[Wikimedia-l] Co sprawia, że jesteś szczęśliwy w tym tygodniu? / What's making you happy this week? (Week of 30 June 2019)

[Pine W]

At the moment I am not particularly happy, but I am grateful. I feel that
the English Wikiquote of the day for 30 June 2019
 is
appropriate to share for contemplation in the context of current tensions

.

"What I'm saying here is not, I agree, poetry, as poems should be
written rarely and reluctantly, under unbearable duress and only with
the hope that good spirits, not evil ones, choose us for their
instrument."
 — Czesław Miłosz
, Polish writer,
diplomat, and recipient of a Nobel Prize in Literature

I am grateful for hundreds of colleagues who have participated generously,
courageously, and in good faith to advocate for what they believe are the
best interests of the Wikiverse projects. (I request that in this thread we
avoid advocating for particular outcomes so that we remain on topic.)

What's making you grateful or happy this week? You are welcome to comment
in any language.

Pine
( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia DC Statement on Terms of Use Enforcement

[Lucas Teles]

Thanks for the statement. I am pretty sure that everyone agrees with what
is stated. However, the statement doesn't address the main and real issue.
We have to identify the issue in order to take action against it. The said
controversy doesn't have to do with preventing harassment - which is
something we all agree that has to be done -, but it has to do with the way
it was done. At the eyes of many community users, unnecessary lack of
transparency was applied on this case with  no chance for defense and no
explanation on why it was no left to be solved by ArbCom.

If you are concerned - as I am -, I don't think we should discuss if
harassment is good or bad. It is obviously bad. We should discuss the
procedure and bring material for a real change.

Teles


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Em dom, 30 de jun de 2019 às 16:32, Robert Fernandez 
escreveu:

> https://wikimediadc.org/wiki/Press:Statement_on_Terms_of_Use_enforcement
>
> June 30, 2019
>
> Wikimedia District of Columbia is deeply concerned by recent events that
> have occurred on the English Wikipedia, including community controversy
> regarding a ban imposed by the Wikimedia Foundation.
>
> Protecting editors from harassment is crucial to the continued success of
> the Wikimedia movement. Many of us have been targets of harassment as a
> result of our contributions to the Wikimedia projects, and have witnessed
> harassment of our colleagues, and we are grateful to the Wikimedia
> Foundation's Trust & Safety team for their support in those incidents.
>
> We make no judgement on the case at the center of the current controversy
> as the Foundation—as per long-standing practice to protect the privacy of
> all concerned—did not identify the specifics of the behavior publicly. We
> are not endorsing or opposing a specific case, policy, or process. However,
> in light of these events, we publicly affirm our support for the following
> principles:
>
>
>- We support the Wikimedia Foundation's efforts in general to make the
>English Wikipedia welcoming and accessible to people of all backgrounds
> and
>gender identities.
>- We believe there are circumstances where the Wikimedia Foundation
>should take action against individual editors who violate the Terms of
> Use
>when it is necessary to protect people of all backgrounds and gender
>identities.
>- We support collaboration between the Foundation and the English
>Wikipedia community to inform the policies and processes surrounding
> these
>efforts.
>- We oppose the use of discriminatory, racist, and homophobic language
>in all Wikimedia discussions, and encourage the community to avoid it,
>regardless of context or intent.
>
>
> Board of Directors
> Wikimedia District of Columbia
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] On wiki versus off wiki - it may not be that simple

[Benjamin Ikuta]

It would do a great deal to clear the air of speculation if they would at least 
confirm they're not accusing Fram of off wiki harassment. 



On Jun 30, 2019, at 8:20 AM, Stephen Philbrick  
wrote:

> Please keep in mind the plausible scenario that one or more people
> contacted T & S, and asserted that editor X is extremely distressed about
> harassment arriving from on wiki edits. Fram can be literally telling the
> truth when they say that they are unaware of any off wiki commincations,
> while T Is in possession of information that cannot simply be summarized
> as on wiki or off wiki. It may well be off wiki real life observations but
> not related to any off wiki communications involving Fram.
> 
> Phil
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[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia DC Statement on Terms of Use Enforcement

[Robert Fernandez]

https://wikimediadc.org/wiki/Press:Statement_on_Terms_of_Use_enforcement

June 30, 2019

Wikimedia District of Columbia is deeply concerned by recent events that
have occurred on the English Wikipedia, including community controversy
regarding a ban imposed by the Wikimedia Foundation.

Protecting editors from harassment is crucial to the continued success of
the Wikimedia movement. Many of us have been targets of harassment as a
result of our contributions to the Wikimedia projects, and have witnessed
harassment of our colleagues, and we are grateful to the Wikimedia
Foundation's Trust & Safety team for their support in those incidents.

We make no judgement on the case at the center of the current controversy
as the Foundation—as per long-standing practice to protect the privacy of
all concerned—did not identify the specifics of the behavior publicly. We
are not endorsing or opposing a specific case, policy, or process. However,
in light of these events, we publicly affirm our support for the following
principles:


   - We support the Wikimedia Foundation's efforts in general to make the
   English Wikipedia welcoming and accessible to people of all backgrounds and
   gender identities.
   - We believe there are circumstances where the Wikimedia Foundation
   should take action against individual editors who violate the Terms of Use
   when it is necessary to protect people of all backgrounds and gender
   identities.
   - We support collaboration between the Foundation and the English
   Wikipedia community to inform the policies and processes surrounding these
   efforts.
   - We oppose the use of discriminatory, racist, and homophobic language
   in all Wikimedia discussions, and encourage the community to avoid it,
   regardless of context or intent.


Board of Directors
Wikimedia District of Columbia
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] On wiki versus off wiki - it may not be that simple

[Thyge]

Den søn. 30. jun. 2019 kl. 18.48 skrev Todd Allen :

> "Even if the answer is "Some of the conduct was off-wiki",
> that tells us nothing about what it was or how WMF came to be aware of it."
>

I'm not so sure that is correct.

Thyge Larsen (Sir48)
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] On wiki versus off wiki - it may not be that simple

[Todd Allen]

Well, I think we're all well aware that not everything pertaining to the
situation is on-wiki. There were clearly communications that were not, even
if just those that took place during WMF's review procedure, the ones
they've had with ArbCom, etc.

The question that was asked, specifically, was "Were the actions for which
this ban was imposed entirely on-wiki ones, or did any alleged harassment
which factored into the decision take place via other channels?" That
particular question could be given a clear up-or-down answer without any
privacy issues. Even if the answer is "Some of the conduct was off-wiki",
that tells us nothing about what it was or how WMF came to be aware of it.

Todd

On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 9:20 AM Stephen Philbrick <
stephen.w.philbr...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Please keep in mind the plausible scenario that one or more people
> contacted T & S, and asserted that editor X is extremely distressed about
> harassment arriving from on wiki edits. Fram can be literally telling the
> truth when they say that they are unaware of any off wiki commincations,
> while T Is in possession of information that cannot simply be summarized
> as on wiki or off wiki. It may well be off wiki real life observations but
> not related to any off wiki communications involving Fram.
>
> Phil
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[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] The Signpost – Volume 15, Issue 6 – 30 June 2019

[Wikipedia Signpost]

Discussion report: A constitutional crisis hits English Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2019-06-30/Discussion_report

News and notes: Mysterious ban, admin resignations, Wikimedia Thailand
rising
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2019-06-30/News_and_notes

In the media: The disinformation age
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2019-06-30/In_the_media

On the bright side: What's making you happy this month?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2019-06-30/On_the_bright_side

Special report: Did Fram harass other editors?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2019-06-30/Special_report

Traffic report: Juneteenth, Beauty Revealed, and more nuclear disasters
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2019-06-30/Traffic_report

Technology report: Actors and Bots
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2019-06-30/Technology_report

Gallery: Unlike the North Face, Wiki Loves Earth
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2019-06-30/Gallery

Recent research: What do editors do after being blocked?; the top
mathematicians, universities and cancers according to Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2019-06-30/Recent_research

>From the archives: Women and Wikipedia: the world is watching
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2019-06-30/From_the_archives

Opinion: Why the Terms of Use change didn't curtail undisclosed paid
editing—and what might
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2019-06-30/Opinion

In focus: WikiJournals: A sister project proposal
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2019-06-30/In_focus

Community view: A CEO biography, paid for with taxes
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2019-06-30/Community_view

Op-Ed: 2019 Wikimedia Affiliate Selected Board Seats Election Results
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[Wikimedia-l] On wiki versus off wiki - it may not be that simple

[Stephen Philbrick]

Please keep in mind the plausible scenario that one or more people
contacted T & S, and asserted that editor X is extremely distressed about
harassment arriving from on wiki edits. Fram can be literally telling the
truth when they say that they are unaware of any off wiki commincations,
while T Is in possession of information that cannot simply be summarized
as on wiki or off wiki. It may well be off wiki real life observations but
not related to any off wiki communications involving Fram.

Phil
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fram en.wp office yearlock block

[Gerard Meijssen]

Hoi,
Bans that cannot be appealed against are nothing new. A friend of mine has
a lifetime ban and there are mitigating circumstances (imho). Having said
that; for me a person who shuns Wikipedia as an editor for its negativity,
this has been a long time coming and is very welcome. When people leave
Wikipedia and we end up with a more civil environment it is well worth it.

Yes I read the statement and it does say ineffect  "we struggled and were
not able to cope".
Thanks,
  GerardM

On Sun, 30 Jun 2019 at 12:17, Ariel Glenn WMF  wrote:

> I would urge anyone who is following this thread to read and contemplate
> the Arbcom open letter to the WMF, posted early on June 30th. Link:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Community_response_to_the_Wikimedia_Foundation%27s_ban_of_Fram#Open_letter_from_the_Arbitration_Committee_to_the_WMF_Board
>
> This statement was sorely needed, as a means to create the space for the
> sort of frank and difficult discussions that must take place in order for
> the underlying issues to be resolved.
>
> Note that I am sending this email solely in my capacity as a sporadic
> volunteer on the projects, both by name and anonymously.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fram en.wp office yearlock block

[Ariel Glenn WMF]

I would urge anyone who is following this thread to read and contemplate
the Arbcom open letter to the WMF, posted early on June 30th. Link:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Community_response_to_the_Wikimedia_Foundation%27s_ban_of_Fram#Open_letter_from_the_Arbitration_Committee_to_the_WMF_Board

This statement was sorely needed, as a means to create the space for the
sort of frank and difficult discussions that must take place in order for
the underlying issues to be resolved.

Note that I am sending this email solely in my capacity as a sporadic
volunteer on the projects, both by name and anonymously.
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