to improve it.
> >>
> >> > > > >
> >>
> >> > > > > https://vimeo.com/191543645
> >>
> >> > > > >
> >>
> >> > > > > Videos used:
> >>
> >> > > > >
> >>
> >> > > > > Edit 2015
> >>
> >> > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rm1LKcHD1VE
> >>
> >> > > > >
> >>
> >> > > > > Mexico edit-a-thon
> >>
> >> > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94KtOE39Hyw
> >>
> >> > > > >
> >>
> >> > > > > #BlackLifeMatters Wikipedia Edit-a-thon in Harlem, New York City
> >>
> >> > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbSaPf-9B6Q
> >>
> >> > > > >
> >>
> >> > > > > Summer Wikicamp 2015 - Armenia
> >>
> >> > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12g9645x6gA
> >>
> >> > > > >
> >>
> >> > > > > What is Wikipedia Zero? - Jimmy narration
> >>
> >> > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaZf6h0Pus8
> >>
> >> > > > >
> >>
> >> > > > > Wikimania 2016
> >>
> >> > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SufXYsbMI8E
> >>
> >> > > > >
> >>
> >> > > > > Wikipedia Edit-a-thon at the Innovation Hub
> >>
> >> > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVIGfA0WqI8
> >>
> >> > > > >
> >>
> >> > > > > The 2016 Wikimedia Hackathon in Jerusalem
> >>
> >> > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFR2_4GEnoQ
> >>
> >> > > > >
> >>
> >> > > > >
> >>
> >> > > > > -Andrew
> >>
> >> > > > >
> >>
> >> > > > >
> >>
> >> > > 

[Wikimedia-l] Launch of translation drive #16WikiWomen

[Florence Devouard]

In the run up to International Women’s Day on the 8th March, Wiki Loves 
Women is launching the on-Wikipedia translation drive #16WikiWomen.


https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/16_African_Women_Translate-a-thon

The idea is for Wikipedians to take 16 days to make translate the 
Wikipedia biographies on 16 notable African women, into at least 16 
languages (African or international languages).


The articles to be translated will be the biographies of African women. 
The list of language can be, but is not limited to:
* International languages: Arabic, English, French, Spanish, Portuguese, 
Mandarin, German
* African languages: Akan, Afrikaans, Igbo, Hausa, Wolof, Tswana, Zulu, 
Xhosa, Shona, Swahili, Yoruba, Sudanese, Amharic, Tsonga, Ewe, Sesotho, 
Chichewa


The list of the 16 women biographies that will be translated are:
* Malouma, a Mauritanian singer, songwriter and politician
* Nozizwe Madlala-Routledge, a South African politician. The best 
initial version was in French

* Cri-Zelda Brits, a South African cricketer
* Anna Tibaijuka, a Tanzanian politician and former 
under-secretary-general of the United Nations

* Funmilayo Ransome-Kuti, a Nigerian women’s rights activist
* Flora Nwapa, a Nigerian author who writes predominantly in Igbo
* Samia Yusuf Omar, Sprinter from Somalia
* Maggie Laubser, a South African painter
* Fatima Massaquoi, a pioneering educator from Liberia
* Frances Ames, a South African neurologist, psychiatrist, and human 
rights activist
* Asmaa Mahfouz, a Egyptian activist. The best version is currently in 
Arabic

* Yaa Asantewaa, the legendary former Queen Mother of Ghana
* Fatou Bensouda, a Gambian lawyer
* Martha Karua, a Kenyan politician
* Chinwendu Ihezuo, a Nigerian professional footballer
* Nassima Saifi, a Paralympian athlete from Algeria

Please jump in ! And help relay this message accross communities !


If you wish to participate, please feel free to add your name and any 
comments here : 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/16_African_Women_Translate-a-thon/participants


Results will be tracked on this page : 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/16_African_Women_Translate-a-thon/tracking





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Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF advanced permissions for employees

[Pine W]

I'm glad that we're having this discussion, as there are several points
being made that should be considered in the documentation and design of the
global bans system.

I'm trying to think of what next steps would look like for reforming this
system. I'd suggest something like the following:

0. Agreement from WMF to reform the system, and a timeline for doing so.
For example, perhaps there would be agreement to start a "consultation" on
this matter in Q4. The consultation could be designed jointly by
representatives from WMF Legal, WMF SuSa, and community volunteers
(preferably representing a variety of roles and content projects). Note
that for this to work, the designers will need to cooperate with each
other, or the process could descend into protracted disagreements that
would make further progress be very difficult.

1. After the consultation is designed, it can be published for public
input. (That includes input from WMF employees and contractors, individuals
who are associated with Wikimedia affiliate organizations, and individual
community members.)

2. Based on that consultation, the group that was assembled for part 1 can
work together to design a new system. While unanimity is unlikely,
consensus would be preferable. Where the group is uncertain or has internal
disagreements, multiple options can be drafted for the community to
consider in the following phase.

3. Based on the results from phase 2, a community RFC can be conducted. The
RFC should be closed by one or more community stewards.

The biggest downside that I see to this process is that the community
members who volunteer to participate in the consultation design and system
design phases will need to commit dozens of hours of their time, and many
community members who are highly qualified for this kind of work are
already busy with countless other tasks, problems, and projects. So there
will need to be some consideration of how to provide volunteers some relief
from their other responsibilities while they participate in the design
process.

Pine
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