Re: [Wikimedia-l] [LGBT] Best practices for awarding scholarships

[Gerard Meijssen]

Hoi,
For any and all other conventions those giving a presentation are notable
per the completeness of informing and linking to the presentations. Quite
often people have presented before and only when these presentations are
linked through their presenter it is possible to make the connection.
Thanks,
 GerardM

On Tue, 8 Oct 2019 at 00:05, Jan Ainali  wrote:

> Besides any other aspects, most scholarship recipients are probably not
> notable. When I suggested to create items for all of the Wikimania sessions
> I perceived it as concensus (in the Wikidata telegram group) that they were
> not notable. So unless they already are notable (and already should have an
> item) getting the scholarship will not make them notable.
>
> /Jan Ainali
> (skickat på språng så ursäkta min fåordighet)
>
> On Mon, Oct 7, 2019, 22:39 Lane Rasberry  wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > I have wished that eventually when people apply for scholarships or even
> > when they attend wiki events they create profiles for themselves in
> > Wikidata so that we could generate visualizations of the demographics of
> > participants.
> >
> > I do not think the wiki movement is quite ready for this, but if we
> > actually want to track and report demographics, doing so in Wikidata is
> > probably the way most natural for the wiki community.
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 9:27 AM Fæ  wrote:
> >
> > > Plans for a Wikimedia LGBT+ conference and workshops in 2020 are
> > > moving forward. We would very much like to learn and borrow successful
> > > experiences from other conferences. This conference is expected to be
> > > relatively modest in size, around 50 attendees, and is to be hosted in
> > > Linz, Austria.
> > >
> > > We are planning on opening up applications for scholarships very soon,
> > > to allow several months for early booking of travel tickets and visa
> > > applications where needed. Naturally this means we have to create a
> > > process for assessing applications to a hopefully short and
> > > non-subjective checklist (we are all volunteers after all!).
> > >
> > > Can anyone recommend documented good practices for assessing
> > > applications for travel grants and expenses for similar sized events?
> > > Some issues we have discussed that need to be addressed before
> > > finalizing our policies are:
> > > * Creating a fair assessment process that balances the diversity of
> > > attendees against other metrics like on-project experience, for
> > > example ensuring that we have a healthy gender balance and a wide
> > > geographic representation
> > > * Whether it may be better to prefer the simplicity of assessing for
> > > full scholarships, or whether partial payments are a good way of
> > > ensuring wider access
> > > * How to draw up rules for travel and partial scholarships for folks
> > > planning on making this part of a holiday, as often happens for those
> > > travelling long distances
> > > * When to recommend that specific Wikimedia Affiliates should provide
> > > grants and expenses, which may have additional requirements for
> > > applications and reporting
> > > * How to build in incentives for greener travel options, even where
> > > this may not be the cheapest option
> > >
> > > You can read the conference proposal at
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Conference/Kawayashu/Queering_Wikipedia
> > > and everyone is welcome to provide suggestions and feedback on the
> > > discussion page there, if on-wiki editing works better for you than
> > > email. :-)
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Fae
> > > --
> > > Wikimedia LGBT+ https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_LGBT
> > > fae...@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae
> > >
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> > >
> > > Please treat emails sent to this list as confidential.
> > > Ask senders for permission before forwarding emails off-list.
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Community Tech: New Format for 2020 Wishlist Survey

[Gerard Meijssen]

Hoi,
You are entitled to an opinion and you may voice it and so am I. The
Wikimedia Foundation is not a democracy and neither is our movement. This
was done with deliberation. At best our movement is represented in the
board and through its chapters. In essence the main function of the WMF is
to ensure that the servers serve. That they serve optimally. As a
consequence they maintain the code base of MediaWiki and associated
software. As a result there have been several improvements in the
responsiveness of the software. There have been improvements in the amount
of energy our servers use. And frankly, that is their business and it is
none of the business of the community. It is their business because it
translates in the amount the servers take to serve, in the amount it takes
to transport the data and in the amount of energy to display it on a
screen. This reduces costs and it is a good investment as improvements will
serve us well as we move forward. It is also a fiduciary duty of the
Foundation to use the monies it gets well

Given that our movement is not a democracy, I find it operates very much in
a democratic way. At that it functions remarkably well representing the
needs of our communities particularly when you compare it with some nation
states. The Foundation serves its purpose well and even though I am well
known to be critical, if you care to, you will find that I am supportive of
what the Foundation does in the big picture. It is impossible to make
everybody happy and, it does imho a good job within the parameters of what
is possible to them. That includes people in a community who feel abandoned
when they are told to share "their" toys.
Thanks,
   GerardM







On Tue, 8 Oct 2019 at 00:36, Yuri Astrakhan  wrote:

> Gerard, you assume that "my wikipedia" is the only project I participate
> in?  Let me assure you this is not the case.  On the contrary, the last few
> years I mostly contributed to Wikidata and recently - a massive Wiktionary
> lexeme import, and very little to Wikipedia.
>
> That said, I think removing the last actionable and visible community check
> on WMF is a mistake for the reasons I outlined before.  We the community
> (people who contribute to the open knowledge, who actually created the
> knowledge that now generates all those donations) should have at least some
> measurable input into how WMF spends those resources and priorities its
> projects. WMF can say "we believe that free knowledge means we must spend
> 99% of the donations towards global warming, because one cannot have free
> knowledge without the planet on which to live" (a bit of a straw man
> argument, but it illustrates my point) -- and there is no community input
> short of a Global protect or a Spanish-wiki-style revolt where the whole
> community decides to move to a different platform for the feedback to get
> across.
>
> My point is -- in a democracy, if a large crowd is on the streets, the
> government has already messed up. And the way to avoid it is to have a well
> functioning feedback mechanism that can early-on tell WMF what the
> "constituents" would like it to do.  We currently do NOT have any way for
> donators to say what they want the money to be spend on. We currently do
> NOT have any way for community to do the same.  Thus, its a self-driving
> ship -- the inmates are running the asylum.
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 6, 2019 at 12:50 AM Gerard Meijssen  >
> wrote:
>
> > The disappointing you show and the grotesque conclusions are imho based
> in
> > a sense of entitlement. You had it your way for so long and they are now
> > robbing you from your cookies... It is easy to "forget" that a program
> > where a majority decides what is on a "community wish list" favours the
> > biggest projects. It is easy to forget that the WMF has many projects and
> > your Wikipedia is only one out of over 250 and, there are the "other"
> > projects as well.
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[Wikimedia-l] Statement of Wikimedia Community User Group Hong Kong regarding possible internet censorship in Hong Kong

[William Chan]

Dear all,

Wikimedia Community User Group Hong Kong has released the following
statement in response to the effect to the local community from the use of
Emergency Regulations Ordinance within the city:

***

Free speech, expression and access to uncensored web services are some of
the fundamental requirements for anyone living in Hong Kong to access
Wikipedia and its sister projects, which is also a protected right under
the Basic Law of Hong Kong.

Wikimedia Community User Group Hong Kong is in dire concern regarding
recent moves by the government. The usage of such ordinance can bring
negative effects to the local community and members of the public who want
to access Wikipedia:

   1. Usage of the ordinance can restrict the organization of offline
   meetups in Hong Kong
   2. Usage of the ordinance can also restrict access to Wikipedia and its
   sister projects

Such worries are not fabricated, as a member of the Executive Council of
Hong Kong expressed such possibility of removing internet access within
Hong Kong through enacting relevant provisions.

We hope all members of the public, especially the police, the government
itself, protesters, etc. to remain calm and not to initiate violence.

We also continue our stance to conference participants and organizers not
to use Hong Kong as a transit point for going to/from events.
***
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Wikimedia Community User Group Hong Kong
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Community Tech: New Format for 2020 Wishlist Survey

[Yuri Astrakhan]

Gerard, you assume that "my wikipedia" is the only project I participate
in?  Let me assure you this is not the case.  On the contrary, the last few
years I mostly contributed to Wikidata and recently - a massive Wiktionary
lexeme import, and very little to Wikipedia.

That said, I think removing the last actionable and visible community check
on WMF is a mistake for the reasons I outlined before.  We the community
(people who contribute to the open knowledge, who actually created the
knowledge that now generates all those donations) should have at least some
measurable input into how WMF spends those resources and priorities its
projects. WMF can say "we believe that free knowledge means we must spend
99% of the donations towards global warming, because one cannot have free
knowledge without the planet on which to live" (a bit of a straw man
argument, but it illustrates my point) -- and there is no community input
short of a Global protect or a Spanish-wiki-style revolt where the whole
community decides to move to a different platform for the feedback to get
across.

My point is -- in a democracy, if a large crowd is on the streets, the
government has already messed up. And the way to avoid it is to have a well
functioning feedback mechanism that can early-on tell WMF what the
"constituents" would like it to do.  We currently do NOT have any way for
donators to say what they want the money to be spend on. We currently do
NOT have any way for community to do the same.  Thus, its a self-driving
ship -- the inmates are running the asylum.


On Sun, Oct 6, 2019 at 12:50 AM Gerard Meijssen 
wrote:

> The disappointing you show and the grotesque conclusions are imho based in
> a sense of entitlement. You had it your way for so long and they are now
> robbing you from your cookies... It is easy to "forget" that a program
> where a majority decides what is on a "community wish list" favours the
> biggest projects. It is easy to forget that the WMF has many projects and
> your Wikipedia is only one out of over 250 and, there are the "other"
> projects as well.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Affiliates] Recognition of the Wikimedians of Saint Petersburg User Group

[Paulo Santos Perneta]

Hi Ziko,

When WMPT was forced by AffCom early this year to change the old chapter
agreement we had signed in 2009 for a new one, which we were told was the
current model for everyone, the main difference between the two was
precisely the end of the chapter hegemony over the national territory. We
were told, back then, that those were the new rules. You can read it here:
https://pt.wikimedia.org/wiki/Chapter_agreement

Personally, I don't mind that in the least. If some caution is taken by
AffCom, e.g., to not approve rogue affiliates which at it's very inception
are already at war with the national chapter (or "post/pre"-chapter
affiliate, as AffCom has done in Brazil back in 2015, causing all the mess
everybody knows), all is cool. Spain has already something like 5 or 6
affiliates, and they seem to live happily in peace. If it works, let it go.

Best,
Paulo

Ziko van Dijk  escreveu no dia segunda, 7/10/2019 à(s)
12:50:

> Sorry, people, but I would like to read an official statement of the WMF
> (committee) what is the reason or rationale behind this policy to accept WM
> user groups in countries where you already have a chapter. Does anybody
> have a link?
> Kind regards
> Ziko
>
> Am Sa., 5. Okt. 2019 um 19:16 Uhr schrieb Paulo Santos Perneta <
> paulospern...@gmail.com>:
>
> > Hi Farhad,
> >
> > Very interesting, thank you very much for sharing your insight.
> > The advantages at an organizational level are quite obvious, indeed, and
> > it's a smart way to deal with those membership limitations.
> > I'm glad that the WMF & Wikimedia is abandoning the very rigid chapter
> > model as the preferred one, and is evolving into more flexible and
> nuanced
> > options and varieties, such as those confederations.
> >
> > Best,
> > Paulo
> >
> >
> > Фархад Фаткуллин / Farhad Fatkullin  escreveu no dia
> > sábado, 5/10/2019 à(s) 15:38:
> >
> > > Hi folks,
> > >
> > > I can probably comment this, as a member of both Wikimedia Russia and a
> > > Tatar language-specific UG.
> > > On top of participation in Wikimedia Language Diversity initiative on
> > > meta, I am also contemplating and working towards starting a
> > > territory-specific UG for my region + an incubator UG for more
> > > language-specific UG in the languages of Russia.
> > >
> > >
> > > Wikimedians of Russia seem to see the matreshkas of (1) "global
> > conference
> > > - regional conference - topic-specific conferences"  & (2) WMF &
> > affiliates
> > > general meeting - national chapters - UGs" as natural structures, each
> > > addressing different tasks, having different priorities, whilst
> > cooperating
> > > in various projects.
> > >
> > > * Wikimedia Russia legal requirements (in-person quorum for
> > > decision-making, etc.) doesn't allow us to accept into membership all
> > > members of all our regional, language or topic specific UGs. So our
> > chapter
> > > is evolving towards a mixed confederation status, selectively welcoming
> > > some members from various groupings around Russia (which themselves
> can't
> > > be neither cells nor branches of WMRU).
> > >
> > > * SPB is not purely a city, but a one of 85 provinces (read states) of
> > the
> > > Russian Federation (like my home Republic of Tatarstan, neighbouring
> > > Republic of Bashkortostan with its Bashkir Wiki-grandmas, or a city of
> > > Moscow).
> > >
> > > * Once we will spin out UG MSK, we will complete transforming Wikimedia
> > > Russia into a collective entity for join tasks, working on
> national-level
> > > advocacy & other projects.
> > >
> > > * We currently have 5 existing UGs, have two more filed & at least one
> > > more at the preparation stage - as this is a good way to engage locally
> > or
> > > topically interested public into Wikimedia universe.
> > >
> > >
> > > regards,
> > > farhad
> > >
> > > --
> > > Farhad Fatkullin - Фархад Фаткуллин Тел.+79274158066 / skype:frhdkazan
> /
> > > Wikipedia:frhdkazan / Wikidata:Q34036417
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [LGBT] Best practices for awarding scholarships

[Jan Ainali]

Besides any other aspects, most scholarship recipients are probably not
notable. When I suggested to create items for all of the Wikimania sessions
I perceived it as concensus (in the Wikidata telegram group) that they were
not notable. So unless they already are notable (and already should have an
item) getting the scholarship will not make them notable.

/Jan Ainali
(skickat på språng så ursäkta min fåordighet)

On Mon, Oct 7, 2019, 22:39 Lane Rasberry  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I have wished that eventually when people apply for scholarships or even
> when they attend wiki events they create profiles for themselves in
> Wikidata so that we could generate visualizations of the demographics of
> participants.
>
> I do not think the wiki movement is quite ready for this, but if we
> actually want to track and report demographics, doing so in Wikidata is
> probably the way most natural for the wiki community.
>
> On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 9:27 AM Fæ  wrote:
>
> > Plans for a Wikimedia LGBT+ conference and workshops in 2020 are
> > moving forward. We would very much like to learn and borrow successful
> > experiences from other conferences. This conference is expected to be
> > relatively modest in size, around 50 attendees, and is to be hosted in
> > Linz, Austria.
> >
> > We are planning on opening up applications for scholarships very soon,
> > to allow several months for early booking of travel tickets and visa
> > applications where needed. Naturally this means we have to create a
> > process for assessing applications to a hopefully short and
> > non-subjective checklist (we are all volunteers after all!).
> >
> > Can anyone recommend documented good practices for assessing
> > applications for travel grants and expenses for similar sized events?
> > Some issues we have discussed that need to be addressed before
> > finalizing our policies are:
> > * Creating a fair assessment process that balances the diversity of
> > attendees against other metrics like on-project experience, for
> > example ensuring that we have a healthy gender balance and a wide
> > geographic representation
> > * Whether it may be better to prefer the simplicity of assessing for
> > full scholarships, or whether partial payments are a good way of
> > ensuring wider access
> > * How to draw up rules for travel and partial scholarships for folks
> > planning on making this part of a holiday, as often happens for those
> > travelling long distances
> > * When to recommend that specific Wikimedia Affiliates should provide
> > grants and expenses, which may have additional requirements for
> > applications and reporting
> > * How to build in incentives for greener travel options, even where
> > this may not be the cheapest option
> >
> > You can read the conference proposal at
> >
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Conference/Kawayashu/Queering_Wikipedia
> > and everyone is welcome to provide suggestions and feedback on the
> > discussion page there, if on-wiki editing works better for you than
> > email. :-)
> >
> > Thanks
> > Fae
> > --
> > Wikimedia LGBT+ https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_LGBT
> > fae...@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae
> >
> > ___
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> >
> > Please treat emails sent to this list as confidential.
> > Ask senders for permission before forwarding emails off-list.
>
>
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [LGBT] Best practices for awarding scholarships

[Risker]

I'm pretty shocked at this idea; in fact, if someone created a Wikidata
profile about me, I'd have it taken down under applicable legislation.
Making financial support contingent on adding one's name to a publicly
editable database does not seem to be particularly wise, nor for that
matter particularly equitable; dozens if not hundreds of Wikimedians who
have received sponsorships/scholarships to date live in places where
publicly linking oneself to Wikipedia or its sister projects could be
actively harmful to them.  There are very, very few reasons for requiring a
Wikimedian to publicly provide information about themselves in this way.

Getting back to the original question:  a lot of what would constitute best
practices depends on the purpose of the scholarship. Is it a local or
regional event? Is there a particular focus on the event (e.g., development
of technical skills such as a hackathon, leadership education, new editor
recruitment, a particular wikiproject such as Wikisource or Wikiquote,
etc.)?  Are there particular underrepresented groups that you want to
encourage?  All of these are worth considering, so that scholarships can be
targeted in a way that is most likely to achieve the goals of the event.

Also...consider whether you want to extend scholarships to people with a
"proven track record" primarily, or to those who are new or even not yet
part of the community.  If you're going for the "proven track record"
objective, consider what you'd count in favour of evidence of engagement:
local/regional/chapter/user group activities, on-wiki activities, holding
roles of responsibility either onwiki or offwiki, publishing research about
Wikimedia projects, years involved, etc.

Finally, decide what you want to ask the scholarship recipients to give you
in return.  Do you want them to commit to writing a report? commit to
sharing information with other groups/local editors/etc?

I'd encourage those offering scholarships to be forthright in identifying
the criteria that will be used to assess the applicants in advance, as much
as possible.  If this is a large event and you'll be making an open
invitation for scholarship applicants, it's important that you tell them
what kind of applicant you are looking for, what the scholarship includes
and excludes (e.g., travel, registration, accommodation, meals or per
diem), and what you expect in return for the scholarship.

Risker/Anne



On Mon, 7 Oct 2019 at 16:39, Lane Rasberry  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I have wished that eventually when people apply for scholarships or even
> when they attend wiki events they create profiles for themselves in
> Wikidata so that we could generate visualizations of the demographics of
> participants.
>
> I do not think the wiki movement is quite ready for this, but if we
> actually want to track and report demographics, doing so in Wikidata is
> probably the way most natural for the wiki community.
>
> On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 9:27 AM Fæ  wrote:
>
> > Plans for a Wikimedia LGBT+ conference and workshops in 2020 are
> > moving forward. We would very much like to learn and borrow successful
> > experiences from other conferences. This conference is expected to be
> > relatively modest in size, around 50 attendees, and is to be hosted in
> > Linz, Austria.
> >
> > We are planning on opening up applications for scholarships very soon,
> > to allow several months for early booking of travel tickets and visa
> > applications where needed. Naturally this means we have to create a
> > process for assessing applications to a hopefully short and
> > non-subjective checklist (we are all volunteers after all!).
> >
> > Can anyone recommend documented good practices for assessing
> > applications for travel grants and expenses for similar sized events?
> > Some issues we have discussed that need to be addressed before
> > finalizing our policies are:
> > * Creating a fair assessment process that balances the diversity of
> > attendees against other metrics like on-project experience, for
> > example ensuring that we have a healthy gender balance and a wide
> > geographic representation
> > * Whether it may be better to prefer the simplicity of assessing for
> > full scholarships, or whether partial payments are a good way of
> > ensuring wider access
> > * How to draw up rules for travel and partial scholarships for folks
> > planning on making this part of a holiday, as often happens for those
> > travelling long distances
> > * When to recommend that specific Wikimedia Affiliates should provide
> > grants and expenses, which may have additional requirements for
> > applications and reporting
> > * How to build in incentives for greener travel options, even where
> > this may not be the cheapest option
> >
> > You can read the conference proposal at
> >
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Conference/Kawayashu/Queering_Wikipedia
> > and everyone is welcome to provide suggestions and feedback on the
> > discussion page there, if 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [LGBT] Best practices for awarding scholarships

[Vi to]

Making their data publicly available? Yiiikes!

Vito

Il giorno lun 7 ott 2019 alle ore 22:39 Lane Rasberry 
ha scritto:

> Hello,
>
> I have wished that eventually when people apply for scholarships or even
> when they attend wiki events they create profiles for themselves in
> Wikidata so that we could generate visualizations of the demographics of
> participants.
>
> I do not think the wiki movement is quite ready for this, but if we
> actually want to track and report demographics, doing so in Wikidata is
> probably the way most natural for the wiki community.
>
> On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 9:27 AM Fæ  wrote:
>
> > Plans for a Wikimedia LGBT+ conference and workshops in 2020 are
> > moving forward. We would very much like to learn and borrow successful
> > experiences from other conferences. This conference is expected to be
> > relatively modest in size, around 50 attendees, and is to be hosted in
> > Linz, Austria.
> >
> > We are planning on opening up applications for scholarships very soon,
> > to allow several months for early booking of travel tickets and visa
> > applications where needed. Naturally this means we have to create a
> > process for assessing applications to a hopefully short and
> > non-subjective checklist (we are all volunteers after all!).
> >
> > Can anyone recommend documented good practices for assessing
> > applications for travel grants and expenses for similar sized events?
> > Some issues we have discussed that need to be addressed before
> > finalizing our policies are:
> > * Creating a fair assessment process that balances the diversity of
> > attendees against other metrics like on-project experience, for
> > example ensuring that we have a healthy gender balance and a wide
> > geographic representation
> > * Whether it may be better to prefer the simplicity of assessing for
> > full scholarships, or whether partial payments are a good way of
> > ensuring wider access
> > * How to draw up rules for travel and partial scholarships for folks
> > planning on making this part of a holiday, as often happens for those
> > travelling long distances
> > * When to recommend that specific Wikimedia Affiliates should provide
> > grants and expenses, which may have additional requirements for
> > applications and reporting
> > * How to build in incentives for greener travel options, even where
> > this may not be the cheapest option
> >
> > You can read the conference proposal at
> >
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Conference/Kawayashu/Queering_Wikipedia
> > and everyone is welcome to provide suggestions and feedback on the
> > discussion page there, if on-wiki editing works better for you than
> > email. :-)
> >
> > Thanks
> > Fae
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [LGBT] Best practices for awarding scholarships

[Lane Rasberry]

Hello,

I have wished that eventually when people apply for scholarships or even
when they attend wiki events they create profiles for themselves in
Wikidata so that we could generate visualizations of the demographics of
participants.

I do not think the wiki movement is quite ready for this, but if we
actually want to track and report demographics, doing so in Wikidata is
probably the way most natural for the wiki community.

On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 9:27 AM Fæ  wrote:

> Plans for a Wikimedia LGBT+ conference and workshops in 2020 are
> moving forward. We would very much like to learn and borrow successful
> experiences from other conferences. This conference is expected to be
> relatively modest in size, around 50 attendees, and is to be hosted in
> Linz, Austria.
>
> We are planning on opening up applications for scholarships very soon,
> to allow several months for early booking of travel tickets and visa
> applications where needed. Naturally this means we have to create a
> process for assessing applications to a hopefully short and
> non-subjective checklist (we are all volunteers after all!).
>
> Can anyone recommend documented good practices for assessing
> applications for travel grants and expenses for similar sized events?
> Some issues we have discussed that need to be addressed before
> finalizing our policies are:
> * Creating a fair assessment process that balances the diversity of
> attendees against other metrics like on-project experience, for
> example ensuring that we have a healthy gender balance and a wide
> geographic representation
> * Whether it may be better to prefer the simplicity of assessing for
> full scholarships, or whether partial payments are a good way of
> ensuring wider access
> * How to draw up rules for travel and partial scholarships for folks
> planning on making this part of a holiday, as often happens for those
> travelling long distances
> * When to recommend that specific Wikimedia Affiliates should provide
> grants and expenses, which may have additional requirements for
> applications and reporting
> * How to build in incentives for greener travel options, even where
> this may not be the cheapest option
>
> You can read the conference proposal at
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Conference/Kawayashu/Queering_Wikipedia
> and everyone is welcome to provide suggestions and feedback on the
> discussion page there, if on-wiki editing works better for you than
> email. :-)
>
> Thanks
> Fae
> --
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> fae...@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae
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[Wikimedia-l] Best practices for awarding scholarships

[Fæ]

Plans for a Wikimedia LGBT+ conference and workshops in 2020 are
moving forward. We would very much like to learn and borrow successful
experiences from other conferences. This conference is expected to be
relatively modest in size, around 50 attendees, and is to be hosted in
Linz, Austria.

We are planning on opening up applications for scholarships very soon,
to allow several months for early booking of travel tickets and visa
applications where needed. Naturally this means we have to create a
process for assessing applications to a hopefully short and
non-subjective checklist (we are all volunteers after all!).

Can anyone recommend documented good practices for assessing
applications for travel grants and expenses for similar sized events?
Some issues we have discussed that need to be addressed before
finalizing our policies are:
* Creating a fair assessment process that balances the diversity of
attendees against other metrics like on-project experience, for
example ensuring that we have a healthy gender balance and a wide
geographic representation
* Whether it may be better to prefer the simplicity of assessing for
full scholarships, or whether partial payments are a good way of
ensuring wider access
* How to draw up rules for travel and partial scholarships for folks
planning on making this part of a holiday, as often happens for those
travelling long distances
* When to recommend that specific Wikimedia Affiliates should provide
grants and expenses, which may have additional requirements for
applications and reporting
* How to build in incentives for greener travel options, even where
this may not be the cheapest option

You can read the conference proposal at
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Conference/Kawayashu/Queering_Wikipedia
and everyone is welcome to provide suggestions and feedback on the
discussion page there, if on-wiki editing works better for you than
email. :-)

Thanks
Fae
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fae...@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Affiliates] Recognition of the Wikimedians of Saint Petersburg User Group

[Chris Keating]

Hi Ziko,

I believe the only "official" rationale is in the 2012 Board resolution:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMF_Resolutions/Recognizing_Models_of_Affiliations

and the thinking behind this is documented here, also from 2011-12.
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Movement_roles_project

I do not know of any serious discussion on the subject until 2019, when a
you may know the Roles and Responsibilities strategy working group looked
at this and similar issues, and came to the conclusion that we should move
away from the idea of "WMF and affiliates"  to a more distributed approach
with a network of equal entities filling different roles, and more
structures to support and coordinate between them. (There are some
similarities between that and what the Wikimedians in Russia seem to be
moving towards organically, which is interesting.)

Chris



On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 12:50 PM Ziko van Dijk  wrote:

> Sorry, people, but I would like to read an official statement of the WMF
> (committee) what is the reason or rationale behind this policy to accept WM
> user groups in countries where you already have a chapter. Does anybody
> have a link?
> Kind regards
> Ziko
>
> Am Sa., 5. Okt. 2019 um 19:16 Uhr schrieb Paulo Santos Perneta <
> paulospern...@gmail.com>:
>
> > Hi Farhad,
> >
> > Very interesting, thank you very much for sharing your insight.
> > The advantages at an organizational level are quite obvious, indeed, and
> > it's a smart way to deal with those membership limitations.
> > I'm glad that the WMF & Wikimedia is abandoning the very rigid chapter
> > model as the preferred one, and is evolving into more flexible and
> nuanced
> > options and varieties, such as those confederations.
> >
> > Best,
> > Paulo
> >
> >
> > Фархад Фаткуллин / Farhad Fatkullin  escreveu no dia
> > sábado, 5/10/2019 à(s) 15:38:
> >
> > > Hi folks,
> > >
> > > I can probably comment this, as a member of both Wikimedia Russia and a
> > > Tatar language-specific UG.
> > > On top of participation in Wikimedia Language Diversity initiative on
> > > meta, I am also contemplating and working towards starting a
> > > territory-specific UG for my region + an incubator UG for more
> > > language-specific UG in the languages of Russia.
> > >
> > >
> > > Wikimedians of Russia seem to see the matreshkas of (1) "global
> > conference
> > > - regional conference - topic-specific conferences"  & (2) WMF &
> > affiliates
> > > general meeting - national chapters - UGs" as natural structures, each
> > > addressing different tasks, having different priorities, whilst
> > cooperating
> > > in various projects.
> > >
> > > * Wikimedia Russia legal requirements (in-person quorum for
> > > decision-making, etc.) doesn't allow us to accept into membership all
> > > members of all our regional, language or topic specific UGs. So our
> > chapter
> > > is evolving towards a mixed confederation status, selectively welcoming
> > > some members from various groupings around Russia (which themselves
> can't
> > > be neither cells nor branches of WMRU).
> > >
> > > * SPB is not purely a city, but a one of 85 provinces (read states) of
> > the
> > > Russian Federation (like my home Republic of Tatarstan, neighbouring
> > > Republic of Bashkortostan with its Bashkir Wiki-grandmas, or a city of
> > > Moscow).
> > >
> > > * Once we will spin out UG MSK, we will complete transforming Wikimedia
> > > Russia into a collective entity for join tasks, working on
> national-level
> > > advocacy & other projects.
> > >
> > > * We currently have 5 existing UGs, have two more filed & at least one
> > > more at the preparation stage - as this is a good way to engage locally
> > or
> > > topically interested public into Wikimedia universe.
> > >
> > >
> > > regards,
> > > farhad
> > >
> > > --
> > > Farhad Fatkullin - Фархад Фаткуллин Тел.+79274158066 / skype:frhdkazan
> /
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Affiliates] Recognition of the Wikimedians of Saint Petersburg User Group

[Ziko van Dijk]

Sorry, people, but I would like to read an official statement of the WMF
(committee) what is the reason or rationale behind this policy to accept WM
user groups in countries where you already have a chapter. Does anybody
have a link?
Kind regards
Ziko

Am Sa., 5. Okt. 2019 um 19:16 Uhr schrieb Paulo Santos Perneta <
paulospern...@gmail.com>:

> Hi Farhad,
>
> Very interesting, thank you very much for sharing your insight.
> The advantages at an organizational level are quite obvious, indeed, and
> it's a smart way to deal with those membership limitations.
> I'm glad that the WMF & Wikimedia is abandoning the very rigid chapter
> model as the preferred one, and is evolving into more flexible and nuanced
> options and varieties, such as those confederations.
>
> Best,
> Paulo
>
>
> Фархад Фаткуллин / Farhad Fatkullin  escreveu no dia
> sábado, 5/10/2019 à(s) 15:38:
>
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > I can probably comment this, as a member of both Wikimedia Russia and a
> > Tatar language-specific UG.
> > On top of participation in Wikimedia Language Diversity initiative on
> > meta, I am also contemplating and working towards starting a
> > territory-specific UG for my region + an incubator UG for more
> > language-specific UG in the languages of Russia.
> >
> >
> > Wikimedians of Russia seem to see the matreshkas of (1) "global
> conference
> > - regional conference - topic-specific conferences"  & (2) WMF &
> affiliates
> > general meeting - national chapters - UGs" as natural structures, each
> > addressing different tasks, having different priorities, whilst
> cooperating
> > in various projects.
> >
> > * Wikimedia Russia legal requirements (in-person quorum for
> > decision-making, etc.) doesn't allow us to accept into membership all
> > members of all our regional, language or topic specific UGs. So our
> chapter
> > is evolving towards a mixed confederation status, selectively welcoming
> > some members from various groupings around Russia (which themselves can't
> > be neither cells nor branches of WMRU).
> >
> > * SPB is not purely a city, but a one of 85 provinces (read states) of
> the
> > Russian Federation (like my home Republic of Tatarstan, neighbouring
> > Republic of Bashkortostan with its Bashkir Wiki-grandmas, or a city of
> > Moscow).
> >
> > * Once we will spin out UG MSK, we will complete transforming Wikimedia
> > Russia into a collective entity for join tasks, working on national-level
> > advocacy & other projects.
> >
> > * We currently have 5 existing UGs, have two more filed & at least one
> > more at the preparation stage - as this is a good way to engage locally
> or
> > topically interested public into Wikimedia universe.
> >
> >
> > regards,
> > farhad
> >
> > --
> > Farhad Fatkullin - Фархад Фаткуллин Тел.+79274158066 / skype:frhdkazan /
> > Wikipedia:frhdkazan / Wikidata:Q34036417
> >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Community Tech: New Format for 2020 Wishlist Survey

[Dan Garry (Deskana)]

On Sun, 6 Oct 2019 at 05:50, Gerard Meijssen 
wrote:

> The disappointing you show and the grotesque conclusions are imho based
> in a sense of entitlement.


I don't think calling Yuri's conclusions grotesque or saying he is entitled
are particularly productive comments. Let's keep this list discussion calm,
please?

Dan
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