Re: [Wikimedia-l] Paid API?

2020-06-14 Thread Ariel Glenn WMF
I know that the dumps will be freely available to all. Beyond that, I hope one of the people in the project will reply to your concerns. I do suggest that people comment or ask questions on the task itself, as I have no idea if any of the people on the brand new team involved with that project

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Paid API?

2020-06-14 Thread Joseph Seddon
Hey Amir! Thanks for your questions. It’s sunday (for me 0400 on a Monday) and a mailing list isn’t the right venue for a full detailed explanation for this but I’ll give a little background. James is correct that the work in this area is coming out of the strategy process and the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] NEW: Wikimedia Clinic calls, starting June 15th

2020-06-14 Thread Asaf Bartov
Reminder: the Wikimedia Clinic calls experiment is about to begin. The first calls are scheduled for: - Monday, June 15th, 17:30 (5:30pm) UTC, and this is the Google Meet link . Link to a WorldTimeBuddy event for timezone convenience

[Wikimedia-l] Paid API?

2020-06-14 Thread Amir Sarabadani
Hello, Today I stumbled upon this public phabricator ticket [1] created by someone from WMF starting with: "My team is creating bi-weekly HTML Dumps for all of the wikis, except for wikidata as part of the paid API project." I have so many questions: - What is the "paid API" project? Are we

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Paid API?

2020-06-14 Thread James Heilman
Further details are forthcoming from WMF staff. J On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 1:42 PM James Heilman wrote: > Was discussed here > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Recommendations/Iteration_1/Revenue_Streams/1 > > and > > >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Paid API?

2020-06-14 Thread James Heilman
Was discussed here https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Recommendations/Iteration_1/Revenue_Streams/1 and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Recommendations/Iteration_1/Revenue_Streams/1 James On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 1:37 PM

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Paid API?

2020-06-14 Thread Yair Rand
The strategy recommendations include the text: "Explore fees or sustainability models for enterprise-scale commercial reusers, taking care to avoid revenue dependencies or other undue external influence in product design and development. / Develop appropriate safeguards to ensure continued free,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Paid API?

2020-06-14 Thread Amir Sarabadani
Thanks for the pointers, I personally disagree with some parts of it (e.g. Twitter is a company and we are an NGO) BUT since it passed the community consultation (and I somehow missed it to raise my feedback), I don't want to be vocal about the high level reasoning behind the project. What I