Re: [Wikimedia-l] Bounties…

2019-01-24 Thread Benjamin Lees 
It's interesting that you chose spellchecking as your example.  On the
English Wikipedia, I tend to see that as an activity that some people
actually do find fun (or relaxing).  Plus, spelling errors (or perceived
spelling errors[1]) are something that unregistered users really like
fixing.  But maybe that varies significantly across language editions.

In any event, spelling errors are probably the case where eventualism is
most appropriate.  It is rare that someone will be misinformed because of
spelling mistakes, and they serve a useful signaling function in making it
clear that a given piece of content has probably not undergone peer
review.  And rather than driving people away, they tend to draw them
in—Cunningham's law[2] never fails.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:ENGVAR
[2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Cunningham%27s_Law


On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 6:55 PM John Erling Blad  wrote:

> Both in Wikipedia and other parts of the Wikimedia-universe there are
> a lot of jobs that should be done, but are not so popular. Because
> they are not done, people get tired and backs away from whatever they
> are doing.
>
> I could give several examples, but lets say spellchecking. It is not
> fun doing spellchecking, even if you are spellchecking something
> written by a professor. Instead of doing spellchecking you do
> something else, like poking around in some code, or write about
> Pokemon. While you do so the professor gets a bit annoyed over the not
> so perfect article, and starts to wonder what happen to the crowd in
> crowdsourcing.
>
> Somewhere along the way the it became so bad to talk about anything
> except the pure wikipedian sitting on top of his pillar with a book
> and a computer, writing articles in solitude, that we completely
> missed the opportunities to get a much larger momentum.
>
> The Norwegian Bokmål Wikipedia has over a half a million articles.
> About 10 % lack sources. Nearly all of them has spelling errors. It is
> nothing unusual about this.
>
> Could we use bounties to get some momentum?
>
> John Erling Blad
> /jeblad
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Bounties…

2019-01-24 Thread Rehman Abubakr 
Hello John,

I thought about it too, in a slightly different angle, and maybe it is really 
not a bad idea.

What I thought was more for people who are here for a while (maybe those who 
have been around for 2+ years, 5000 edits, whatever). More of a motivation for 
the older worn out contributors.[1]

I don't know what the 'bounty' could be, maybe something tangible or valuable 
in RL (tshirt, products, cake, draw to win stuff), or maybe something that is 
more than a barnstar but still digital. I prefer the latter for efficiency 
reasons, hence let me elaborate a tiny bit on that:

It could be something like an automated point system that is attached to a user 
account. Something like a scorecard that is not editable by users, but is 
visible as part of the account, automatically updated in the backend by the 
system or a special authorised bot. Something of that sort.

Just my thoughts...

[1] I've been around since 2008, and worked in many parts of Wikipedia and 
Commons. As real life gets more hectic for me, my motivation to edit is 
starting to vary widely, as while there are sooo many things to do in the 
wikiverse during my free time, there aren't any solid milestones you could 
focus on each day. You open a random backlog, and there's an endless ocean of 
work which if you attend 1 or 1 requests, it doesn't really matter to the 
contributor itself. More like starting to mop a vast room-less floor.



Yours truly,


Rehman Abubakr (Roy)

OTRS agent, Admin (English Wikipedia, Commons), Contributor (Wikidata, Meta)
User:Rehman | 
Talkpage | 
rehman.wikime...@live.com | 
UG-LK


From: Wikimedia-l  on behalf of John 
Erling Blad 
Sent: 25 January 2019 05:25
To: Wikimedia Mailing List
Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Bounties…

Both in Wikipedia and other parts of the Wikimedia-universe there are
a lot of jobs that should be done, but are not so popular. Because
they are not done, people get tired and backs away from whatever they
are doing.

I could give several examples, but lets say spellchecking. It is not
fun doing spellchecking, even if you are spellchecking something
written by a professor. Instead of doing spellchecking you do
something else, like poking around in some code, or write about
Pokemon. While you do so the professor gets a bit annoyed over the not
so perfect article, and starts to wonder what happen to the crowd in
crowdsourcing.

Somewhere along the way the it became so bad to talk about anything
except the pure wikipedian sitting on top of his pillar with a book
and a computer, writing articles in solitude, that we completely
missed the opportunities to get a much larger momentum.

The Norwegian Bokmål Wikipedia has over a half a million articles.
About 10 % lack sources. Nearly all of them has spelling errors. It is
nothing unusual about this.

Could we use bounties to get some momentum?

John Erling Blad
/jeblad

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[Wikimedia-l] Bounties…

2019-01-24 Thread John Erling Blad 
Both in Wikipedia and other parts of the Wikimedia-universe there are
a lot of jobs that should be done, but are not so popular. Because
they are not done, people get tired and backs away from whatever they
are doing.

I could give several examples, but lets say spellchecking. It is not
fun doing spellchecking, even if you are spellchecking something
written by a professor. Instead of doing spellchecking you do
something else, like poking around in some code, or write about
Pokemon. While you do so the professor gets a bit annoyed over the not
so perfect article, and starts to wonder what happen to the crowd in
crowdsourcing.

Somewhere along the way the it became so bad to talk about anything
except the pure wikipedian sitting on top of his pillar with a book
and a computer, writing articles in solitude, that we completely
missed the opportunities to get a much larger momentum.

The Norwegian Bokmål Wikipedia has over a half a million articles.
About 10 % lack sources. Nearly all of them has spelling errors. It is
nothing unusual about this.

Could we use bounties to get some momentum?

John Erling Blad
/jeblad

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Security Notification: Malware creating fake Wikipedia donation banner

2019-01-24 Thread Adam Wight 
Horrifying!

Is there anything we can do from our side, e.g. include some Javascript
which can detect and disable the malware banner?

[[mw:Adamw]]

On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 10:11 AM Paulo Santos Perneta <
paulospern...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I seem to recall some OTRS tickets recently sent warning about it. Should
> they be forward to any address in particular, in case they keep coming in?
>
> Paulo
>
> John Bennett  escreveu no dia quinta, 24/01/2019
> à(s) 14:02:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > In order to keep the community informed of threats against Wikimedia
> > projects and users, the Wikimedia Security team has some information to
> > share.
> >
> > Malware installed via pirated contented downloaded from sites such as the
> > Pirate Bay can cause web browsers compromised by the malware to create a
> > fake donation banner for Wikipedia users. While the actual malware is not
> > installed or distributed via Wikipedia, unaware visitors may be confused
> or
> > tricked by it's activities.
> >
> > The malware seeks to trick visitors to Wikipedia by looking like a
> > legitimate Wikipedia banner asking for donations. Once the user clicks on
> > the banner, they are then taken to a portal that leads them to transfer
> > money to a fraudulent bitcoin account that is not controlled by the
> > Foundation.
> >
> > The current version of this malware is only infecting Microsoft Windows
> > users at the time of this notification. To date, the number of people
> > affected is small. The fraudulent accounts have taken approximately $700
> > from infected users. However, we strongly encourage all users to use and
> > update their antivirus software.
> >
> >
> > Additional details and a screenshot of the fake donation banner on can be
> > found at Bleepingcomputer.com. [0]
> >
> > [0]
> >
> >
> https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/fake-movie-file-infects-pc-to-steal-cryptocurrency-poison-google-results/
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > John Bennett
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Security Notification: Malware creating fake Wikipedia donation banner

2019-01-24 Thread Paulo Santos Perneta 
Hi,

I seem to recall some OTRS tickets recently sent warning about it. Should
they be forward to any address in particular, in case they keep coming in?

Paulo

John Bennett  escreveu no dia quinta, 24/01/2019
à(s) 14:02:

> Hello,
>
> In order to keep the community informed of threats against Wikimedia
> projects and users, the Wikimedia Security team has some information to
> share.
>
> Malware installed via pirated contented downloaded from sites such as the
> Pirate Bay can cause web browsers compromised by the malware to create a
> fake donation banner for Wikipedia users. While the actual malware is not
> installed or distributed via Wikipedia, unaware visitors may be confused or
> tricked by it's activities.
>
> The malware seeks to trick visitors to Wikipedia by looking like a
> legitimate Wikipedia banner asking for donations. Once the user clicks on
> the banner, they are then taken to a portal that leads them to transfer
> money to a fraudulent bitcoin account that is not controlled by the
> Foundation.
>
> The current version of this malware is only infecting Microsoft Windows
> users at the time of this notification. To date, the number of people
> affected is small. The fraudulent accounts have taken approximately $700
> from infected users. However, we strongly encourage all users to use and
> update their antivirus software.
>
>
> Additional details and a screenshot of the fake donation banner on can be
> found at Bleepingcomputer.com. [0]
>
> [0]
>
> https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/fake-movie-file-infects-pc-to-steal-cryptocurrency-poison-google-results/
>
> Thanks,
>
> John Bennett
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[Wikimedia-l] Security Notification: Malware creating fake Wikipedia donation banner

2019-01-24 Thread John Bennett 
Hello,

In order to keep the community informed of threats against Wikimedia
projects and users, the Wikimedia Security team has some information to
share.

Malware installed via pirated contented downloaded from sites such as the
Pirate Bay can cause web browsers compromised by the malware to create a
fake donation banner for Wikipedia users. While the actual malware is not
installed or distributed via Wikipedia, unaware visitors may be confused or
tricked by it's activities.

The malware seeks to trick visitors to Wikipedia by looking like a
legitimate Wikipedia banner asking for donations. Once the user clicks on
the banner, they are then taken to a portal that leads them to transfer
money to a fraudulent bitcoin account that is not controlled by the
Foundation.

The current version of this malware is only infecting Microsoft Windows
users at the time of this notification. To date, the number of people
affected is small. The fraudulent accounts have taken approximately $700
from infected users. However, we strongly encourage all users to use and
update their antivirus software.


Additional details and a screenshot of the fake donation banner on can be
found at Bleepingcomputer.com. [0]

[0]
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/fake-movie-file-infects-pc-to-steal-cryptocurrency-poison-google-results/

Thanks,

John Bennett
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Publication of WMF Affiliate agreements

2019-01-24 Thread Laurentius 
Il giorno mer, 23/01/2019 alle 11.37 -0500, Lane Rasberry ha scritto:
> [...] Likely entities to answer this could be the WMF board, because
> they recently granted voting rights to user groups

Actually there is no change in the board selection process so far: the
change is on the agenda of a board meeting next week [1]. The agenda
does not specify whether a specific amendment will be voted or it will
be only a discussion, nor whether the December proposal [2] has been
updated based on the comments received.
(It is good to see, by the way, that four trustees - Natalia,
María, Christophe and Dariusz - took part in the discussion on Meta)

Laurentius

[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_board_agenda_2019-01
[2] 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_bylaws/December_2018_-_Affiliate-selected_trustees,_term_limits,_and_diversity

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