Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reviewing our brand system for our 2030 goals

[Gerard Meijssen]

Hoi,
* The global brand will make it even easier to forget who we are at the
Foundation. This is exactly what is to be prevented. The existing bias is
already too big.
* Not necessarily sure but it is inevitable because you say that is who we
are.

When we are to do better in our mission, we should be subject driven not
article driven.
Thanks but no thanks,
   GerardM

On Tue, 9 Apr 2019 at 18:17, Joseph Seddon  wrote:

> From what I know:
> * The global brand won't stop Wikidata being Wikidata.
> * Wikimedia Russia won't necessarily become Wikipedia Russia
>
> Seddon
>
> On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 4:56 PM Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga <
> galder...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Think of Wikipedia Russia convincing Russian government that they are not
> > really Wikipedia Russia.
> > 
> > From: Wikimedia-l  on behalf of
> > Benjamin Ikuta 
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2019 4:21 PM
> > To: Wikimedia Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reviewing our brand system for our 2030 goals
> >
> >
> >
> > What real life problems would there be?
> >
> >
> >
> > On Apr 9, 2019, at 6:11 AM, Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga <
> > galder...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > The idea of rebranding Wikimedia to Wikipedia will create FAR more
> > problems than it solves, specially in places where identifying ourselves
> > with Wikipedia could create real life problems to affiliates. Let's think
> > on making our product better, because is not a brand problem, is an
> > obsolescence problem what we have.
> > > 
> > > From: Wikimedia-l  on behalf
> > of Gerard Meijssen 
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2019 12:36 PM
> > > To: Wikimedia Mailing List
> > > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reviewing our brand system for our 2030
> goals
> > >
> > > Hoi,
> > > The problem is that Wikipedia has an article bound interest. Our aim is
> > to
> > > share in the sum of all knowledge and it is about subjects. In addition
> > to
> > > this the approach and `the lessons learned` in effect are used as a
> > > template on how `other` Wikipedias are to function. This bias hinder,
> > even
> > > prevent other possible approaches.
> > >
> > > Using Wikipedia to define what Wikimedia does, enforces existing bias
> and
> > > hinders our mission.
> > > Thanks,
> > > GerardM
> > >
> > > On Tue, 9 Apr 2019 at 11:25, James Salsman  wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi Elena,
> > >>
> > >> If by "branding project" you mean replacing references to Wikimedia
> > >> with Wikipedia, that is fine with me.
> > >>
> > >> Best regards,
> > >> Jim
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 1:58 AM Elena Lappen 
> > wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Hi all,
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks to those of you who have participated in the branding project
> > >>> community consultation so far. We’ve received a lot of helpful
> feedback
> > >> via
> > >>> email, on-wiki, and in small meetings with affiliate group members
> and
> > >>> individual contributors.
> > >>>
> > >>> I posted this invitation to the project talk page last week [1], but
> > >> wanted
> > >>> to send a reminder here that we will be hosting a video conference
> > >> session
> > >>> to give people a chance to see the presentation, ask questions and
> > >> provide
> > >>> feedback.
> > >>>
> > >>> When? This Thursday, April 11th from 16:00-17:00 UTC.
> > >>>
> > >>> Where? https://bluejeans.com/540134391/browser, or call in using
> your
> > >>> closest local number [2] and enter meeting ID 540 134 391#.
> > >>>
> > >>> If you’d like to see the presentation but cannot attend, that is no
> > >>> problem—we will be posting a recording to Commons and putting the
> link
> > on
> > >>> the talk page afterwards.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks,
> > >>>
> > >>> Elena
> > >>>
> > >>> [1]
> > >>>
> > >>
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Communications/Wikimedia_brands/2030_research_and_planning/community_review#Invitation_to_join_a_video_conference_presentation
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> [2] https://www.bluejeans.com/premium-numbers
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>> Elena Lappen
> > >>> Community Relations Specialist
> > >>> Wikimedia Foundation
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 7:14 PM Zack McCune 
> > >> wrote:
> > >>>
> >  :: Apologies for cross-posting to multiple mailing lists. We want to
> > >> ensure
> >  we spread the word about this opportunity to as many people as
> > >> possible. ::
> > 
> >  Hi all,
> > 
> >  We are writing today to invite you to be a part of a community
> review
> > >> on
> >  Wikimedia brand research and strategy.
> > 
> >  Recently, the Wikimedia Foundation set out to better understand how
> > the
> >  world sees Wikimedia and Wikimedia projects as brands.[1] We wanted
> to
> > >> get
> >  a sense of the general visibility of our different projects, and
> > >> evaluate
> >  public support of our mission to spread free knowledge.
> > 
> >  We launched a global brand study to 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Update on Programs & Events Dashboard

[Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga]

Thanks!
I prefer students to work directly on Wiki and not on the Dashboard, as they 
don't understand why they are in a completely different page that doesn't seem 
to be related to Wikipedia. But this is useful for some courses.

From: Wikimedia-l  on behalf of Sage 
Ross 
Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2019 8:13 PM
To: Wikimedia Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Update on Programs & Events Dashboard

On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 10:28 AM Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga <
galder...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I'm interested in the IP limit issue.. could you explain how it works,
> please?
>
> Thanks
>
> Galder
>

If you are one of the facilitators for a program or course on Programs &
Events Dashboard, there will be a button to "Enable account requests" on
the home tab. Once you enable account requests, there are two ways to use
the feature.

A user who follows the enrollment link and is not logged in will have the
option to request an account by entering their email address and desired
username. (The Dashboard will verify that the username is available before
they can submit the request.) Then, the facilitator will be able to see a
message when they view the program page, saying that there is a requested
account waiting to be created. They can click to approve it — at which
point, the Dashboard will create the account (and MediaWiki will email them
the temporary password), and also add that user as an editor for that
program.

A facilitator can also create a new account (and add it to the program)
directly, by entering an email and desired username on the Editors tab.
This is useful especially for in-person events like editathons, so that
those without accounts can get set up immediately upon arriving (rather
than needing to follow a link on their own computer).

How it works behind the scenes is that the facilitator or Dashboard admin
who clicks to create the account will attempt to do the account creation
action through OAuth with their own account (eg,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Log/Meredithdrum ), but if they
cannot do so because of the IP limit, the account will be created by
User:OutreachDashboardBot instead:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Log/OutreachDashboardBot

The feature can also be enabled by default for an entire campaign.

We built the initial account creation feature for Art+Feminism 2018, but
this year, we added the OutreachDashboardBot fallback so event organizers
to request Account Creator rights (which is what most people running an Art
+ Feminism event did in 2018).

-Sage
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Update on Programs & Events Dashboard

[Sage Ross]

On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 10:28 AM Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga <
galder...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I'm interested in the IP limit issue.. could you explain how it works,
> please?
>
> Thanks
>
> Galder
>

If you are one of the facilitators for a program or course on Programs &
Events Dashboard, there will be a button to "Enable account requests" on
the home tab. Once you enable account requests, there are two ways to use
the feature.

A user who follows the enrollment link and is not logged in will have the
option to request an account by entering their email address and desired
username. (The Dashboard will verify that the username is available before
they can submit the request.) Then, the facilitator will be able to see a
message when they view the program page, saying that there is a requested
account waiting to be created. They can click to approve it — at which
point, the Dashboard will create the account (and MediaWiki will email them
the temporary password), and also add that user as an editor for that
program.

A facilitator can also create a new account (and add it to the program)
directly, by entering an email and desired username on the Editors tab.
This is useful especially for in-person events like editathons, so that
those without accounts can get set up immediately upon arriving (rather
than needing to follow a link on their own computer).

How it works behind the scenes is that the facilitator or Dashboard admin
who clicks to create the account will attempt to do the account creation
action through OAuth with their own account (eg,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Log/Meredithdrum ), but if they
cannot do so because of the IP limit, the account will be created by
User:OutreachDashboardBot instead:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Log/OutreachDashboardBot

The feature can also be enabled by default for an entire campaign.

We built the initial account creation feature for Art+Feminism 2018, but
this year, we added the OutreachDashboardBot fallback so event organizers
to request Account Creator rights (which is what most people running an Art
+ Feminism event did in 2018).

-Sage
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] proposals

[Thyge]

I for one would prefer that proposals were entered on wiki and only links
to them be posted in an email here with a 5-word topic for each.
Kind regards,
Thyge Larsen

Den tir. 9. apr. 2019 kl. 10.58 skrev James Salsman :

> I would like to send some proposals, less than a kilobyte each, to
> this email list, but just in case I would like to know whether anyone
> seeing this would prefer that I not send them. Please let me know.
> Thank you. Best regards, -Jim
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Update on Programs & Events Dashboard

[Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga]

I'm interested in the IP limit issue.. could you explain how it works, please?

Thanks

Galder

From: Wikimedia-l  on behalf of Sage 
Ross 
Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2019 6:18 PM
To: Wikimedia Mailing List
Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Update on Programs & Events Dashboard

The Wikimedia Community Tech team is in the final stretch of their
Community Wishlist 2017 work and recently announced the beta launch of
the 'Event Metrics' project they worked on for the #3 wish. Since the
initial proposal [1] was to improve Wiki Education's program
organizing and metrics tool Programs & Events Dashboard [2], we've
heard from a lot of people worried that Event Metrics [3] is supposed
to be a replacement for the Dashboard or that the Dashboard is going
away.

To clear up any potential confusion: Wiki Education will keep
supporting Programs & Events Dashboard as part of our commitment to
making our technology work as useful as possible to the rest of the
Wikimedia movement. Our newly-expanded Technology department, along
with many awesome volunteers and interns, is more committed than ever
to improving the Dashboard as tool for global programs, because it's
been so essential for many of you.

Programs & Events Dashboard recently passed the milestone of 4,000
programs, from more than 100 different wikis, and more than 28,000
editors have logged in [4].

For those who haven't used it before, or haven't done so in a while,
some of the useful features include:

* Account registration for in-person edit-a-thons  — to avoid getting
stopped by the IP limit for new accounts
* Automatically updated metrics for articles edited, number of edits,
Commons uploads, etc. [5]
* Additional downloadable metrics, including 7-day retention of new
editors, the complete list of edits made
* For English and Portuguese Wikipedia, tools for monitoring which
articles are involved in deletion processes [6]
* Translatable, wiki-editable training modules for newcomers [7]
* For all the languages with ORES "article quality" models, extra data
and visualizations based on ORES estimates

We have some additional features planned for the near future as well:

* Metrics for number of citations added
* Wikidata metrics for claims created and references added

If you have feature requests or complaints, please do let us know
either on the Meta talk page [8] or by opening an issue on GitHub [9].
Our team is small, so we rely heavily on the feedback we get from
Programs & Events Dashboard users to identify problems and make
improvements.

-Sage Ross
Wiki Education



[1] 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey_2017/Programs_and_events/Development_of_the_programs_and_events_dashboard
[2] https://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org/
[3] https://eventmetrics.wmflabs.org/
[4] https://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org/usage
[5] 
https://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org/courses/Wikimedia_ZA/Wiki_Loves_Africa_2019_South_Africa/home
[6] https://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org/campaigns/artfeminism_2019/alerts
[7] 
https://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org/training/editing-wikipedia/editing-basics/welcome-new-editor
[8] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Programs_%26_Events_Dashboard
[9] 
https://github.com/WikiEducationFoundation/WikiEduDashboard/issues/new/choose

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reviewing our brand system for our 2030 goals

[Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga]

From the first text:

" Explore new naming conventions for the Foundation and affiliate groups that 
use Wikipedia rather than Wikimedia."

I also think that Wikipedia is a much stronger brand than Wikimedia is, but I 
have been talking about this issue the last weeks in different places with way 
very different people and they all say that they will have real problems if 
they change the name from Wikimedia to Wikipedia. Legal issues will be more 
common if the name convention is changed from Wikimedia to Wikipedia, as you 
can be responsible (country law's depending) of what it is written on Wikipedia.

From: Wikimedia-l  on behalf of Chris 
Keating 
Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2019 6:39 PM
To: Wikimedia Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reviewing our brand system for our 2030 goals

> At the occasion, we should also reconsider the expressions "chapter"
> and "user group".
> "Chapter" is more suitable for local divisions of a national
> association. And "user group" sounds just like some group. We also
> already have "user group" as a technical term in MediaWiki.
>

You may be aware that the movement strategy process is thinking about this
issue, albeit at a broader level :)

For instance one of the questions the Roles and Responsibilities group is
looking at is "What governance and organizational structures do we need to
support the delivery of the strategic direction?"(1)

You will notice that there is no mention of chapters, user groups or indeed
the WMF in this question. That's because there is no presumption that any
of those bodies (or types of bodies) will continue to exist in their
current form - the changes from the strategy process may well be much more
profound than finessing the names of categories of entity that currently
exist.

Thanks,

Chris



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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reviewing our brand system for our 2030 goals

[Oscar Costero]

Nonetheless, the 'what ifs' are worrisome is the proposal is accepted.
People (govts, enterprises, etc) would think it's a mistake with the name
Wikimedia and incorrectly deduce (after some Google search on their part)
that the name is Wikipedia Russia, not Wikimedia Russia.

El mar., 9 abr. 2019 a las 12:17, Joseph Seddon ()
escribió:

> From what I know:
> * The global brand won't stop Wikidata being Wikidata.
> * Wikimedia Russia won't necessarily become Wikipedia Russia
>
> Seddon
>
> On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 4:56 PM Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga <
> galder...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Think of Wikipedia Russia convincing Russian government that they are not
> > really Wikipedia Russia.
> > 
> > From: Wikimedia-l  on behalf of
> > Benjamin Ikuta 
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2019 4:21 PM
> > To: Wikimedia Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reviewing our brand system for our 2030 goals
> >
> >
> >
> > What real life problems would there be?
> >
> >
> >
> > On Apr 9, 2019, at 6:11 AM, Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga <
> > galder...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > The idea of rebranding Wikimedia to Wikipedia will create FAR more
> > problems than it solves, specially in places where identifying ourselves
> > with Wikipedia could create real life problems to affiliates. Let's think
> > on making our product better, because is not a brand problem, is an
> > obsolescence problem what we have.
> > > 
> > > From: Wikimedia-l  on behalf
> > of Gerard Meijssen 
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2019 12:36 PM
> > > To: Wikimedia Mailing List
> > > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reviewing our brand system for our 2030
> goals
> > >
> > > Hoi,
> > > The problem is that Wikipedia has an article bound interest. Our aim is
> > to
> > > share in the sum of all knowledge and it is about subjects. In addition
> > to
> > > this the approach and `the lessons learned` in effect are used as a
> > > template on how `other` Wikipedias are to function. This bias hinder,
> > even
> > > prevent other possible approaches.
> > >
> > > Using Wikipedia to define what Wikimedia does, enforces existing bias
> and
> > > hinders our mission.
> > > Thanks,
> > > GerardM
> > >
> > > On Tue, 9 Apr 2019 at 11:25, James Salsman  wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi Elena,
> > >>
> > >> If by "branding project" you mean replacing references to Wikimedia
> > >> with Wikipedia, that is fine with me.
> > >>
> > >> Best regards,
> > >> Jim
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 1:58 AM Elena Lappen 
> > wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Hi all,
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks to those of you who have participated in the branding project
> > >>> community consultation so far. We’ve received a lot of helpful
> feedback
> > >> via
> > >>> email, on-wiki, and in small meetings with affiliate group members
> and
> > >>> individual contributors.
> > >>>
> > >>> I posted this invitation to the project talk page last week [1], but
> > >> wanted
> > >>> to send a reminder here that we will be hosting a video conference
> > >> session
> > >>> to give people a chance to see the presentation, ask questions and
> > >> provide
> > >>> feedback.
> > >>>
> > >>> When? This Thursday, April 11th from 16:00-17:00 UTC.
> > >>>
> > >>> Where? https://bluejeans.com/540134391/browser, or call in using
> your
> > >>> closest local number [2] and enter meeting ID 540 134 391#.
> > >>>
> > >>> If you’d like to see the presentation but cannot attend, that is no
> > >>> problem—we will be posting a recording to Commons and putting the
> link
> > on
> > >>> the talk page afterwards.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks,
> > >>>
> > >>> Elena
> > >>>
> > >>> [1]
> > >>>
> > >>
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Communications/Wikimedia_brands/2030_research_and_planning/community_review#Invitation_to_join_a_video_conference_presentation
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> [2] https://www.bluejeans.com/premium-numbers
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>> Elena Lappen
> > >>> Community Relations Specialist
> > >>> Wikimedia Foundation
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 7:14 PM Zack McCune 
> > >> wrote:
> > >>>
> >  :: Apologies for cross-posting to multiple mailing lists. We want to
> > >> ensure
> >  we spread the word about this opportunity to as many people as
> > >> possible. ::
> > 
> >  Hi all,
> > 
> >  We are writing today to invite you to be a part of a community
> review
> > >> on
> >  Wikimedia brand research and strategy.
> > 
> >  Recently, the Wikimedia Foundation set out to better understand how
> > the
> >  world sees Wikimedia and Wikimedia projects as brands.[1] We wanted
> to
> > >> get
> >  a sense of the general visibility of our different projects, and
> > >> evaluate
> >  public support of our mission to spread free knowledge.
> > 
> >  We launched a global brand study to research these questions, as
> part
> > >> of
> >  our planning toward our 2030 strategic 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reviewing our brand system for our 2030 goals

[Chris Keating]

> At the occasion, we should also reconsider the expressions "chapter"
> and "user group".
> "Chapter" is more suitable for local divisions of a national
> association. And "user group" sounds just like some group. We also
> already have "user group" as a technical term in MediaWiki.
>

You may be aware that the movement strategy process is thinking about this
issue, albeit at a broader level :)

For instance one of the questions the Roles and Responsibilities group is
looking at is "What governance and organizational structures do we need to
support the delivery of the strategic direction?"(1)

You will notice that there is no mention of chapters, user groups or indeed
the WMF in this question. That's because there is no presumption that any
of those bodies (or types of bodies) will continue to exist in their
current form - the changes from the strategy process may well be much more
profound than finessing the names of categories of entity that currently
exist.

Thanks,

Chris



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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reviewing our brand system for our 2030 goals

[Ziko van Dijk]

At the occasion, we should also reconsider the expressions "chapter"
and "user group".
"Chapter" is more suitable for local divisions of a national
association. And "user group" sounds just like some group. We also
already have "user group" as a technical term in MediaWiki.
Kind regards
Ziko


Am Di., 9. Apr. 2019 um 18:17 Uhr schrieb Joseph Seddon :
>
> From what I know:
> * The global brand won't stop Wikidata being Wikidata.
> * Wikimedia Russia won't necessarily become Wikipedia Russia
>
> Seddon
>
> On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 4:56 PM Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga <
> galder...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Think of Wikipedia Russia convincing Russian government that they are not
> > really Wikipedia Russia.
> > 
> > From: Wikimedia-l  on behalf of
> > Benjamin Ikuta 
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2019 4:21 PM
> > To: Wikimedia Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reviewing our brand system for our 2030 goals
> >
> >
> >
> > What real life problems would there be?
> >
> >
> >
> > On Apr 9, 2019, at 6:11 AM, Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga <
> > galder...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > The idea of rebranding Wikimedia to Wikipedia will create FAR more
> > problems than it solves, specially in places where identifying ourselves
> > with Wikipedia could create real life problems to affiliates. Let's think
> > on making our product better, because is not a brand problem, is an
> > obsolescence problem what we have.
> > > 
> > > From: Wikimedia-l  on behalf
> > of Gerard Meijssen 
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2019 12:36 PM
> > > To: Wikimedia Mailing List
> > > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reviewing our brand system for our 2030 goals
> > >
> > > Hoi,
> > > The problem is that Wikipedia has an article bound interest. Our aim is
> > to
> > > share in the sum of all knowledge and it is about subjects. In addition
> > to
> > > this the approach and `the lessons learned` in effect are used as a
> > > template on how `other` Wikipedias are to function. This bias hinder,
> > even
> > > prevent other possible approaches.
> > >
> > > Using Wikipedia to define what Wikimedia does, enforces existing bias and
> > > hinders our mission.
> > > Thanks,
> > > GerardM
> > >
> > > On Tue, 9 Apr 2019 at 11:25, James Salsman  wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi Elena,
> > >>
> > >> If by "branding project" you mean replacing references to Wikimedia
> > >> with Wikipedia, that is fine with me.
> > >>
> > >> Best regards,
> > >> Jim
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 1:58 AM Elena Lappen 
> > wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Hi all,
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks to those of you who have participated in the branding project
> > >>> community consultation so far. We’ve received a lot of helpful feedback
> > >> via
> > >>> email, on-wiki, and in small meetings with affiliate group members and
> > >>> individual contributors.
> > >>>
> > >>> I posted this invitation to the project talk page last week [1], but
> > >> wanted
> > >>> to send a reminder here that we will be hosting a video conference
> > >> session
> > >>> to give people a chance to see the presentation, ask questions and
> > >> provide
> > >>> feedback.
> > >>>
> > >>> When? This Thursday, April 11th from 16:00-17:00 UTC.
> > >>>
> > >>> Where? https://bluejeans.com/540134391/browser, or call in using your
> > >>> closest local number [2] and enter meeting ID 540 134 391#.
> > >>>
> > >>> If you’d like to see the presentation but cannot attend, that is no
> > >>> problem—we will be posting a recording to Commons and putting the link
> > on
> > >>> the talk page afterwards.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks,
> > >>>
> > >>> Elena
> > >>>
> > >>> [1]
> > >>>
> > >>
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Communications/Wikimedia_brands/2030_research_and_planning/community_review#Invitation_to_join_a_video_conference_presentation
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> [2] https://www.bluejeans.com/premium-numbers
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>> Elena Lappen
> > >>> Community Relations Specialist
> > >>> Wikimedia Foundation
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 7:14 PM Zack McCune 
> > >> wrote:
> > >>>
> >  :: Apologies for cross-posting to multiple mailing lists. We want to
> > >> ensure
> >  we spread the word about this opportunity to as many people as
> > >> possible. ::
> > 
> >  Hi all,
> > 
> >  We are writing today to invite you to be a part of a community review
> > >> on
> >  Wikimedia brand research and strategy.
> > 
> >  Recently, the Wikimedia Foundation set out to better understand how
> > the
> >  world sees Wikimedia and Wikimedia projects as brands.[1] We wanted to
> > >> get
> >  a sense of the general visibility of our different projects, and
> > >> evaluate
> >  public support of our mission to spread free knowledge.
> > 
> >  We launched a global brand study to research these questions, as part
> > >> of
> >  our planning toward our 2030 strategic 

[Wikimedia-l] Update on Programs & Events Dashboard

[Sage Ross]

The Wikimedia Community Tech team is in the final stretch of their
Community Wishlist 2017 work and recently announced the beta launch of
the 'Event Metrics' project they worked on for the #3 wish. Since the
initial proposal [1] was to improve Wiki Education's program
organizing and metrics tool Programs & Events Dashboard [2], we've
heard from a lot of people worried that Event Metrics [3] is supposed
to be a replacement for the Dashboard or that the Dashboard is going
away.

To clear up any potential confusion: Wiki Education will keep
supporting Programs & Events Dashboard as part of our commitment to
making our technology work as useful as possible to the rest of the
Wikimedia movement. Our newly-expanded Technology department, along
with many awesome volunteers and interns, is more committed than ever
to improving the Dashboard as tool for global programs, because it's
been so essential for many of you.

Programs & Events Dashboard recently passed the milestone of 4,000
programs, from more than 100 different wikis, and more than 28,000
editors have logged in [4].

For those who haven't used it before, or haven't done so in a while,
some of the useful features include:

* Account registration for in-person edit-a-thons  — to avoid getting
stopped by the IP limit for new accounts
* Automatically updated metrics for articles edited, number of edits,
Commons uploads, etc. [5]
* Additional downloadable metrics, including 7-day retention of new
editors, the complete list of edits made
* For English and Portuguese Wikipedia, tools for monitoring which
articles are involved in deletion processes [6]
* Translatable, wiki-editable training modules for newcomers [7]
* For all the languages with ORES "article quality" models, extra data
and visualizations based on ORES estimates

We have some additional features planned for the near future as well:

* Metrics for number of citations added
* Wikidata metrics for claims created and references added

If you have feature requests or complaints, please do let us know
either on the Meta talk page [8] or by opening an issue on GitHub [9].
Our team is small, so we rely heavily on the feedback we get from
Programs & Events Dashboard users to identify problems and make
improvements.

-Sage Ross
Wiki Education



[1] 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey_2017/Programs_and_events/Development_of_the_programs_and_events_dashboard
[2] https://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org/
[3] https://eventmetrics.wmflabs.org/
[4] https://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org/usage
[5] 
https://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org/courses/Wikimedia_ZA/Wiki_Loves_Africa_2019_South_Africa/home
[6] https://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org/campaigns/artfeminism_2019/alerts
[7] 
https://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org/training/editing-wikipedia/editing-basics/welcome-new-editor
[8] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Programs_%26_Events_Dashboard
[9] 
https://github.com/WikiEducationFoundation/WikiEduDashboard/issues/new/choose

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reviewing our brand system for our 2030 goals

[Joseph Seddon]

From what I know:
* The global brand won't stop Wikidata being Wikidata.
* Wikimedia Russia won't necessarily become Wikipedia Russia

Seddon

On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 4:56 PM Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga <
galder...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Think of Wikipedia Russia convincing Russian government that they are not
> really Wikipedia Russia.
> 
> From: Wikimedia-l  on behalf of
> Benjamin Ikuta 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2019 4:21 PM
> To: Wikimedia Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reviewing our brand system for our 2030 goals
>
>
>
> What real life problems would there be?
>
>
>
> On Apr 9, 2019, at 6:11 AM, Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga <
> galder...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > The idea of rebranding Wikimedia to Wikipedia will create FAR more
> problems than it solves, specially in places where identifying ourselves
> with Wikipedia could create real life problems to affiliates. Let's think
> on making our product better, because is not a brand problem, is an
> obsolescence problem what we have.
> > 
> > From: Wikimedia-l  on behalf
> of Gerard Meijssen 
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2019 12:36 PM
> > To: Wikimedia Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reviewing our brand system for our 2030 goals
> >
> > Hoi,
> > The problem is that Wikipedia has an article bound interest. Our aim is
> to
> > share in the sum of all knowledge and it is about subjects. In addition
> to
> > this the approach and `the lessons learned` in effect are used as a
> > template on how `other` Wikipedias are to function. This bias hinder,
> even
> > prevent other possible approaches.
> >
> > Using Wikipedia to define what Wikimedia does, enforces existing bias and
> > hinders our mission.
> > Thanks,
> > GerardM
> >
> > On Tue, 9 Apr 2019 at 11:25, James Salsman  wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Elena,
> >>
> >> If by "branding project" you mean replacing references to Wikimedia
> >> with Wikipedia, that is fine with me.
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >> Jim
> >>
> >> On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 1:58 AM Elena Lappen 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi all,
> >>>
> >>> Thanks to those of you who have participated in the branding project
> >>> community consultation so far. We’ve received a lot of helpful feedback
> >> via
> >>> email, on-wiki, and in small meetings with affiliate group members and
> >>> individual contributors.
> >>>
> >>> I posted this invitation to the project talk page last week [1], but
> >> wanted
> >>> to send a reminder here that we will be hosting a video conference
> >> session
> >>> to give people a chance to see the presentation, ask questions and
> >> provide
> >>> feedback.
> >>>
> >>> When? This Thursday, April 11th from 16:00-17:00 UTC.
> >>>
> >>> Where? https://bluejeans.com/540134391/browser, or call in using your
> >>> closest local number [2] and enter meeting ID 540 134 391#.
> >>>
> >>> If you’d like to see the presentation but cannot attend, that is no
> >>> problem—we will be posting a recording to Commons and putting the link
> on
> >>> the talk page afterwards.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> Elena
> >>>
> >>> [1]
> >>>
> >>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Communications/Wikimedia_brands/2030_research_and_planning/community_review#Invitation_to_join_a_video_conference_presentation
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> [2] https://www.bluejeans.com/premium-numbers
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Elena Lappen
> >>> Community Relations Specialist
> >>> Wikimedia Foundation
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 7:14 PM Zack McCune 
> >> wrote:
> >>>
>  :: Apologies for cross-posting to multiple mailing lists. We want to
> >> ensure
>  we spread the word about this opportunity to as many people as
> >> possible. ::
> 
>  Hi all,
> 
>  We are writing today to invite you to be a part of a community review
> >> on
>  Wikimedia brand research and strategy.
> 
>  Recently, the Wikimedia Foundation set out to better understand how
> the
>  world sees Wikimedia and Wikimedia projects as brands.[1] We wanted to
> >> get
>  a sense of the general visibility of our different projects, and
> >> evaluate
>  public support of our mission to spread free knowledge.
> 
>  We launched a global brand study to research these questions, as part
> >> of
>  our planning toward our 2030 strategic goals.[2] The study was
> >> commissioned
>  by the Board, carried out by the brand consultancy Wolff Olins, and
>  directed by the Foundation’s Communications team.[3][4] It collected
>  perspectives from the internet users of seven countries (India, China,
>  Nigeria, Egypt, Germany, Mexico and the US) on Wikimedia projects and
>  values.
> 
>  The study revealed some interesting trends:
> 
>  - Awareness of Wikipedia is above 80% in Western Europe and North
> >> America.
> 
>  - Awareness of Wikipedia averages above 40% in emerging markets,[5]
> >> and is
>  fast growing.
> 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reviewing our brand system for our 2030 goals

[Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga]

Think of Wikipedia Russia convincing Russian government that they are not 
really Wikipedia Russia.

From: Wikimedia-l  on behalf of 
Benjamin Ikuta 
Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2019 4:21 PM
To: Wikimedia Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reviewing our brand system for our 2030 goals



What real life problems would there be?



On Apr 9, 2019, at 6:11 AM, Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga  
wrote:

> The idea of rebranding Wikimedia to Wikipedia will create FAR more problems 
> than it solves, specially in places where identifying ourselves with 
> Wikipedia could create real life problems to affiliates. Let's think on 
> making our product better, because is not a brand problem, is an obsolescence 
> problem what we have.
> 
> From: Wikimedia-l  on behalf of 
> Gerard Meijssen 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2019 12:36 PM
> To: Wikimedia Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reviewing our brand system for our 2030 goals
>
> Hoi,
> The problem is that Wikipedia has an article bound interest. Our aim is to
> share in the sum of all knowledge and it is about subjects. In addition to
> this the approach and `the lessons learned` in effect are used as a
> template on how `other` Wikipedias are to function. This bias hinder, even
> prevent other possible approaches.
>
> Using Wikipedia to define what Wikimedia does, enforces existing bias and
> hinders our mission.
> Thanks,
> GerardM
>
> On Tue, 9 Apr 2019 at 11:25, James Salsman  wrote:
>
>> Hi Elena,
>>
>> If by "branding project" you mean replacing references to Wikimedia
>> with Wikipedia, that is fine with me.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Jim
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 1:58 AM Elena Lappen  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Thanks to those of you who have participated in the branding project
>>> community consultation so far. We’ve received a lot of helpful feedback
>> via
>>> email, on-wiki, and in small meetings with affiliate group members and
>>> individual contributors.
>>>
>>> I posted this invitation to the project talk page last week [1], but
>> wanted
>>> to send a reminder here that we will be hosting a video conference
>> session
>>> to give people a chance to see the presentation, ask questions and
>> provide
>>> feedback.
>>>
>>> When? This Thursday, April 11th from 16:00-17:00 UTC.
>>>
>>> Where? https://bluejeans.com/540134391/browser, or call in using your
>>> closest local number [2] and enter meeting ID 540 134 391#.
>>>
>>> If you’d like to see the presentation but cannot attend, that is no
>>> problem—we will be posting a recording to Commons and putting the link on
>>> the talk page afterwards.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Elena
>>>
>>> [1]
>>>
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Communications/Wikimedia_brands/2030_research_and_planning/community_review#Invitation_to_join_a_video_conference_presentation
>>>
>>>
>>> [2] https://www.bluejeans.com/premium-numbers
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Elena Lappen
>>> Community Relations Specialist
>>> Wikimedia Foundation
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 7:14 PM Zack McCune 
>> wrote:
>>>
 :: Apologies for cross-posting to multiple mailing lists. We want to
>> ensure
 we spread the word about this opportunity to as many people as
>> possible. ::

 Hi all,

 We are writing today to invite you to be a part of a community review
>> on
 Wikimedia brand research and strategy.

 Recently, the Wikimedia Foundation set out to better understand how the
 world sees Wikimedia and Wikimedia projects as brands.[1] We wanted to
>> get
 a sense of the general visibility of our different projects, and
>> evaluate
 public support of our mission to spread free knowledge.

 We launched a global brand study to research these questions, as part
>> of
 our planning toward our 2030 strategic goals.[2] The study was
>> commissioned
 by the Board, carried out by the brand consultancy Wolff Olins, and
 directed by the Foundation’s Communications team.[3][4] It collected
 perspectives from the internet users of seven countries (India, China,
 Nigeria, Egypt, Germany, Mexico and the US) on Wikimedia projects and
 values.

 The study revealed some interesting trends:

 - Awareness of Wikipedia is above 80% in Western Europe and North
>> America.

 - Awareness of Wikipedia averages above 40% in emerging markets,[5]
>> and is
 fast growing.

 - There is awareness of other projects, but was significantly lower.
>> For
 example, awareness of Wikisource was at 30%, Wiktionary at 25%,
>> Wikidata at
 20%, and Wikivoyage at 8%.

 - There was significant confusion around the name Wikimedia.
>> Respondents
 reported they had either not heard of it, or extrapolated its
>> relationship
 to Wikipedia.

 - In spite of lack of awareness about Wikimedia, respondents showed a
>> high
 level of support for our mission.

 

[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] This Month in GLAM: March 2019

[The 'This Month in GLAM' team]

*This Month in GLAM* is a monthly newsletter documenting recent happenings
within the GLAM project, such as content donations, residencies, events and
more. GLAM is an acronym of *G*alleries, *L*ibraries, *A*rchives and *M*useums.
You can find more information on the project at glamwiki.org.

*This Month in GLAM – Issue III, Volume IX – March 2019*
--


Albania report: WikiFilmat SQ - new articles about the Albanian movie
industry!
http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/March_2019/Contents/Albania_report

Armenia report: Art+Feminism+GLAM, Collaboration with Hovhannes Toumanian
museum
http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/March_2019/Contents/Armenia_report

Australia report: Art+Feminism 2019 in Australia
http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/March_2019/Contents/Australia_report

Brazil report: The GLAM at USP Museum of Veterinary Anatomy: a history of
learnings and improvements
http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/March_2019/Contents/Brazil_report

Colombia report: Moving GLAM institutions inside and outside Colombia
http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/March_2019/Contents/Colombia_report

Czech Republic report: Edit-a-thon Prachatice
http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/March_2019/Contents/Czech_Republic_report

France report: Wiki day at the Institut national d'histoire de l'art; Age
of wiki at the Musée Saint-Raymond
http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/March_2019/Contents/France_report

India report: Gujarat Vishw Kosh Trust content donation to Wikimedia
http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/March_2019/Contents/India_report

Italy report: Italian librarians in Milan
http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/March_2019/Contents/Italy_report

Macedonia report: WikiLeague: Edit-a-thon on German Literature
http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/March_2019/Contents/Macedonia_report

Netherlands report: WikiconNL, International Womens Day and working
together with Amnesty, Field study Dutch Libraries and Wikimedia
http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/March_2019/Contents/Netherlands_report

Serbia report: Spring residences and a wiki competition
http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/March_2019/Contents/Serbia_report

Sweden report: UNESCO; Working life museums; Swedish Performing Arts Agency
shares historic music; Upload of glass plates photographs
http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/March_2019/Contents/Sweden_report

UK report: Wiki-people and Wiki-museum-data
http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/March_2019/Contents/UK_report

USA report: Women's History Month and The Met has two Wikimedians in the
house
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Wikidata report: Go Siobhan!
http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/March_2019/Contents/Wikidata_report

WMF GLAM report: Structured Data on Wikimedia Commons; Bengali Wikisource
case study
http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/March_2019/Contents/WMF_GLAM_report

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reviewing our brand system for our 2030 goals

[Gerard Meijssen]

Hoi,
Wikipedia is one brand. In some of our "markets" Wikibooks is of greater
relevance. We destroy important brands that are important in the
alphabetisation of real people.

When you think that all there is is Wikipedia. Fine but you are wrong.
Commons will gain relevance because of this !@#$$% legislation that makes
copyright even more problematic. Commons is the biggest public domain only
repository of illustrations. Given that with the Wikidatafication it
becomes easier to open up the Commons content, we have yet another brand
that is not Wikipedia.

Wikipedia is about articles and not about subjects. Wikidata is about
subjects, Commons is about subjects and all Wikipedias together are about
subjects. In the current understanding of most people Wikipedia is a single
entity never mind the language. It is this approach, this bias that will
hurt us badly, it already does.

So yes, real life problems.
Thanks,
  GerardM

On Tue, 9 Apr 2019 at 16:21, Benjamin Ikuta  wrote:

>
>
> What real life problems would there be?
>
>
>
> On Apr 9, 2019, at 6:11 AM, Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga <
> galder...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > The idea of rebranding Wikimedia to Wikipedia will create FAR more
> problems than it solves, specially in places where identifying ourselves
> with Wikipedia could create real life problems to affiliates. Let's think
> on making our product better, because is not a brand problem, is an
> obsolescence problem what we have.
> > 
> > From: Wikimedia-l  on behalf
> of Gerard Meijssen 
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2019 12:36 PM
> > To: Wikimedia Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reviewing our brand system for our 2030 goals
> >
> > Hoi,
> > The problem is that Wikipedia has an article bound interest. Our aim is
> to
> > share in the sum of all knowledge and it is about subjects. In addition
> to
> > this the approach and `the lessons learned` in effect are used as a
> > template on how `other` Wikipedias are to function. This bias hinder,
> even
> > prevent other possible approaches.
> >
> > Using Wikipedia to define what Wikimedia does, enforces existing bias and
> > hinders our mission.
> > Thanks,
> > GerardM
> >
> > On Tue, 9 Apr 2019 at 11:25, James Salsman  wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Elena,
> >>
> >> If by "branding project" you mean replacing references to Wikimedia
> >> with Wikipedia, that is fine with me.
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >> Jim
> >>
> >> On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 1:58 AM Elena Lappen 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi all,
> >>>
> >>> Thanks to those of you who have participated in the branding project
> >>> community consultation so far. We’ve received a lot of helpful feedback
> >> via
> >>> email, on-wiki, and in small meetings with affiliate group members and
> >>> individual contributors.
> >>>
> >>> I posted this invitation to the project talk page last week [1], but
> >> wanted
> >>> to send a reminder here that we will be hosting a video conference
> >> session
> >>> to give people a chance to see the presentation, ask questions and
> >> provide
> >>> feedback.
> >>>
> >>> When? This Thursday, April 11th from 16:00-17:00 UTC.
> >>>
> >>> Where? https://bluejeans.com/540134391/browser, or call in using your
> >>> closest local number [2] and enter meeting ID 540 134 391#.
> >>>
> >>> If you’d like to see the presentation but cannot attend, that is no
> >>> problem—we will be posting a recording to Commons and putting the link
> on
> >>> the talk page afterwards.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> Elena
> >>>
> >>> [1]
> >>>
> >>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Communications/Wikimedia_brands/2030_research_and_planning/community_review#Invitation_to_join_a_video_conference_presentation
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> [2] https://www.bluejeans.com/premium-numbers
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Elena Lappen
> >>> Community Relations Specialist
> >>> Wikimedia Foundation
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 7:14 PM Zack McCune 
> >> wrote:
> >>>
>  :: Apologies for cross-posting to multiple mailing lists. We want to
> >> ensure
>  we spread the word about this opportunity to as many people as
> >> possible. ::
> 
>  Hi all,
> 
>  We are writing today to invite you to be a part of a community review
> >> on
>  Wikimedia brand research and strategy.
> 
>  Recently, the Wikimedia Foundation set out to better understand how
> the
>  world sees Wikimedia and Wikimedia projects as brands.[1] We wanted to
> >> get
>  a sense of the general visibility of our different projects, and
> >> evaluate
>  public support of our mission to spread free knowledge.
> 
>  We launched a global brand study to research these questions, as part
> >> of
>  our planning toward our 2030 strategic goals.[2] The study was
> >> commissioned
>  by the Board, carried out by the brand consultancy Wolff Olins, and
>  directed by the Foundation’s Communications team.[3][4] It collected
>  perspectives 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reviewing our brand system for our 2030 goals

[Benjamin Ikuta]

What real life problems would there be? 



On Apr 9, 2019, at 6:11 AM, Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga  
wrote:

> The idea of rebranding Wikimedia to Wikipedia will create FAR more problems 
> than it solves, specially in places where identifying ourselves with 
> Wikipedia could create real life problems to affiliates. Let's think on 
> making our product better, because is not a brand problem, is an obsolescence 
> problem what we have.
> 
> From: Wikimedia-l  on behalf of 
> Gerard Meijssen 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2019 12:36 PM
> To: Wikimedia Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reviewing our brand system for our 2030 goals
> 
> Hoi,
> The problem is that Wikipedia has an article bound interest. Our aim is to
> share in the sum of all knowledge and it is about subjects. In addition to
> this the approach and `the lessons learned` in effect are used as a
> template on how `other` Wikipedias are to function. This bias hinder, even
> prevent other possible approaches.
> 
> Using Wikipedia to define what Wikimedia does, enforces existing bias and
> hinders our mission.
> Thanks,
> GerardM
> 
> On Tue, 9 Apr 2019 at 11:25, James Salsman  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Elena,
>> 
>> If by "branding project" you mean replacing references to Wikimedia
>> with Wikipedia, that is fine with me.
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> Jim
>> 
>> On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 1:58 AM Elena Lappen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Thanks to those of you who have participated in the branding project
>>> community consultation so far. We’ve received a lot of helpful feedback
>> via
>>> email, on-wiki, and in small meetings with affiliate group members and
>>> individual contributors.
>>> 
>>> I posted this invitation to the project talk page last week [1], but
>> wanted
>>> to send a reminder here that we will be hosting a video conference
>> session
>>> to give people a chance to see the presentation, ask questions and
>> provide
>>> feedback.
>>> 
>>> When? This Thursday, April 11th from 16:00-17:00 UTC.
>>> 
>>> Where? https://bluejeans.com/540134391/browser, or call in using your
>>> closest local number [2] and enter meeting ID 540 134 391#.
>>> 
>>> If you’d like to see the presentation but cannot attend, that is no
>>> problem—we will be posting a recording to Commons and putting the link on
>>> the talk page afterwards.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Elena
>>> 
>>> [1]
>>> 
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Communications/Wikimedia_brands/2030_research_and_planning/community_review#Invitation_to_join_a_video_conference_presentation
>>> 
>>> 
>>> [2] https://www.bluejeans.com/premium-numbers
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Elena Lappen
>>> Community Relations Specialist
>>> Wikimedia Foundation
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 7:14 PM Zack McCune 
>> wrote:
>>> 
 :: Apologies for cross-posting to multiple mailing lists. We want to
>> ensure
 we spread the word about this opportunity to as many people as
>> possible. ::
 
 Hi all,
 
 We are writing today to invite you to be a part of a community review
>> on
 Wikimedia brand research and strategy.
 
 Recently, the Wikimedia Foundation set out to better understand how the
 world sees Wikimedia and Wikimedia projects as brands.[1] We wanted to
>> get
 a sense of the general visibility of our different projects, and
>> evaluate
 public support of our mission to spread free knowledge.
 
 We launched a global brand study to research these questions, as part
>> of
 our planning toward our 2030 strategic goals.[2] The study was
>> commissioned
 by the Board, carried out by the brand consultancy Wolff Olins, and
 directed by the Foundation’s Communications team.[3][4] It collected
 perspectives from the internet users of seven countries (India, China,
 Nigeria, Egypt, Germany, Mexico and the US) on Wikimedia projects and
 values.
 
 The study revealed some interesting trends:
 
 - Awareness of Wikipedia is above 80% in Western Europe and North
>> America.
 
 - Awareness of Wikipedia averages above 40% in emerging markets,[5]
>> and is
 fast growing.
 
 - There is awareness of other projects, but was significantly lower.
>> For
 example, awareness of Wikisource was at 30%, Wiktionary at 25%,
>> Wikidata at
 20%, and Wikivoyage at 8%.
 
 - There was significant confusion around the name Wikimedia.
>> Respondents
 reported they had either not heard of it, or extrapolated its
>> relationship
 to Wikipedia.
 
 - In spite of lack of awareness about Wikimedia, respondents showed a
>> high
 level of support for our mission.
 
 Following from these research insights, the Wolff Olins team also made
>> a
 strategic suggestion to refine the Wikimedia brand system.[6] The
 suggestions include:
 
 - Use Wikipedia as the central movement brand rather than Wikimedia.
 
 - Provide clearer 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reviewing our brand system for our 2030 goals

[Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga]

The idea of rebranding Wikimedia to Wikipedia will create FAR more problems 
than it solves, specially in places where identifying ourselves with Wikipedia 
could create real life problems to affiliates. Let's think on making our 
product better, because is not a brand problem, is an obsolescence problem what 
we have.

From: Wikimedia-l  on behalf of Gerard 
Meijssen 
Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2019 12:36 PM
To: Wikimedia Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reviewing our brand system for our 2030 goals

Hoi,
The problem is that Wikipedia has an article bound interest. Our aim is to
share in the sum of all knowledge and it is about subjects. In addition to
this the approach and `the lessons learned` in effect are used as a
template on how `other` Wikipedias are to function. This bias hinder, even
prevent other possible approaches.

Using Wikipedia to define what Wikimedia does, enforces existing bias and
hinders our mission.
Thanks,
 GerardM

On Tue, 9 Apr 2019 at 11:25, James Salsman  wrote:

> Hi Elena,
>
> If by "branding project" you mean replacing references to Wikimedia
> with Wikipedia, that is fine with me.
>
> Best regards,
> Jim
>
> On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 1:58 AM Elena Lappen  wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Thanks to those of you who have participated in the branding project
> > community consultation so far. We’ve received a lot of helpful feedback
> via
> > email, on-wiki, and in small meetings with affiliate group members and
> > individual contributors.
> >
> > I posted this invitation to the project talk page last week [1], but
> wanted
> > to send a reminder here that we will be hosting a video conference
> session
> > to give people a chance to see the presentation, ask questions and
> provide
> > feedback.
> >
> > When? This Thursday, April 11th from 16:00-17:00 UTC.
> >
> > Where? https://bluejeans.com/540134391/browser, or call in using your
> > closest local number [2] and enter meeting ID 540 134 391#.
> >
> > If you’d like to see the presentation but cannot attend, that is no
> > problem—we will be posting a recording to Commons and putting the link on
> > the talk page afterwards.
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Elena
> >
> > [1]
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Communications/Wikimedia_brands/2030_research_and_planning/community_review#Invitation_to_join_a_video_conference_presentation
> >
> >
> > [2] https://www.bluejeans.com/premium-numbers
> >
> >
> > --
> > Elena Lappen
> > Community Relations Specialist
> > Wikimedia Foundation
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 7:14 PM Zack McCune 
> wrote:
> >
> > > :: Apologies for cross-posting to multiple mailing lists. We want to
> ensure
> > > we spread the word about this opportunity to as many people as
> possible. ::
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > We are writing today to invite you to be a part of a community review
> on
> > > Wikimedia brand research and strategy.
> > >
> > > Recently, the Wikimedia Foundation set out to better understand how the
> > > world sees Wikimedia and Wikimedia projects as brands.[1] We wanted to
> get
> > > a sense of the general visibility of our different projects, and
> evaluate
> > > public support of our mission to spread free knowledge.
> > >
> > > We launched a global brand study to research these questions, as part
> of
> > > our planning toward our 2030 strategic goals.[2] The study was
> commissioned
> > > by the Board, carried out by the brand consultancy Wolff Olins, and
> > > directed by the Foundation’s Communications team.[3][4] It collected
> > > perspectives from the internet users of seven countries (India, China,
> > > Nigeria, Egypt, Germany, Mexico and the US) on Wikimedia projects and
> > > values.
> > >
> > > The study revealed some interesting trends:
> > >
> > > - Awareness of Wikipedia is above 80% in Western Europe and North
> America.
> > >
> > > - Awareness of Wikipedia averages above 40% in emerging markets,[5]
> and is
> > > fast growing.
> > >
> > > - There is awareness of other projects, but was significantly lower.
> For
> > > example, awareness of Wikisource was at 30%, Wiktionary at 25%,
> Wikidata at
> > > 20%, and Wikivoyage at 8%.
> > >
> > > - There was significant confusion around the name Wikimedia.
> Respondents
> > > reported they had either not heard of it, or extrapolated its
> relationship
> > > to Wikipedia.
> > >
> > > - In spite of lack of awareness about Wikimedia, respondents showed a
> high
> > > level of support for our mission.
> > >
> > > Following from these research insights, the Wolff Olins team also made
> a
> > > strategic suggestion to refine the Wikimedia brand system.[6] The
> > > suggestions include:
> > >
> > > - Use Wikipedia as the central movement brand rather than Wikimedia.
> > >
> > > - Provide clearer connections to the Movement projects from Wikipedia
> to
> > > drive increased awareness, usage and contributions to smaller projects.
> > >
> > > - Retain Wikimedia project names, 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reviewing our brand system for our 2030 goals

[Gerard Meijssen]

Hoi,
The problem is that Wikipedia has an article bound interest. Our aim is to
share in the sum of all knowledge and it is about subjects. In addition to
this the approach and `the lessons learned` in effect are used as a
template on how `other` Wikipedias are to function. This bias hinder, even
prevent other possible approaches.

Using Wikipedia to define what Wikimedia does, enforces existing bias and
hinders our mission.
Thanks,
 GerardM

On Tue, 9 Apr 2019 at 11:25, James Salsman  wrote:

> Hi Elena,
>
> If by "branding project" you mean replacing references to Wikimedia
> with Wikipedia, that is fine with me.
>
> Best regards,
> Jim
>
> On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 1:58 AM Elena Lappen  wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Thanks to those of you who have participated in the branding project
> > community consultation so far. We’ve received a lot of helpful feedback
> via
> > email, on-wiki, and in small meetings with affiliate group members and
> > individual contributors.
> >
> > I posted this invitation to the project talk page last week [1], but
> wanted
> > to send a reminder here that we will be hosting a video conference
> session
> > to give people a chance to see the presentation, ask questions and
> provide
> > feedback.
> >
> > When? This Thursday, April 11th from 16:00-17:00 UTC.
> >
> > Where? https://bluejeans.com/540134391/browser, or call in using your
> > closest local number [2] and enter meeting ID 540 134 391#.
> >
> > If you’d like to see the presentation but cannot attend, that is no
> > problem—we will be posting a recording to Commons and putting the link on
> > the talk page afterwards.
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Elena
> >
> > [1]
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Communications/Wikimedia_brands/2030_research_and_planning/community_review#Invitation_to_join_a_video_conference_presentation
> >
> >
> > [2] https://www.bluejeans.com/premium-numbers
> >
> >
> > --
> > Elena Lappen
> > Community Relations Specialist
> > Wikimedia Foundation
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 7:14 PM Zack McCune 
> wrote:
> >
> > > :: Apologies for cross-posting to multiple mailing lists. We want to
> ensure
> > > we spread the word about this opportunity to as many people as
> possible. ::
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > We are writing today to invite you to be a part of a community review
> on
> > > Wikimedia brand research and strategy.
> > >
> > > Recently, the Wikimedia Foundation set out to better understand how the
> > > world sees Wikimedia and Wikimedia projects as brands.[1] We wanted to
> get
> > > a sense of the general visibility of our different projects, and
> evaluate
> > > public support of our mission to spread free knowledge.
> > >
> > > We launched a global brand study to research these questions, as part
> of
> > > our planning toward our 2030 strategic goals.[2] The study was
> commissioned
> > > by the Board, carried out by the brand consultancy Wolff Olins, and
> > > directed by the Foundation’s Communications team.[3][4] It collected
> > > perspectives from the internet users of seven countries (India, China,
> > > Nigeria, Egypt, Germany, Mexico and the US) on Wikimedia projects and
> > > values.
> > >
> > > The study revealed some interesting trends:
> > >
> > > - Awareness of Wikipedia is above 80% in Western Europe and North
> America.
> > >
> > > - Awareness of Wikipedia averages above 40% in emerging markets,[5]
> and is
> > > fast growing.
> > >
> > > - There is awareness of other projects, but was significantly lower.
> For
> > > example, awareness of Wikisource was at 30%, Wiktionary at 25%,
> Wikidata at
> > > 20%, and Wikivoyage at 8%.
> > >
> > > - There was significant confusion around the name Wikimedia.
> Respondents
> > > reported they had either not heard of it, or extrapolated its
> relationship
> > > to Wikipedia.
> > >
> > > - In spite of lack of awareness about Wikimedia, respondents showed a
> high
> > > level of support for our mission.
> > >
> > > Following from these research insights, the Wolff Olins team also made
> a
> > > strategic suggestion to refine the Wikimedia brand system.[6] The
> > > suggestions include:
> > >
> > > - Use Wikipedia as the central movement brand rather than Wikimedia.
> > >
> > > - Provide clearer connections to the Movement projects from Wikipedia
> to
> > > drive increased awareness, usage and contributions to smaller projects.
> > >
> > > - Retain Wikimedia project names, with the exception of Wikimedia
> Commons
> > > which is recommended to be shortened to Wikicommons to be consistent
> with
> > > other projects.
> > >
> > > - Explore new naming conventions for the Foundation and affiliate
> groups
> > > that use Wikipedia rather than Wikimedia.
> > >
> > > - Consider expository taglines and other naming conventions to
> reassert the
> > > connections between projects (e.g. “__ - A Wikipedia project”).
> > >
> > > This is not a new idea.[7][8]
> > >
> > > By definition, Wikimedia brands are shared 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reviewing our brand system for our 2030 goals

[James Salsman]

Hi Elena,

If by "branding project" you mean replacing references to Wikimedia
with Wikipedia, that is fine with me.

Best regards,
Jim

On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 1:58 AM Elena Lappen  wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Thanks to those of you who have participated in the branding project
> community consultation so far. We’ve received a lot of helpful feedback via
> email, on-wiki, and in small meetings with affiliate group members and
> individual contributors.
>
> I posted this invitation to the project talk page last week [1], but wanted
> to send a reminder here that we will be hosting a video conference session
> to give people a chance to see the presentation, ask questions and provide
> feedback.
>
> When? This Thursday, April 11th from 16:00-17:00 UTC.
>
> Where? https://bluejeans.com/540134391/browser, or call in using your
> closest local number [2] and enter meeting ID 540 134 391#.
>
> If you’d like to see the presentation but cannot attend, that is no
> problem—we will be posting a recording to Commons and putting the link on
> the talk page afterwards.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Elena
>
> [1]
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Communications/Wikimedia_brands/2030_research_and_planning/community_review#Invitation_to_join_a_video_conference_presentation
>
>
> [2] https://www.bluejeans.com/premium-numbers
>
>
> --
> Elena Lappen
> Community Relations Specialist
> Wikimedia Foundation
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 7:14 PM Zack McCune  wrote:
>
> > :: Apologies for cross-posting to multiple mailing lists. We want to ensure
> > we spread the word about this opportunity to as many people as possible. ::
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > We are writing today to invite you to be a part of a community review on
> > Wikimedia brand research and strategy.
> >
> > Recently, the Wikimedia Foundation set out to better understand how the
> > world sees Wikimedia and Wikimedia projects as brands.[1] We wanted to get
> > a sense of the general visibility of our different projects, and evaluate
> > public support of our mission to spread free knowledge.
> >
> > We launched a global brand study to research these questions, as part of
> > our planning toward our 2030 strategic goals.[2] The study was commissioned
> > by the Board, carried out by the brand consultancy Wolff Olins, and
> > directed by the Foundation’s Communications team.[3][4] It collected
> > perspectives from the internet users of seven countries (India, China,
> > Nigeria, Egypt, Germany, Mexico and the US) on Wikimedia projects and
> > values.
> >
> > The study revealed some interesting trends:
> >
> > - Awareness of Wikipedia is above 80% in Western Europe and North America.
> >
> > - Awareness of Wikipedia averages above 40% in emerging markets,[5] and is
> > fast growing.
> >
> > - There is awareness of other projects, but was significantly lower. For
> > example, awareness of Wikisource was at 30%, Wiktionary at 25%, Wikidata at
> > 20%, and Wikivoyage at 8%.
> >
> > - There was significant confusion around the name Wikimedia. Respondents
> > reported they had either not heard of it, or extrapolated its relationship
> > to Wikipedia.
> >
> > - In spite of lack of awareness about Wikimedia, respondents showed a high
> > level of support for our mission.
> >
> > Following from these research insights, the Wolff Olins team also made a
> > strategic suggestion to refine the Wikimedia brand system.[6] The
> > suggestions include:
> >
> > - Use Wikipedia as the central movement brand rather than Wikimedia.
> >
> > - Provide clearer connections to the Movement projects from Wikipedia to
> > drive increased awareness, usage and contributions to smaller projects.
> >
> > - Retain Wikimedia project names, with the exception of Wikimedia Commons
> > which is recommended to be shortened to Wikicommons to be consistent with
> > other projects.
> >
> > - Explore new naming conventions for the Foundation and affiliate groups
> > that use Wikipedia rather than Wikimedia.
> >
> > - Consider expository taglines and other naming conventions to reassert the
> > connections between projects (e.g. “__ - A Wikipedia project”).
> >
> > This is not a new idea.[7][8]
> >
> > By definition, Wikimedia brands are shared among the communities who give
> > them meaning. So in considering this change, the Wikimedia Foundation is
> > collecting feedback from across our communities. Our goal is to speak with
> > more than 80% of affiliates and as many individual contributors as possible
> > before May 2019, when we will offer the Board of Trustees a summary of
> > community response.
> >
> > We invite you to look at a project summary [9], the brand research [10],
> > and the brand strategy suggestion [11] Wolff Olins prepared working with
> > us.
> >
> > For feedback, please add comments on the Community Review talk page [12] or
> > email brandproj...@wikimedia.org with direct feedback. You can also use
> > either of these channels to request to join a group meeting.
> >
> > We know this is 

[Wikimedia-l] proposals

[James Salsman]

I would like to send some proposals, less than a kilobyte each, to
this email list, but just in case I would like to know whether anyone
seeing this would prefer that I not send them. Please let me know.
Thank you. Best regards, -Jim

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reviewing our brand system for our 2030 goals

[Elena Lappen]

Hi all,

Thanks to those of you who have participated in the branding project
community consultation so far. We’ve received a lot of helpful feedback via
email, on-wiki, and in small meetings with affiliate group members and
individual contributors.

I posted this invitation to the project talk page last week [1], but wanted
to send a reminder here that we will be hosting a video conference session
to give people a chance to see the presentation, ask questions and provide
feedback.

When? This Thursday, April 11th from 16:00-17:00 UTC.

Where? https://bluejeans.com/540134391/browser, or call in using your
closest local number [2] and enter meeting ID 540 134 391#.

If you’d like to see the presentation but cannot attend, that is no
problem—we will be posting a recording to Commons and putting the link on
the talk page afterwards.


Thanks,

Elena

[1]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Communications/Wikimedia_brands/2030_research_and_planning/community_review#Invitation_to_join_a_video_conference_presentation


[2] https://www.bluejeans.com/premium-numbers


--
Elena Lappen
Community Relations Specialist
Wikimedia Foundation




On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 7:14 PM Zack McCune  wrote:

> :: Apologies for cross-posting to multiple mailing lists. We want to ensure
> we spread the word about this opportunity to as many people as possible. ::
>
> Hi all,
>
> We are writing today to invite you to be a part of a community review on
> Wikimedia brand research and strategy.
>
> Recently, the Wikimedia Foundation set out to better understand how the
> world sees Wikimedia and Wikimedia projects as brands.[1] We wanted to get
> a sense of the general visibility of our different projects, and evaluate
> public support of our mission to spread free knowledge.
>
> We launched a global brand study to research these questions, as part of
> our planning toward our 2030 strategic goals.[2] The study was commissioned
> by the Board, carried out by the brand consultancy Wolff Olins, and
> directed by the Foundation’s Communications team.[3][4] It collected
> perspectives from the internet users of seven countries (India, China,
> Nigeria, Egypt, Germany, Mexico and the US) on Wikimedia projects and
> values.
>
> The study revealed some interesting trends:
>
> - Awareness of Wikipedia is above 80% in Western Europe and North America.
>
> - Awareness of Wikipedia averages above 40% in emerging markets,[5] and is
> fast growing.
>
> - There is awareness of other projects, but was significantly lower. For
> example, awareness of Wikisource was at 30%, Wiktionary at 25%, Wikidata at
> 20%, and Wikivoyage at 8%.
>
> - There was significant confusion around the name Wikimedia. Respondents
> reported they had either not heard of it, or extrapolated its relationship
> to Wikipedia.
>
> - In spite of lack of awareness about Wikimedia, respondents showed a high
> level of support for our mission.
>
> Following from these research insights, the Wolff Olins team also made a
> strategic suggestion to refine the Wikimedia brand system.[6] The
> suggestions include:
>
> - Use Wikipedia as the central movement brand rather than Wikimedia.
>
> - Provide clearer connections to the Movement projects from Wikipedia to
> drive increased awareness, usage and contributions to smaller projects.
>
> - Retain Wikimedia project names, with the exception of Wikimedia Commons
> which is recommended to be shortened to Wikicommons to be consistent with
> other projects.
>
> - Explore new naming conventions for the Foundation and affiliate groups
> that use Wikipedia rather than Wikimedia.
>
> - Consider expository taglines and other naming conventions to reassert the
> connections between projects (e.g. “__ - A Wikipedia project”).
>
> This is not a new idea.[7][8]
>
> By definition, Wikimedia brands are shared among the communities who give
> them meaning. So in considering this change, the Wikimedia Foundation is
> collecting feedback from across our communities. Our goal is to speak with
> more than 80% of affiliates and as many individual contributors as possible
> before May 2019, when we will offer the Board of Trustees a summary of
> community response.
>
> We invite you to look at a project summary [9], the brand research [10],
> and the brand strategy suggestion [11] Wolff Olins prepared working with
> us.
>
> For feedback, please add comments on the Community Review talk page [12] or
> email brandproj...@wikimedia.org with direct feedback. You can also use
> either of these channels to request to join a group meeting.
>
> We know this is big topic and we’re excited to hear from you!
>
>
> - Zack McCune and the Wikimedia Foundation Communications department
>
>
> [1]
>
> https://wikimediafoundation.org/2019/02/07/how-does-the-world-see-wikimedia-brands/
>
> [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20
>
> [3] https://www.wolffolins.com/
>
> [4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communications
>
> [5]
>
>