Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimania 2019 (Mohammed Bachounda)

2018-02-07 Thread Mohammed Bachounda
Congratulations to   *Wikimedia Sverige !*

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimania 2019

2018-02-07 Thread Moheen Reeyad
 Congratulations Wikimedia Sweden!



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On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 10:58 PM, Ellie Young  wrote:

> Fae,
>
> We don't yet have a Wikimania 2019 wiki "up and ready".  I would suggest
> the following:
>
> for committee:
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_Committee
>
> I will leave it to WMSE to say where they'd like these to go.
>
> Thanks, Ellie
>
> On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 3:16 AM, Fæ  wrote:
>
> > On 7 February 2018 at 11:06, Felix Nartey  wrote:
> > > Congratulations Wikimedia Sweden!
> > >
> > > On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 8:40 AM, Leinonen Teemu <
> teemu.leino...@aalto.fi>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Heja Sverige! Congratulations!
> > >>
> > >> Making me happy this week,
> > >>
> > >> - Teemu
> > >>
> > >> On 7 Feb 2018, at 3.58, Ellie Young  >> yo...@wikimedia.org>> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> *All,On behalf of the Wikimania Steering Committee and the Wikimedia
> > >> Foundation, I am pleased to announce that we have decided to have
> > Wikimania
> > >> located in Sweden in 2019.
> >
> > Hi Ellie,
> >
> > Is there a good on-wiki page for people to leave their names and
> > congratulation messages for WMSE and/or the Wikimania Steering
> > Committee for their decision?
> >
> > Thanks,
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimania 2019

2018-02-07 Thread Ellie Young
Fae,

We don't yet have a Wikimania 2019 wiki "up and ready".  I would suggest
the following:

for committee:

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_Committee

I will leave it to WMSE to say where they'd like these to go.

Thanks, Ellie

On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 3:16 AM, Fæ  wrote:

> On 7 February 2018 at 11:06, Felix Nartey  wrote:
> > Congratulations Wikimedia Sweden!
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 8:40 AM, Leinonen Teemu 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Heja Sverige! Congratulations!
> >>
> >> Making me happy this week,
> >>
> >> - Teemu
> >>
> >> On 7 Feb 2018, at 3.58, Ellie Young > yo...@wikimedia.org>> wrote:
> >>
> >> *All,On behalf of the Wikimania Steering Committee and the Wikimedia
> >> Foundation, I am pleased to announce that we have decided to have
> Wikimania
> >> located in Sweden in 2019.
>
> Hi Ellie,
>
> Is there a good on-wiki page for people to leave their names and
> congratulation messages for WMSE and/or the Wikimania Steering
> Committee for their decision?
>
> Thanks,
> Fae
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimania 2019

2018-02-07 Thread Nurunnaby Hasive
 Congratulations Wikimedia Sweden!


Hasive

On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 6:40 AM, Ivan Martínez  wrote:

> Congratulations Wikimedia Sweden!
> Will be a nice Wikimania :)
>
>
>
> El 7 feb. 2018 8:14 AM, "Bobby Shabangu" 
> escribió:
>
> Congratulations Sweden.
>
> On 7 Feb 2018 13:17, "Fæ"  wrote:
>
> > On 7 February 2018 at 11:06, Felix Nartey  wrote:
> > > Congratulations Wikimedia Sweden!
> > >
> > > On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 8:40 AM, Leinonen Teemu <
> teemu.leino...@aalto.fi>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Heja Sverige! Congratulations!
> > >>
> > >> Making me happy this week,
> > >>
> > >> - Teemu
> > >>
> > >> On 7 Feb 2018, at 3.58, Ellie Young  >> yo...@wikimedia.org>> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> *All,On behalf of the Wikimania Steering Committee and the Wikimedia
> > >> Foundation, I am pleased to announce that we have decided to have
> > Wikimania
> > >> located in Sweden in 2019.
> >
> > Hi Ellie,
> >
> > Is there a good on-wiki page for people to leave their names and
> > congratulation messages for WMSE and/or the Wikimania Steering
> > Committee for their decision?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Fae
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimania 2019

2018-02-07 Thread Ivan Martínez
Congratulations Wikimedia Sweden!
Will be a nice Wikimania :)



El 7 feb. 2018 8:14 AM, "Bobby Shabangu"  escribió:

Congratulations Sweden.

On 7 Feb 2018 13:17, "Fæ"  wrote:

> On 7 February 2018 at 11:06, Felix Nartey  wrote:
> > Congratulations Wikimedia Sweden!
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 8:40 AM, Leinonen Teemu 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Heja Sverige! Congratulations!
> >>
> >> Making me happy this week,
> >>
> >> - Teemu
> >>
> >> On 7 Feb 2018, at 3.58, Ellie Young > yo...@wikimedia.org>> wrote:
> >>
> >> *All,On behalf of the Wikimania Steering Committee and the Wikimedia
> >> Foundation, I am pleased to announce that we have decided to have
> Wikimania
> >> located in Sweden in 2019.
>
> Hi Ellie,
>
> Is there a good on-wiki page for people to leave their names and
> congratulation messages for WMSE and/or the Wikimania Steering
> Committee for their decision?
>
> Thanks,
> Fae
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimania 2019

2018-02-07 Thread Bobby Shabangu
Congratulations Sweden.

On 7 Feb 2018 13:17, "Fæ"  wrote:

> On 7 February 2018 at 11:06, Felix Nartey  wrote:
> > Congratulations Wikimedia Sweden!
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 8:40 AM, Leinonen Teemu 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Heja Sverige! Congratulations!
> >>
> >> Making me happy this week,
> >>
> >> - Teemu
> >>
> >> On 7 Feb 2018, at 3.58, Ellie Young > yo...@wikimedia.org>> wrote:
> >>
> >> *All,On behalf of the Wikimania Steering Committee and the Wikimedia
> >> Foundation, I am pleased to announce that we have decided to have
> Wikimania
> >> located in Sweden in 2019.
>
> Hi Ellie,
>
> Is there a good on-wiki page for people to leave their names and
> congratulation messages for WMSE and/or the Wikimania Steering
> Committee for their decision?
>
> Thanks,
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Update on Wikimedia vs. NSA

2018-02-07 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
I though the United Stated, being the most democratic country of the world,
does not recognize decisions of international courts (and, specifically, it
withdrew from the International Court of Justice after a decision was taken
it did not like, and it never ratified the convention about the Inter-American
Court of Human Rights).

Cheers
Yaroslav

On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 12:34 PM, mathieu stumpf guntz <
psychosl...@culture-libre.org> wrote:

> Thank you Katherine for the update.
>
> For Greg, I would like to know if there are some international courts in
> which this could also lead to a lawsuit. I'm thinking to the International
> Court of Justice, or the Inter-American Court of Human Rights, as I guess
> something like European Court of Human Rights would be out of scope,
> although the global spying practice might suggest otherwise.
>
> If any lawsuit is possible in an international court, had this been
> attempted by anyone, or had this been avoided for some specific reasons?
>
> Cheers
>
>
> Le 30/01/2018 à 01:14, Katherine Maher a écrit :
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I’d like to share an update and next steps in our lawsuit against the U.S.
>> National Security Agency (NSA), Wikimedia Foundation v. NSA.[1] As you’ll
>> recall, in March 2015, the Wikimedia Foundation joined eight other
>> plaintiffs in filing a suit in United States Federal District Court
>> against
>> the NSA[2] and the Department of Justice,[3] among others. We have been
>> represented pro bono[4] by the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU)[5]
>> and
>> the Knight First Amendment Institute at Columbia University.[6] The law
>> firm Cooley LLP[7] has also been serving as pro bono co-counsel for the
>> Foundation.
>>
>> Since we’re coming on the three-year anniversary, I wanted to offer a
>> reminder of why we filed this suit. Our challenge supports the
>> foundational
>> values of our movement: the right to freedom of expression and access to
>> information. Free knowledge requires freedom of inquiry, particularly in
>> the case of challenging and unpopular truths. Each day people around the
>> world engage with difficult and controversial subjects on Wikipedia and
>> other Wikimedia projects. Pervasive mass surveillance brings the threat of
>> reprisal, creates a chilling effect, and undermines the freedoms upon
>> which
>> our projects and communities are founded. In bringing this suit, we joined
>> a tradition of knowledge stewards who have fought to preserve the
>> integrity
>> of intellectual inquiry.
>>
>> Our lawsuit challenges dragnet surveillance by the NSA, specifically the
>> large-scale seizing and searching of Internet communications frequently
>> referred to as “Upstream” surveillance.[8] The U.S. government is tapping
>> directly into the internet’s “backbone”[9]—the network of high-capacity
>> cables, switches, and routers that carry domestic and international
>> communications—and seizing and searching virtually all text-based internet
>> communications flowing into and out of the United States. It’s this
>> backbone that connects the global Wikimedia community to our projects.
>> These communications are being seized and searched without any requirement
>> that there be suspicion, for example, that the communications have a
>> connection to terrorism or national security threats.
>>
>> Last May, we reached an important milestone: a Federal Court of
>> Appeals[10]
>> in the United States ruled[11] that the Foundation alone had plausibly
>> alleged “standing”[12] to proceed with our claims that Upstream mass
>> surveillance seizes and searches of the online communications of Wikimedia
>> users, contributors and Foundation staff in violation of the U.S.
>> Constitution and other laws. The Court of Appeals’ ruling means that we
>> are
>> the sole remaining plaintiff among the nine original co-plaintiffs. There
>> is still a long road ahead, but this intermediate victory makes this case
>> one of the most important vehicles for challenging the legality of this
>> particular NSA surveillance practice.
>>
>> As a result of our win in the appellate court, we are now proceeding to
>> the
>> next stage of the case: discovery.[13] In the U.S. court system, parties
>> use the discovery stage to exchange evidence and ask each other questions
>> about their claims. We have requested information and documents from the
>> government, and they have made similar requests from us. The entire phase,
>> which will also involve research and reports from experts, is expected to
>> last the next few months.
>>
>> As part of our commitment to privacy, I want you to know about what this
>> stage of the case means for our data retention practices. Our goal in
>> bringing this lawsuit was to protect user information. In this case, like
>> other litigation in which we engage, we may sometimes be legally required
>> to preserve some information longer than the standard 90-day period in our
>> data retention guidelines. These special cases are acknowledged 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] RFC on wikimedia-l posting limits

2018-02-07 Thread
On 23 August 2017 at 05:03, John Mark Vandenberg  wrote:
> Hi list members,
>
> The list admins (hereafter 'we', being Austin, Asaf, Shani and I, your
> humble narrator) regularly receive complaints about the frequent
> posters on this list, as well as about the unpleasant atmosphere some
> posters (some of them frequent) create.
>
> It is natural that frequent posters will say specific things that more
> frequently annoy other list members, but often the complaints are due
> to the volume of messages rather than the content of the messages.
>
> We are floating some suggestions aimed specifically at reducing the
> volume, hopefully motivating frequent posters to self-moderate more,
> but these proposed limits are actually intending to increasing the
> quality of the discourse without heavy subjective moderation.
>
> The first proposal impacts all posters to this list, and the last
> three proposals are aimed at providing a more clear framework within
> which criticism and whistle-blowing are permitted, but that critics
> are prevented from drowning out other discussions. The bandwidth that
> will be given to critics should be established in advance, reducing
> need to use subjective moderation of the content when a limit to the
> volume will often achieve the same result.
...
>
> The RFC is at 
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/wikimedia-l-post-limits
>
> However please also feel welcome to reply on-list if you wish to
> express explicit support or opposition to any of the four proposals
> above (please identify them by number, to ease counting).  We will
> count votes (here and on the meta RFC) after two weeks, and post a
> more refined final version back to this mailing list.
>
> The list administrators will default to *enacting* all four proposals,
> but will refrain from enacting any proposal receiving more opposition
> than support.
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The RFC has yet to be closed, after being open for over five months.
Could someone close it or reject it?

In practical reality, the hardline talk about posting limits, seems to
have resulted in significantly reduced posts to this list. The
statistics are somewhat worrying, casting doubt on the long term
future of this list staying active or interesting.

The standard statistics [1] show participation is at a record low. My
sense of the list is that real content discussions are now minimal,
with announcements and thankspam outnumbering thoughtful observations
or critiques.

Picking out one trend to illustrate, here are comparative numbers for
last month against other Januarys in the last few years, which is a
simple way to compensate for seasonal variation:
  2018, 139 posts
  2017, 370 posts
  2016, 989 posts
  2015, 445 posts
  2014, 571 posts

Rather than increasing negative bureaucracy on the list to stop people
posting too much, perhaps the list moderators have some views on how
to positively encourage people to engage with the community here?

Links
1. https://stats.wikimedia.org/mail-lists/wikimedia-l.html

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Update on Wikimedia vs. NSA

2018-02-07 Thread mathieu stumpf guntz

Thank you Katherine for the update.

For Greg, I would like to know if there are some international courts in 
which this could also lead to a lawsuit. I'm thinking to the 
International Court of Justice, or the Inter-American Court of Human 
Rights, as I guess something like European Court of Human Rights would 
be out of scope, although the global spying practice might suggest 
otherwise.


If any lawsuit is possible in an international court, had this been 
attempted by anyone, or had this been avoided for some specific reasons?


Cheers


Le 30/01/2018 à 01:14, Katherine Maher a écrit :

Hi all,

I’d like to share an update and next steps in our lawsuit against the U.S.
National Security Agency (NSA), Wikimedia Foundation v. NSA.[1] As you’ll
recall, in March 2015, the Wikimedia Foundation joined eight other
plaintiffs in filing a suit in United States Federal District Court against
the NSA[2] and the Department of Justice,[3] among others. We have been
represented pro bono[4] by the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU)[5] and
the Knight First Amendment Institute at Columbia University.[6] The law
firm Cooley LLP[7] has also been serving as pro bono co-counsel for the
Foundation.

Since we’re coming on the three-year anniversary, I wanted to offer a
reminder of why we filed this suit. Our challenge supports the foundational
values of our movement: the right to freedom of expression and access to
information. Free knowledge requires freedom of inquiry, particularly in
the case of challenging and unpopular truths. Each day people around the
world engage with difficult and controversial subjects on Wikipedia and
other Wikimedia projects. Pervasive mass surveillance brings the threat of
reprisal, creates a chilling effect, and undermines the freedoms upon which
our projects and communities are founded. In bringing this suit, we joined
a tradition of knowledge stewards who have fought to preserve the integrity
of intellectual inquiry.

Our lawsuit challenges dragnet surveillance by the NSA, specifically the
large-scale seizing and searching of Internet communications frequently
referred to as “Upstream” surveillance.[8] The U.S. government is tapping
directly into the internet’s “backbone”[9]—the network of high-capacity
cables, switches, and routers that carry domestic and international
communications—and seizing and searching virtually all text-based internet
communications flowing into and out of the United States. It’s this
backbone that connects the global Wikimedia community to our projects.
These communications are being seized and searched without any requirement
that there be suspicion, for example, that the communications have a
connection to terrorism or national security threats.

Last May, we reached an important milestone: a Federal Court of Appeals[10]
in the United States ruled[11] that the Foundation alone had plausibly
alleged “standing”[12] to proceed with our claims that Upstream mass
surveillance seizes and searches of the online communications of Wikimedia
users, contributors and Foundation staff in violation of the U.S.
Constitution and other laws. The Court of Appeals’ ruling means that we are
the sole remaining plaintiff among the nine original co-plaintiffs. There
is still a long road ahead, but this intermediate victory makes this case
one of the most important vehicles for challenging the legality of this
particular NSA surveillance practice.

As a result of our win in the appellate court, we are now proceeding to the
next stage of the case: discovery.[13] In the U.S. court system, parties
use the discovery stage to exchange evidence and ask each other questions
about their claims. We have requested information and documents from the
government, and they have made similar requests from us. The entire phase,
which will also involve research and reports from experts, is expected to
last the next few months.

As part of our commitment to privacy, I want you to know about what this
stage of the case means for our data retention practices. Our goal in
bringing this lawsuit was to protect user information. In this case, like
other litigation in which we engage, we may sometimes be legally required
to preserve some information longer than the standard 90-day period in our
data retention guidelines. These special cases are acknowledged and
permitted by our privacy and data retention policies.[14]

As always, however, we remain committed to keeping user data no longer than
legally necessary. We never publish the exact details of litigation-related
data retention, as part of our legal strategy to keep personal data safe.
And we defend any personal data from disclosure to the maximum extent,
taking both legal and technical measures to do so. We are keeping sensitive
material encrypted and offline, and we have the support of the experienced
legal teams at the ACLU and Cooley in ensuring its safety and integrity.
Wikimedia Foundation v. NSA is currently one of the only freedom of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimania 2019

2018-02-07 Thread
On 7 February 2018 at 11:06, Felix Nartey  wrote:
> Congratulations Wikimedia Sweden!
>
> On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 8:40 AM, Leinonen Teemu 
> wrote:
>
>> Heja Sverige! Congratulations!
>>
>> Making me happy this week,
>>
>> - Teemu
>>
>> On 7 Feb 2018, at 3.58, Ellie Young  yo...@wikimedia.org>> wrote:
>>
>> *All,On behalf of the Wikimania Steering Committee and the Wikimedia
>> Foundation, I am pleased to announce that we have decided to have Wikimania
>> located in Sweden in 2019.

Hi Ellie,

Is there a good on-wiki page for people to leave their names and
congratulation messages for WMSE and/or the Wikimania Steering
Committee for their decision?

Thanks,
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimania 2019

2018-02-07 Thread Felix Nartey
Congratulations Wikimedia Sweden!

On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 8:40 AM, Leinonen Teemu 
wrote:

> Heja Sverige! Congratulations!
>
> Making me happy this week,
>
> - Teemu
>
> On 7 Feb 2018, at 3.58, Ellie Young > wrote:
>
> *All,On behalf of the Wikimania Steering Committee and the Wikimedia
> Foundation, I am pleased to announce that we have decided to have Wikimania
> located in Sweden in 2019.
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of the Wikimedians of Romania and Moldova User Group

2018-02-07 Thread Redon Skikuli
Congratulations to the Wikimedians of Romania and Moldova User Group and
welcome.

I was wondering if this is the right place to ask about the issue we are
having in Albania in the recognition of our UG. It has been more than four
months now without any comment from the affiliation committee about our
application. Thank you!



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*Redon Skikuli*
*e-mail: **re...@skikuli.com *
*web: **www.skikuli.com *


On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 2:51 AM, Kirill Lokshin 
wrote:

> Hi everyone!
>
> I'm very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has recognized
> the Wikimedians of Romania and Moldova User Group [1] as a Wikimedia User
> Group. The group aims to promote the use of Romanian Wikipedia and its
> sister projects by the residents of Romania and Moldova, with the goal of
> improving the relevance and perception of Wikimedia projects among readers
> and users, as well as within the cultural and scientific communities.
>
> Please join me in congratulating the members of this new user group!
>
> Regards,
> Kirill Lokshin
> Chair, Affiliations Committee
>
> [1]
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedians_of_Romania_
> and_Moldova_User_Group
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimania 2019

2018-02-07 Thread Leinonen Teemu
Heja Sverige! Congratulations!

Making me happy this week,

- Teemu

On 7 Feb 2018, at 3.58, Ellie Young 
> wrote:

*All,On behalf of the Wikimania Steering Committee and the Wikimedia
Foundation, I am pleased to announce that we have decided to have Wikimania
located in Sweden in 2019.


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