Re: [Wikimedia-l] speedydeletion.wika.com lauched

2012-06-12 Thread Anthony
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 9:02 AM, Tarc Meridian t...@hotmail.com wrote:

 This  has been tried before, i.e. wikialpha.org.  Pages are speedily deleted 
 for a reason, many of them quite properly so.  Moving potentially libelous 
 BLP attack pages and other sundry junk to a publicly viewable wiki is not a 
 very well-thought-out idea.

Every new article is potentially libelous.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] TomTom does a Britannica

2012-06-12 Thread Strainu
2012/5/29 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com:
 On 29 May 2012 13:08, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote:
 Yes, TomTom is dying.  But it's because of Google, not because of OSM.


 I'd actually flag smartphones as the culprit.

Well, the empire strikes back:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/11/apple-tomtom-ios-6-maps/ :) Another
usable app for Romania.

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[Wikimedia-l] Office hour: Wikipedia Education Programs in Canada and U.S.

2012-06-12 Thread Rob Schnautz
In anticipation of some major changes that are coming up in the U.S. and Canada 
Education Programs, the Wikimedia Foundation staff for the Wikipedia Education 
Program (Frank Schulenburg, Annie Lin, LiAnna Davis, Jami Mathewson, and I) 
will be hosting a scheduled public office hour in the #wikimedia-office IRC 
channel.

Date: Thursday, 21 June 2012
Time: 16:00 – 17:00 UTC (noon-1 p.m. EDT, 9-10 a.m. PDT) (click here for local 
time)

If you have questions or concerns about the programs, or are simply curious, 
this is a great opportunity to gain better insight into these programs. If you 
are unable to attend, a link to the chat log will be posted at 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours for public viewing following 
the session.

Details on how to join the session are included below. We look forward to 
chatting with you!

Rob Schnautz
Online Communications Contractor
Global Development
Wikimedia Foundation

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click through a security warning. It's fine.
For more information about IRC software you can install on your computer, go to 
the Wikipedia entry on IRC or the Meta page on Wikimedia IRC. If using 
dedicated software, connect to the channel #wikimedia-officeconnect on the 
freenode network.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] The Grant Advisory Committee is expanding!

2012-06-12 Thread Asaf Bartov
Reminder: The Grant Advisory Committee is expanding.  If you'd like to help
grantees and the Foundation in its grantmaking, consider submitting your
candidacy here:

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grant_Advisory_Committee/Candidates

Cheers,

   Asaf

On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 5:33 PM, Asaf Bartov abar...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 Dear colleagues,

 The Wikimedia Foundation would like to expand its Grant Advisory
 Committee[1], and we would like you to consider whether you might be
 interested in volunteering in that capacity.

 The GAC (as it is affectionately known) is an advisory body performing a
 double function in relation to the Wikimedia Foundation's Grants Program[3]
 --

 1. The GAC advises grant applicants on how to improve and clarify their
 proposals and their plans.  This often extends to advice not just about how
 to secure the funds, but how to improve the planning of the project/event
 or what precedents to look at, for positive or negative examples.
 2. The GAC advises the Foundation on the mission fit, frugality, and
 expected impact of grant proposals, expressing support or concerns about
 open grant proposals.

 If this sounds like something you might want to help with, please review
 the description of the GAC[1] and the membership criteria[2].  If you think
 you meet the criteria, add your name to the candidates page[4] with a brief
 statement demonstrating your meeting the criteria.  This is to be an open
 process, and the number of seats on the GAC is not predetermined; we expect
 all qualifying candidates to be admitted into the GAC.

 Please help us reach potential volunteers by sharing/forwarding this
 announcement in appropriate community mailing lists.

 Finally, I'd like to thank the incumbent members of the GAC (founded
 exactly one year ago), who are putting in their time and experience and
 have been making a real difference in our grantmaking this past year.

 Thank you,

Asaf

 [1] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grant_Advisory_Committee
 [2]
 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grant_Advisory_Committee/Membership_criteria
 [3] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Index
 [4] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grant_Advisory_Committee/Candidates
 --
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Update on IPv6

2012-06-12 Thread Kim Bruning
On Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 11:12:58PM +0200, Erik Moeller wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 We're planning to do limited production testing of IPv6 during the
 Berlin Hackathon 2012 (June 2-3). Provided that the number of issues
 we encounter are manageable, we may fully enable IPv6 on IPv6 day, and
 keep it enabled.


What with XS4ALL (my ISP) now also offering IPv6 out-of-the-box, there's 
at least one extra IPv6 anon on en.wp. ;-)


I noticed that my current IPv6 address appears to be assigned
dynamically by XS4ALL. I can probably get static if I choose it. But the
dynamic assignment option does alleviate some people's privacy
concerns, right?

sincerely,
Kim Bruning


ps. We all know that everyone needs to switch to IPv6 eventually.
Don't be surprised when people in your neighborhood decide to do
so, with or without additional warning.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] speedydeletion.wika.com lauched

2012-06-12 Thread Thomas Morton
This has been debated numerous times; to what extent does the attribution
have to relate to the exact contribution of each author.

A list of authors has been considered acceptable in the past (including
on-wiki).

Tom

On 12 June 2012 23:48, Kim Bruning k...@bruning.xs4all.nl wrote:

 On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 05:44:40AM +, Mike Dupont wrote:
  Hi,
 
  Again the full history is available on archive.org and i think that no
 one
  is going to think that this data is from me, it is clearly marked as
 being
  from wikipedia.


 You are very concientious, and normally this would indeed be adequate (not
 perfect,
 but definitely adequate :)

 It is adequate because wikipedia itself retains full attribution
 information in
 page history. One can follow the chain from the copy back to the wikipedia
 original
 back to the page history and voila, more than you ever wanted to know.

 The problem with deleted/hidden articles on en.wp is that the history
 information
 is also deleted/hidden; and therefore the attribution chain is broken.

 Attribution information is important for legal and open content reasons of
 course.

 Is it possible to keep a copy of page history somewhere also?

 I know the mediawiki export/import functions support this, and work
 via GET request.
 see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Export

 eg:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Export/Train

 sincerely,
Kim Bruning

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] speedydeletion.wika.com lauched

2012-06-12 Thread Kim Bruning

In theory, yes. However, if you're fetching page dumps conforming to the schema 
at
http://www.mediawiki.org/xml/export-0.6/ 
http://www.mediawiki.org/xml/export-0.6.xsd

to some extent you've already got all the information anyway. It *almost* takes 
more work
to filter out just the authors. :-P

If you're getting page data in some different format, sure. :-)

sincerely,
Kim Bruning


On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 12:47:31AM +0100, Thomas Morton wrote:
 This has been debated numerous times; to what extent does the attribution
 have to relate to the exact contribution of each author.
 
 A list of authors has been considered acceptable in the past (including
 on-wiki).
 
 Tom
 
 On 12 June 2012 23:48, Kim Bruning k...@bruning.xs4all.nl wrote:
 
  On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 05:44:40AM +, Mike Dupont wrote:
   Hi,
  
   Again the full history is available on archive.org and i think that no
  one
   is going to think that this data is from me, it is clearly marked as
  being
   from wikipedia.
 
 
  You are very concientious, and normally this would indeed be adequate (not
  perfect,
  but definitely adequate :)
 
  It is adequate because wikipedia itself retains full attribution
  information in
  page history. One can follow the chain from the copy back to the wikipedia
  original
  back to the page history and voila, more than you ever wanted to know.
 
  The problem with deleted/hidden articles on en.wp is that the history
  information
  is also deleted/hidden; and therefore the attribution chain is broken.
 
  Attribution information is important for legal and open content reasons of
  course.
 
  Is it possible to keep a copy of page history somewhere also?
 
  I know the mediawiki export/import functions support this, and work
  via GET request.
  see
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Export
 
  eg:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Export/Train
 
  sincerely,
 Kim Bruning
 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] speedydeletion.wika.com lauched

2012-06-12 Thread Kim Bruning
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 05:44:40AM +, Mike Dupont wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Again the full history is available on archive.org and i think that no one
 is going to think that this data is from me, it is clearly marked as being
 from wikipedia.

ps. It occurs to me that if the full history is available on archive.org, that
linking to the relevant archive.org data might be adequate.



sincerely,
Kim Bruning

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[Wikimedia-l] FDC Nominations are open

2012-06-12 Thread Asaf Bartov
Hi, everyone.

As you probably know, we have been discussing the creation of a new Funds
Dissemination Committee (FDC)[1] across the movement for several months
now, following the board resolution[2].

Now is a good time to start collecting potential nominees to serve on the
future FDC, as we hope to select members by late August, and to have a
working committee some time in September.  Following the second Advisory
Group meeting[3], the draft proposal[4] is coming along, and you can read
it to get an idea of what the FDC will be tasked with, and what kind of
work and background are expected of its volunteer members.

==Why you'd want to volunteer with the FDC==

* you will be reviewing proposals and making recommendations about the
effective spending of millions of dollars, shaping the direction of impact
of a significant portion of our movement's financial resources.
* your decision-making will be supported by professional staff tasked with
a lot of the decision-supporting information gathering, summarizing, etc.
* you will gain valuable experience in grant-making, project evaluation,
and planning on a global and multi-cultural level.
* you will be working with 8 other great and dedicated individuals from
across the movement.

==Why you might not want to volunteer with the FDC==

* The FDC will commit to, and enforce, a high standard of participation,
and you may not be ready to seriously commit to a high level of
participation for at least two years.
* The FDC's work will be conducted in English, and even with maximal
support and summarization from staff, you will be required to read a lot of
text in English, and to make your contributions in English.
* You don't meet the membership criteria[5], or you're confident other
candidates are better qualified or positioned to serve on the committee.

If you're interested in serving on the future FDC, please add your name to
the nominations page[6].  You will be contacted shortly and asked to make a
statement.

Thanks,

   Asaf

[1] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Funds_Dissemination_Committee
[2]
http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:Funds_Dissemination_Committee
[4]
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Funds_Dissemination_Committee/FDC_Advisory_Group_meeting_June_9-10,_2012
[4]
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Funds_Dissemination_Committee/Draft_FDC_Proposal_for_the_Board
[5]
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Funds_Dissemination_Committee/Draft_FDC_Proposal_for_the_Board#Membership
[6] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Funds_Dissemination_Committee/Nominations
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] speedydeletion.wika.com lauched

2012-06-12 Thread Mike Dupont
yes, good point, and while checking this I found a problem.

it turns out that up to now I dont have the full history, I have modified
the extractor to pull the full version. For the other articles, I dont have
the full history.

mike


On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 11:03 PM, Kim Bruning k...@bruning.xs4all.nl wrote:

 On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 05:44:40AM +, Mike Dupont wrote:
  Hi,
 
  Again the full history is available on archive.org and i think that no
 one
  is going to think that this data is from me, it is clearly marked as
 being
  from wikipedia.

 ps. It occurs to me that if the full history is available on archive.org,
 that
 linking to the relevant archive.org data might be adequate.



 sincerely,
Kim Bruning

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