[Wikimedia-l] Endangered languages, a new project by Google

2012-06-21 Thread emijrp
A new project by Google to protect endangered languages around the world: http://www.endangeredlanguages.com English blog post: http://googleblog.blogspot.com.es/2012/06/endangered-languages-project-supporting.html Spanish translation:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who invoked principle of least surprise for the image filter?

2012-06-21 Thread Seth Finkelstein
Reply-To: References: CAHRTtW_LoeHFcPb6vUmw7BwOqJECuvSR1-gqNWcC7kmZ=nf...@mail.gmail.com In-Reply-To: CAHRTtW_LoeHFcPb6vUmw7BwOqJECuvSR1-gqNWcC7kmZ=nf...@mail.gmail.com Andreas Kolbe As Seth Finkelstein pointed out the other day, there is opposition to pornography both from the right, on a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who invoked principle of least surprise for the image filter?

2012-06-21 Thread Todd Allen
On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 4:46 PM, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote: On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 6:03 PM, Todd Allen toddmal...@gmail.com wrote: {{sofixit}}, just like any area with NPOV/undue weight issues. The next day someone will fix it back. - Douglas Hofstadter Such is the nature of this

[Wikimedia-l] Wikimapia switches to CC-BY-SA !

2012-06-21 Thread Samuel Klein
Forwarding good news via the India list. SJ -- Forwarded message -- From: Arjuna Rao Chavala arjunar...@gmail.com Date: Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 7:50 AM Subject: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimapia switches to CC-BY-SA To: Discussion list on Indian language projects of Wikimedia.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Endangered languages, a new project by Google

2012-06-21 Thread Samuel Klein
Brilliant. The WM language committee and/or lenguasoriginarias might want to apply to join the Alliance for Linguistic Diversity. http://www.endangeredlanguages.com/about/#about_alliance SJ On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 9:06 AM, emijrp emi...@gmail.com wrote: A new project by Google to protect

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Endangered languages, a new project by Google

2012-06-21 Thread shi zhao
license under the cc-by-3.0, see http://www.endangeredlanguages.com/tos/ Chinese wikipedia: http://zh.wikipedia.org/ My blog: http://shizhao.org twitter: https://twitter.com/shizhao [[zh:User:Shizhao]] 2012/6/21 Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com Brilliant. The WM language committee and/or

[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Input on new models

2012-06-21 Thread Samuel Klein
Forwarding on behalf of Bence. -- Forwarded message -- From: Bence Damokos bdamo...@gmail.com Date: Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 2:41 PM Subject: [Movementroles] Input on new models Hi all, Currently, the Chapters/Affiliations Committee is considering the procedural elements needed for

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Endangered languages, a new project by Google

2012-06-21 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Samuel Klein, 21/06/2012 16:07: Brilliant. The WM language committee and/or lenguasoriginarias might want to apply to join the Alliance for Linguistic Diversity. http://www.endangeredlanguages.com/about/#about_alliance Are they actually doing something or is this only a showcase-site/forum?

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who invoked principle of least surprise for the image filter?

2012-06-21 Thread Anthony
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Todd Allen toddmal...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 4:46 PM, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote: On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 6:03 PM, Todd Allen toddmal...@gmail.com wrote: {{sofixit}}, just like any area with NPOV/undue weight issues. The next day

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who invoked principle of least surprise for the image filter?

2012-06-21 Thread Todd Allen
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 10:18 AM, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote: On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Todd Allen toddmal...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 4:46 PM, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote: On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 6:03 PM, Todd Allen toddmal...@gmail.com wrote: {{sofixit}},

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who invoked principle of least surprise for the image filter?

2012-06-21 Thread Todd Allen
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote: On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Todd Allen toddmal...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 10:18 AM, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote: On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Todd Allen toddmal...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who invoked principle of least surprise for the image filter?

2012-06-21 Thread Anthony
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Todd Allen toddmal...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote: Heh.  Sorry, I have to laugh any time I hear a...person heavily versed in Wikipedia-speak...use the word consensus. That's the way the project works. You

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who invoked principle of least surprise for the image filter?

2012-06-21 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Child porn is illegal, that's been upheld by the Supreme Court repeatedly, end of discussion. If 2257 were similarly upheld to apply even in circumstances of educational/artistic work, I suppose we'd similarly have to follow it like it or not, but it is untested in such areas, and I suspect

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Afripedia, a project to help the development of Wikipedia in French-speaking Africa

2012-06-21 Thread Hubert
wow, really fantastic! Sounds like pioneer-work! hubertl Am 20.06.2012 22:43, schrieb Adrienne Alix: [Apologize for cross posting... ] Hello, Wikimedia France is very happy to announce a great new project : A partnership has been formalized on last Friday between Wikimédia France,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who invoked principle of least surprise for the image filter?

2012-06-21 Thread Yann Forget
2012/6/21 Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com: Incidentally, a Commons copyright specialist is currently being banned for copyright specialist? Is this supposed to be a joke? A 4th degree sargasm? An alien way of defining a specialist? Or anything else? Yann (cut nonsense rethoric about the PK

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who invoked principle of least surprise for the image filter?

2012-06-21 Thread Anthony
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 6:46 PM, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote: Many images on Wikipedia have been taken without the subject's genuine consent.  So surely that isn't the issue. Many are transferred to Commons from

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who invoked principle of least surprise for the image filter?

2012-06-21 Thread Anthony
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote: Secondly, I'm not talking just about sexually explicit photos. Wikipedia has photos of people being or about to be [[behead]]ed, [[torture]]d, [[kidnap]]ped, [[assassination]]ed, etc.  I checked, and there's no photograph of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who invoked principle of least surprise for the image filter?

2012-06-21 Thread Yann Forget
2012/6/21 Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com: Incidentally, a Commons copyright specialist is currently being banned for nominating admins' copyright violations for deletion, even though the vast majority of his deletions have always turned out to be correct ... the administrators are feeling

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who invoked principle of least surprise for the image filter?

2012-06-21 Thread Todd Allen
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 12:10 PM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 6:46 PM, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote: Many images on Wikipedia have been taken without the subject's genuine consent.  So surely that isn't the issue. Many are transferred to Commons from

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who invoked principle of least surprise for the image filter?

2012-06-21 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 7:22 PM, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote: Well, first of all, why? Secondly, I'm not talking just about sexually explicit photos. Wikipedia has photos of people being or about to be [[behead]]ed, [[torture]]d, [[kidnap]]ped, [[assassination]]ed, etc. I checked, and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who invoked principle of least surprise for the image filter?

2012-06-21 Thread Anthony
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: Well, Todd has certainly said on-wiki in the past that he would not see a problem in Wikipedia using a video of rape to illustrate an article on the topic, provided it were appropriately licensed and did not raise privacy

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who invoked principle of least surprise for the image filter?

2012-06-21 Thread Tobias Oelgarte
Am 21.06.2012 21:55, schrieb Andreas Kolbe: On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 7:50 PM, Todd Allentoddmal...@gmail.com wrote: This thread isn't about copyvios, and I don't want to get too far afield, but I think it does kind of show the thought process here sometimes. From my read of the discussions

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who invoked principle of least surprise for the image filter?

2012-06-21 Thread David Gerard
On 21 June 2012 20:38, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: Well, Todd has certainly said on-wiki in the past that he would not see a problem in Wikipedia using a video of rape to illustrate an article on the topic, provided it were appropriately licensed and did not raise privacy concerns

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who invoked principle of least surprise for the image filter?

2012-06-21 Thread Tobias Oelgarte
Am 21.06.2012 22:24, schrieb Anthony: On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Andreas Kolbejayen...@gmail.com wrote: Well, Todd has certainly said on-wiki in the past that he would not see a problem in Wikipedia using a video of rape to illustrate an article on the topic, provided it were

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who invoked principle of least surprise for the image filter?

2012-06-21 Thread Anthony
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 4:44 PM, Tobias Oelgarte tobias.oelga...@googlemail.com wrote: Can you point me to any examples of real child abuse, sexual abuse or of child sexual abuse? On Wikipedia? On Commons? Anywhere? For child sexual abuse, I was referring mainly to the Virgin Killer image

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who invoked principle of least surprise for the image filter?

2012-06-21 Thread Todd Allen
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 1:38 PM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 7:22 PM, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote: Well, first of all, why? Secondly, I'm not talking just about sexually explicit photos. Wikipedia has photos of people being or about to be

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who invoked principle of least surprise for the image filter?

2012-06-21 Thread Anthony
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 5:10 PM, Todd Allen toddmal...@gmail.com wrote: But in practice, we do have photos of victims at articles such as [[Rape of Nanking]] and [[Holocaust]]. Some of those photos are extremely disturbing. That's because the articles are about extremely disturbing subjects.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who invoked principle of least surprise for the image filter?

2012-06-21 Thread Tobias Oelgarte
Am 21.06.2012 22:51, schrieb Anthony: On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 4:44 PM, Tobias Oelgarte tobias.oelga...@googlemail.com wrote: Can you point me to any examples of real child abuse, sexual abuse or of child sexual abuse? On Wikipedia? On Commons? Anywhere? Do i really need to answer this

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Purpose-driven motivation

2012-06-21 Thread Kim Bruning
On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 08:57:31PM -0700, Steven Walling wrote: On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 7:05 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Hi. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QM9p4o050EY Someone sent this to me earlier this week. It's a ten-minute cartoon video that discusses purpose and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who invoked principle of least surprise for the image filter?

2012-06-21 Thread Tobias Oelgarte
Am 22.06.2012 00:02, schrieb Anthony: On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 5:48 PM, Tobias Oelgarte tobias.oelga...@googlemail.com wrote: Am 21.06.2012 22:51, schrieb Anthony: On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 4:44 PM, Tobias Oelgarte tobias.oelga...@googlemail.comwrote: Can you point me to any examples of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Afripedia, a project to help the development of Wikipedia in French-speaking Africa

2012-06-21 Thread Samuel Klein
Adrienne, This sounds fantastic. And it is good to hear Kiwix is getting some direct support. What sorts of plug computers are you using? I take it most people will be accessing WP via mobile phones. You might also consider explicitly distributing books from wikibooks and wikisource (if not

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who invoked principle of least surprise for the image filter?

2012-06-21 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 10:10 PM, Todd Allen toddmal...@gmail.com wrote: That was a highly theoretical scenario (and one you brought up for that reason, as I recall.) But in practice, we do have photos of victims at articles such as [[Rape of Nanking]] and [[Holocaust]]. Some of those photos