[Wikimedia-l] Re: Are we losing our readers?

2022-01-07 Thread Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga
There's another option: the 2020 pandemic lockdowns made a huge peak on views, so year on year, 2021 has worse results.2022(e)ko urt. 7(a) 18:41 erabiltzaileak hau idatzi du (Anders Wennersten ):When I look at statistics for mature wikipedias: en, de pl, nl they all show a decrease of views of

[Wikimedia-l] Are we losing our readers?

2022-01-07 Thread Anders Wennersten
When I look at statistics for mature wikipedias: en, de pl, nl they all show a decrease of views of 13-15% in last 12 months from a year ago, and number of active editors down 10- 20 % (with exception of en). Has this been analysed somewhere, are we losing our readers and contributors or is

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Are we losing our readers?

2022-01-07 Thread Tito Dutta
We have seen several search results where Wikipedia search rank have gone down. It is not only me but several other Wikmedians have found the same, so it may not be a user preference/behaviour issue. It is also not only for specific search such as "vaccine", where Google would show WHO. শুক্র, 7

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Are we losing our readers?

2022-01-07 Thread Toni Ristovski
Additionally, pandemic 2020 with a lot of lockdowns makes many people commit to different activities, among them starting editing on Wikipedia or reading more. Basically, in my opinion it is better to compare with 2019 numbers. Also, it will be useful to have some kind of survey about this which

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Are we losing our readers?

2022-01-07 Thread Adam Sobieski
Nathan, All, I wonder if Google maintains provenance for their “snippets” and whether developers and platform teams would be interested in requesting an API which includes features such as subscribing to pings (daily, weekly, or monthly) reporting usage data pertaining to derived data. The

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Are we losing our readers?

2022-01-07 Thread Nathan
I think a lot has been said on this list over the last few years about a couple of major factors that probably still play a role: * Shift to mobile device usage and how that affects Wikipedia usage and pageview stats * Availability of more and more "snippets" in search engine results, which often

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Are we losing our readers?

2022-01-07 Thread F. Xavier Dengra i Grau via Wikimedia-l
Hi/Bona nit Specifically regarding the last emails about videos and new formats in university students and their use of Wikipedia. A truth is that we already had the chance to integrate better multimedia contents and formats via some channels that he already had: our sister projects.

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Are we losing our readers?

2022-01-07 Thread James Heilman
Well the story around Osmosis has further details... They released their first 300 or so vidoes under an open license and they were within Wikipedia articles for a while. You can still see them on Commons here: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Videos_from_Osmosis A number of folks

[Wikimedia-l] The Wikimedia Foundation Research Award of the Year - Call for Nominations

2022-01-07 Thread Leila Zia
[Apologies for cross-posting.] Hi all, We invite you to nominate one or more scholarly research publications to be considered for the Wikimedia Foundation Research Award of the Year. Learn more below. =Purpose of the award= Recognize recent research on or about the Wikimedia projects or recent

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Are we losing our readers?

2022-01-07 Thread James Heilman
Have been tracking medical pageviews for EN WP for more than 10 years. It appears our readership peaked around 2014, there was a bump during the pandemic, and now the fall in pageviews is continuing again... This despite much of our pageviews for medicine continuing to be related to the pandemic.

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Are we losing our readers?

2022-01-07 Thread Mohamed ElGohary
"Is the traffic measured where content is read" would be a better way of putting it. -- Gohary (ircpresident) On Sat, Jan 8, 2022 at 12:52 AM Juergen Fenn wrote: > Anders raised the question how this relates to "smarter" machine-created > traffic. Do we know more about this? > > Best Regards,

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Are we losing our readers?

2022-01-07 Thread Juergen Fenn
Anders raised the question how this relates to "smarter" machine-created traffic. Do we know more about this? Best Regards, Jürgen. Am 07.01.22 um 21:45 Uhr schrieb James Heilman: > Have been tracking medical pageviews for EN WP for more than 10 years. > It appears our readership peaked around

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Are we losing our readers?

2022-01-07 Thread James Heilman
With respect to some anecdotal evidence, I have for many years asked the medical students who work with me on their clinical rotations how they study. I get a few passes through my department a month. Most reported using Wikipedia 5 to 10 years back. Now sources like Osmosis, which are basically

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Are we losing our readers?

2022-01-07 Thread Juergen Fenn
Thanks, James. I think this is an important point. So we could say we have lost a part of acedemia. More to the point, we seem to have failed to integrate course materials and multimedia formats into Wikipedia articles. Could we try and create some of these and integrate them into articles