[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Café online meeting for January 2020 with focus on the 2030 strategy

2020-02-04 Thread Pine W
Hello colleagues, The February 2020 Wikimedia Café meetup will occur on 15 February 2020 at 8:30 AM PST / 11:30 AM EST / 4:30 PM UTC / 10 PM IST. The date is earlier than usual in the month due to scheduling constraints. This month's meetup will focus on the 2030 strategy recommendations, and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Recommendations and community conversations launching next week

2020-02-04 Thread Peter Southwood
A big part of the problem is when these things are implemented, and people ask questions because they don't know what is going on, they are often met by complete absence of response from anyone at WMF, or in the case of the strategy, whoever it was that published the stuff for comment. I agree

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Recommendations and community conversations launching next week

2020-02-04 Thread Chris Keating
Hi Aron, > > I see this as a fundamental issue, that's strongly related to why so much > harassment (and lesser forms of incivility) are part of our everyday > editing experience (I'm talking about less-known members of the community, > who aren't protected by their established status, not us).

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Recommendations and community conversations launching next week

2020-02-04 Thread Aron Manning
On Tue, 4 Feb 2020 at 08:57, Chris Keating wrote: > In part this is because people were very angry about the issue at the time, > and that anger was dealt with very poorly at the time. > While MediaViewer's introduction wasn't prepared appropriately and superprotect was an inconsiderate, rushed

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Recommendations and community conversations launching next week

2020-02-04 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Hello, I strongly agree with what Chris wrote. In the Strategy discussions, I have experienced and witnessed several times that defenders of the "strategy synthesis/recommendations" do not want to talk about an issue. They say things like: * "this feels like défa vu" * "you are not constructive" *