[Wikimedia-l] Re: Foundation org chart

2021-07-09 Thread Željko Blaće
On Fri, Jul 9, 2021 at 11:17 PM Dggenwp  wrote:
> The projects are the route by  which content is added to Wikipedia. The 
> purpose of Wikipedia is not to have an organisation—the purpose  is to have 
> and distribute free content. Everything else is superstructure—everything 
> except the individual volunteers and the projects. This superstructure can be 
> important, but not essential — the volunteers are capable of organising 
> themselves and maintaining the projects. The foundation by itself is capable 
> of almost nothing, as it doesn’t add content. The chapters are of value, 
> primarily in recruiting contributors—without that, they’d just be social 
> clubs.
>
> The volunteers and the projects to which they add content are what matters. 
> The three key functions of the organisation are maintaining MediaWiki  (but 
> that’s a volunteer effort also) in raising the small amount of essential 
> funding, and the critically important political work of supporting freedom of 
> the internet and of speech more generally. But our influence for this is 
> because people in the world use the content the volunteers add to the 
> projects. The structure must be organised around them. We are here to build 
> an encyclopaedia.


Without wish to argue against anything of what you wrote (can
certainly agree with orientation), I would add (somewhat in your
style) that this is 2021 and Wikimedia sister projects have also their
own dynamics as well as playing part in the larger ecosystem of open
knowledge, code, media, information, but also related dissemination,
development, deployment, publication, participation, coordination,
collaboration, education, preservation and other types of work that is
non-encyclopedic.

Btw it is a good practice not to speak for everyone, even when this is
partial truth, as it is not the only and nothing but the truth for
everyone here ;-)

Best Z.
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Foundation org chart

2021-07-09 Thread Dggenwp
The projects are the route by  which content is added to Wikipedia. The purpose 
of Wikipedia is not to have an organisation—the purpose  is to have and 
distribute free content. Everything else is superstructure—everything except 
the individual volunteers and the projects. This superstructure can be 
important, but not essential — the volunteers are capable of organising 
themselves and maintaining the projects. The foundation by itself is capable of 
almost nothing, as it doesn’t add content. The chapters are of value, primarily 
in recruiting contributors—without that, they’d just be social clubs. 

The volunteers and the projects to which they add content are what matters. The 
three key functions of the organisation are maintaining MediaWiki  (but that’s 
a volunteer effort also) in raising the small amount of essential funding, and 
the critically important political work of supporting freedom of the internet 
and of speech more generally. But our influence for this is because people in 
the world use the content the volunteers add to the projects. The structure 
must be organised around them. We are here to build an encyclopaedia.
 





> On Jul 7, 2021, at 12:59 AM, Željko Blaće  wrote:
> 
> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021, Ciell Wikipedia  wrote:
>> Thank you Bill, I always find organisation charts very much enlightening, 
>> and have been missing something like it for the WMF for some time now.
> 
> I feel the same. We need much much more of diagramatic content and higher 
> level of organizational understanding for all Wikimedia contributors. 
> 
>  
>> I think all the departments of the WMF-side are equal, right? For instance, 
>> legal has no higher 'status' then fundraising or research: employees are 
>> equals, just with a different function in the organisation.Therefore all the 
>> different departments should be presented in a horizontal line, not a 
>> vertical one, like in this one for example.
> 
> Kind of good point, but maybe scale (same size) is enough to represent 
> equals, rather than direction/orientation? Not an expert.
> 
> BTW. 
> .svg file export would be best 
> for the posibility of translation 
> within Wikimedia Commons ;-)
> 
> 
> Best, Z.
>  
>> Vriendelijke groet,
>> Ciell
>> 
>> 
>> Op di 6 jul. 2021 om 01:03 schreef Bill Takatoshi :
>>> Earlier today I tried to predict what the WMF org chart will look
>>> like, but I wasn't confident about my suggestion, so I created a new
>>> email account, subscribed it to wikimedia-l, and tried to send from
>>> there. I learned that new subscribers are moderated, which seems
>>> sensible given the level of trolling and disruption, and have since
>>> improved the prediction and become more confident about it. I have
>>> since learned that HTML email with embedded email attachments aren't
>>> allowed either, so, Moderators, please reject my earlier anonymous
>>> submission(s).
>>> 
>>> This is what I predict the Wikimedia organizational chart will look
>>> like in one year's time:
>>> 
>>>  https://i.ibb.co/HPzpqLt/WMF-orgchart.png
>>> 
>>> Please critique it! If you are running for the Board of Directors, I
>>> am especially interested in your critique of this prediction.
>>> 
>>> Thank you!
>>> 
>>> -Will
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