Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Draft recommendations are here!

2019-08-14 Thread Aron Manning
Peter, this is a very thoughtful suggestion. I'm not sure the WG members will see it here, maybe you could post on the talk page? I haven't seen it there. Aron On Tue, 13 Aug 2019 at 12:00, Peter Southwood wrote: > One way to make it very clear is to have a separate project for non-free > and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Draft recommendations are here!

2019-08-14 Thread Leila Zia
Hi Paulo, On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 6:38 PM Paulo Santos Perneta wrote: > > If they don't have legal resources, then it is pointless to use NC ND for > the content, as they will not be suing anyone that ignores the license and > commercializes it anyway. In practice, this can happen. Two points

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Welcoming Ryan Merkley to the Wikimedia Foundation

2019-08-14 Thread Bobby Shabangu
Congratulations and Welcome on board to Ryan! Regards, Bobby Shabangu On Thu, 15 Aug 2019 at 01:28, Eileen Hershenov wrote: > Wait - how many people did Doug Stamper murder? > > On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 5:54 PM effe iets anders > > wrote: > > > Congrats Ryan! > > > > The main question here at

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Draft recommendations are here!

2019-08-14 Thread Paulo Santos Perneta
If they don't have legal resources, then it is pointless to use NC ND for the content, as they will not be suing anyone that ignores the license and commercializes it anyway. If such knowledge can't be freely shared, then it has no place in Commons, in my opinion. If that makes it less visible,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Draft recommendations are here!

2019-08-14 Thread Gergo Tisza
Also, keep in mind that feedback on what recommendations you wanted / expected to see but did not find is just as much worth as criticism (or praise) of the existing ones. On Wed, Aug 14, 2019, 21:31 Chris Keating wrote: > > > > > > I have some bigger concerns with a few of the other strategy

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Welcoming Ryan Merkley to the Wikimedia Foundation

2019-08-14 Thread Eileen Hershenov
Wait - how many people did Doug Stamper murder? On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 5:54 PM effe iets anders wrote: > Congrats Ryan! > > The main question here at Wikimania is really... Will you be more like Leo > McGarry or like Doug Stamper as far as it comes to problem solving? :) > > Lodewijk > > > On

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Draft recommendations are here!

2019-08-14 Thread Lucas Werkmeister
I doubt that the communities in question are likely to have the same legal resources available to them as The Coca-Cola Company, so I must admit I don’t find this argument entirely convincing. Asking them to share their content, but then leaving them alone in the face of any problems arising from

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Welcoming Ryan Merkley to the Wikimedia Foundation

2019-08-14 Thread effe iets anders
Congrats Ryan! The main question here at Wikimania is really... Will you be more like Leo McGarry or like Doug Stamper as far as it comes to problem solving? :) Lodewijk On Wed, Aug 14, 2019, 07:33 Rajeeb Dutta wrote: > Congrats Ryan & all my best wishes, thanks Katherine for the update. > >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Draft recommendations are here!

2019-08-14 Thread Paulo Santos Perneta
All this stuff about misappropriation and unwanted commercial use of certain content which is being used to justify the inclusion of NC/ND CC licenses in Commons and other Wikimedia projects, really isn't Wikimedia concern. If some communities object to certain types of use on content produced by

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Draft recommendations are here!

2019-08-14 Thread geni
On Mon, 12 Aug 2019 at 21:34, Aron Manning wrote: . > The draft already refers to 2 articles (1 > ,2 > ) > that explain the need for ND. I'll

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Draft recommendations are here!

2019-08-14 Thread Chris Keating
> > > I have some bigger concerns with a few of the other strategy proposals and > I am thinking about how to engage with the people who made those proposals. > I don't want people to feel that their ideas are being casually dismissed, > nor do I want to have hostility between the WGs and the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Draft recommendations are here!

2019-08-14 Thread Andy Mabbett
On Tue, 13 Aug 2019 at 22:09, Pine W wrote: > I don't want people to feel that their ideas are being casually dismissed I don't want people to feel their genuine concerns are being casually dismissed; not least with glib lines like "All change has negative connotations to some members of the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Draft recommendations are here!

2019-08-14 Thread Paulo Santos Perneta
" I don't want people to feel that their ideas are being casually dismissed" - Don't worry, it is not "their ideas. As Nicole Ebber explained, those recommendations resulted from a lot of different inputs, and none of them is supposed to be the brainchild of anyone inside the WGs. If they are

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Draft recommendations are here!

2019-08-14 Thread Paulo Santos Perneta
" To distribute many of the function now at WMF in SF to different locations in the world (whereof 50% in Global south)" - Distributing work now being paid with US wages to US staff at SF to people at the Global South paying "Global South wages" sounds a lot like moving the factories from San

[Wikimedia-l] The timeline of the Wikimedia strategy: please reconsider!

2019-08-14 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Hello, Recently, the "draft recommendations" of the strategy working groups have been published. As Nicole informed us, they are "key tools" for the future of the movement. These documents are the result of one year of work of the working groups. If I am not mistaken, the Wikimedia volunteers

[Wikimedia-l] Wiki Indaba 2019 Scholarship Confirmation

2019-08-14 Thread kayode yussuf via Wikimedia-l
Dear Community Members, Apologies for cross-posting. Sequel to my last mail about the announcement of the scholarship list for Wiki Indaba 2019, I write to inform you that some scholarship recipients are yet to confirm their availability to attend Wiki Indaba 2019. The Scholarship Review

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Medicine: Changes in Board Compositions

2019-08-14 Thread Jack Gleeson
Congratulations Doug On Wed, 14 Aug 2019 at 07:02, Lane Rasberry wrote: > Lots of good news with medicine and wiki lately! > >- Wikimedia Medicine is established at the chapter rank! >- stable leadership and membership in the organization for years! >- lots of medicine + wiki +

[Wikimedia-l] Conclusion of Wiki Loves Earth 2019 in Sri Lanka

2019-08-14 Thread Rehman Abubakr
Hello everyone, I'd like to cross-post our final WLE reports here, for the benefit of anyone interested, or anyone planning to conduct a similar contest. This was the first ever contest we conducted in Sri Lanka, and there was many learning points. It took 2 organisers, and 6 jury members, to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Medicine: Changes in Board Compositions

2019-08-14 Thread Lane Rasberry
Lots of good news with medicine and wiki lately! - Wikimedia Medicine is established at the chapter rank! - stable leadership and membership in the organization for years! - lots of medicine + wiki + university partnerships! - ongoing medical content programs! - people are