Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fram en.wp office yearlock block

[Pine W]

 The pace of discussions about this incident appear to be slowing, both
here and on ENWP. Discussions on ENWP seems to be turning towards longer
term topics.

I think that some of these discussions could instead have happened in
better circumstances. I do not envision any likely outcome where the
benefits that are associated with this incident will outweigh the harms.

Below I share some comments that I selected from the lists of resignations
,
retirements
,
and strikes
.
Some of the people who made these comments may return to activity or
reclaim their permissions, but my guess is that some of them will not.

A minority of the statements protested the community's actions.

* "I cannot support a community that undermines T"
* "...the enwiki community is like the world's largest dysfunctional
family, and I no longer wish to hold a position of responsibility here"
* "... no interest in helping a project that willfully allows and condones
harassment, intimidation and stalking."

The majority protested WMF's actions.

* "the whole WMF ban mess was the straw that broke the camel's back"
* "in protest of the Wikimedia Foundation's inconsistent, opaque, oblivious
and inadequate handling of user conduct issues"
* "dispirited by the recent action of T, and even more so by their
refusal to explain their action in any meaningful way, to provide any
mechanism for an appeal, or to negotiate on a compromise"
* "I am not willing to serve Jan and the T team … under undisclosed new
rules and under threat of unappealable sanctions should I (or those I
interact with) violate those undisclosed rules, rather than serving the
Wikipedia Community under its imperfect but transparent and accountable
rules."
* "We are not subjects of the WMF ... you have to give us the same respect
you demand for yourselves."
* "YeahI handed in my bit too; somehow I can feel a change in the
windcommunity seems to matter less and less."
* "There's not much to say that hasn't already been said better by others,
so I'll spare everyone my own manifesto except to say there are a lot of
good people who edit here, and I will miss working with you all very much"
* "I have thought long and hard about this, but do not feel able to
continue to contribute in the current environment. I had hoped it would be
resolved satisfactorily by now, but this is looking increasingly unlikely.
Please accept my resignation and remove the admin tools. Thank you and best
wishes"
* "I am resigning my adminship to protest the contempt the WMF organization
and CEO have for WP's volunteers"
* "I would like to express my disappointment at the way the WMF has handled
this matter so far"
* "I'm out unless and until the foundation repairs it's relationship with
this community."
* "...an utterly empty shell statement. ... When (if?) this resolves I will
consider to ask it back, but currently it is of no use for me. WMF can do
it by themselves in the meantime."
* "I found the Board's response to the Fram affair disappointing to put it
mildly..."
* "enough. Email me when the WMF takes steps to actually fix this place
instead of destroy it."
* "retiring until WMF provide suitable explanation for their behaviour"
* "One of the great things about volunteering is that when an organisation
supposedly devoted to supporting you shows itself incapable of providing a
level of support that you consider adequate, there are no adverse
consequence from simply withdrawing your labour, which is what I am now
doing"
* "I have decided to not edit in content for a period commensurate with
Fram's ban, . .not out of solidarity with F. Out of outrage for the WMF's
kangaroo court encroachment."
* "I am 100% OUT on doing another site maintenance task of any type until
this is resolved properly. This includes for me particularly New Page
Patrolling, Articles for Deletion, RFA commentary, vandal revision (of
which I do very, very little anyway), and notice board participation. I am
not your unpaid intern, WMF."
* "I learned about this late, but I don't work for bullies. I'll not be
editing mainspace until this is satisfactorily resolved."

Personally, I think that the community's ideals are amazing, and the fact
that English Wikipedia works as well as it does reminds me of an eternal
flame . But that flame
operates with a complex web of trust, and if its highly privileged
caretakers attack it or handle it carelessly, then I think that its future
is in doubt.

Hopefully this will give the WMF Board something to contemplate.

Pine
( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open Letter to Affiliations Committee : Wikimedia India's Demand For A Fair And Transparent Hearing

[rupert THURNER]

abhinav,

i read that the membership fee is 100 INR, which is the price of a beer.
that sounds fair. how many members do you currently have? do you use the
annual fundraising page to let people know that they can become members
like e.g. wikimedia deutschland (WMDE) does? WMDE, by using this simple
strategy, were able to get 70'000 members with a population of 80 mio,
which makes them one of the biggest clubs in germany.

rupert


On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 2:14 AM Samuel Klein  wrote:

> +1 Lodewijk -- I was thinking the same thing.
> Abhinav and Kirill: thanks each for sharing these public updates.
>
> On Mon., Jul. 15, 2019, 4:29 p.m. effe iets anders, <
> effeietsand...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > I think it would be at the very least helpful to the wider community to
> > better understand that component. Could you spell out in a bit more
> detail
> > what those capacity concerns were, and what other findings may have
> > existed? This may especially be helpful to the India community, as it
> would
> > be especially hard to address the issues without a full understanding.
> >
> > Thank you!
> >
> > Warmly,
> > Lodewijk
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 15, 2019 at 3:03 AM Kirill Lokshin  >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Dear Wikimedia-l readers,
> > >
> > >
> > > AffCom understands the complexity and sensitivity of the circumstances
> > > surrounding the decision to de-recognize Wikimedia India as a chapter,
> > and
> > > we would like to share more information around it. This decision was
> not
> > > taken lightly, and only came after consistent warnings, including
> > > suspensions of the chapter, and continued attempts by AffCom to bring
> the
> > > chapter’s activities in line with the requirements for chapter status.
> We
> > > understand that volunteers would like more information about this
> > decision
> > > and past actions that influenced its outcome. We will attempt to
> provide
> > an
> > > overview of the factors and history that led to this decision.
> > >
> > > Wikimedia India has been given ample time to address their lack of
> > > compliance with minimum chapter expectations since their initial signs
> of
> > > non-compliance in 2015 and concerns presented to them during their 2015
> > > site visits, initial 2016 suspension, and most recent 2018 suspension
> > last
> > > November. The Wikimedia India Executive Committee (EC) has repeatedly
> > > failed to respond in a timely and complete manner to call requests,
> > annual
> > > reporting timelines, and remediation deadlines for demonstrating
> > > compliance.
> > >
> > > It is worth noting that there may be issues related to incomplete
> > > information regarding the current relationship between WMIN and AffCom.
> > > Abhinav is a current WMIN representative, but he was recently appointed
> > to
> > > the EC on June 14, 2019 [1] following the EC’s receipt of the final
> > > revocation notice sent on June 13, 2019. He was not informed of, nor
> did
> > he
> > > participate in, our communications regarding the current suspension
> > process
> > > before that time, so he has had to rely on second-hand knowledge of the
> > > situation. The remaining four members of the EC appear to have fully
> > > abdicated their responsibility for communications leadership and as
> such
> > > further confirm the chapter’s lack of capacity at this time.
> > >
> > > Suspension notices give explicit requirements for what and how to
> > > communicate with respect to a chapter’s capacity and provide a timeline
> > for
> > > addressing gaps to meet requirements. We’re providing a table
> reflecting
> > > the most recent suspension notice, the requirements included, and the
> > date
> > > they were to be delivered below for the community’s context:
> > >
> > > According to the suspension notice, Wikimedia India was to:
> > >
> > > Status
> > >
> > > Submit an Action Plan. By January 15, 2019, the chapter was to submit
> an
> > > updated Action Plan including a timeline with dates for completing the
> > > tasks outlined.
> > >
> > > Submitted past deadline.
> > >
> > > Received on March 4, 2019.
> > >
> > > Insufficient response; awaiting new action plan for potential
> > > reorganization as outlined in April call.
> > >
> > > Complete and submit the required overdue chapter activities and
> financial
> > > reporting. The chapter was to submit the reporting by December 1, 2018.
> > >
> > > Submitted past deadline.
> > >
> > > Received Activities Report on December 3, 2018 and Financial Report on
> > > December 22, 2018.
> > >
> > > Develop a strategy and timeline for addressing the following potential
> > gaps
> > > in meeting the basic criteria for chapter status in terms of Legal
> > > Structure, Open Governance, Active Contributor Involvement, and
> Capacity.
> > > By
> > > January 15, 2019, the chapter was to submit a plan, via email or posted
> > > online, demonstrating how the chapter meets the specific chapter
> > > requirements outlined. If the chapter does not currently meet 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Fwd: Wikimedia Community User Group Uganda 2018/2019 Report

[Asaf Bartov]

Congratulations, Erina and WCUG Uganda, on a clear and informative report!

One area to consider improving would be on-wiki contributions by the core
user group volunteers.

Cheers,

A.

On Mon, Jul 15, 2019 at 9:14 PM Erina Mukuta  wrote:

>
> *To whom it may concern*
> below is the link to the over due annual report for the mentioned usergroup
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/2018-2019_Annual_Report
>
> Kind regards
> --
>
> *Erina Mukuta*Wikimedia Community User Group Uganda
> Tel:  *+256774424843*
> skype: mukuta.erina   twitter:
> @erinamukuta
> *https://wikiuganda.wordpress.com/ *
>
> *https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Erinamukuta
> *
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