Re: [Wikimedia-l] Annoying ads

[Samuel Klein]

>
> If you're browsing in a private-window, this means the browser cannot
> remember (save in a cookie) that you clicked "close" or saw the banner
> already, hence you might be seeing more banners than most readers would.
>

Worth mentioning each time it comes up:
This seems like an instance of where tracking interactions w/ a given {IP,
day} or {hash of browser fingerprint+IP+daily salt} would vastly outweigh
the challenges.  We can support private browsing, or any kind of browsing,
without creating a painful experience [which is also... not likely to
result in a donation].
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Annoying ads

[Nick Wilson (Quiddity)]

Hi John, thank you for the feedback.

The banners you see are continually changing, as we refine our designs
based on feedback and efficacy. Donation banners are inherently disruptive,
on any site. We try to minimize the annoyance whilst also maximizing the
effectiveness in order to show as few banners as possible. It's a difficult
balance, and feedback like yours, and the emails and comments we get from
readers, help us out over time.

If you don’t want to see fundraising banners, there are a few options: You
can login to Wikipedia, or click the "close" button in a banner, or visit
our donor thank you page.[1]

If you're browsing in a private-window, this means the browser cannot
remember (save in a cookie) that you clicked "close" or saw the banner
already, hence you might be seeing more banners than most readers would.

Thanks again,
Nick

[1] https://donate.wikimedia.org/wiki/Thank_You

On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 7:56 AM John Erling Blad  wrote:

> Often I surf Wikipedia without being logged in, and so I did right now. I
> got the usual banners, but this time they popped up repeatedly in several
> locations. This quickly gets extremely annoying, and I find it unwise.
> Create one banner, and stick with that. Several banners are simply way over
> the top.
>
> /jeblad
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Annoying ads

[Pierre-Yves Beaudouin via Wikimedia-l]

We should create a rule that state that each discussion on wikimedia-l
will end with "it's the fault of WMF!" ;)

The problem of viewing
several banners at the same time happens because some community members
still use Sitenotice. I think that it's a bad idea and that they should
only use Centralnotice. 

Pyb

Le 2020-05-04 17:26, Robert Fernandez a
écrit :

> I know this might sound crazy, but have you considered
logging in?
> 
> On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 10:56 AM John Erling Blad
 wrote:
> 
>> Often I surf Wikipedia without being
logged in, and so I did right now. I
>> got the usual banners, but this
time they popped up repeatedly in several
>> locations. This quickly
gets extremely annoying, and I find it unwise.
>> Create one banner, and
stick with that. Several banners are simply way over
>> the top.
>> 
>>
/jeblad
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Annoying ads

[Robert Fernandez]

I know this might sound crazy, but have you considered logging in?

On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 10:56 AM John Erling Blad  wrote:

> Often I surf Wikipedia without being logged in, and so I did right now. I
> got the usual banners, but this time they popped up repeatedly in several
> locations. This quickly gets extremely annoying, and I find it unwise.
> Create one banner, and stick with that. Several banners are simply way over
> the top.
>
> /jeblad
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Annoying ads

[Benjamin Ikuta]

Countless editors, myself included, have complained about this over the years. 

Regarding the WMF's response, actions speak louder than words. 



On May 4, 2020, at 7:55 AM, John Erling Blad  wrote:

> Often I surf Wikipedia without being logged in, and so I did right now. I
> got the usual banners, but this time they popped up repeatedly in several
> locations. This quickly gets extremely annoying, and I find it unwise.
> Create one banner, and stick with that. Several banners are simply way over
> the top.
> 
> /jeblad
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[Wikimedia-l] Annoying ads

[John Erling Blad]

Often I surf Wikipedia without being logged in, and so I did right now. I
got the usual banners, but this time they popped up repeatedly in several
locations. This quickly gets extremely annoying, and I find it unwise.
Create one banner, and stick with that. Several banners are simply way over
the top.

/jeblad
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