Re: [Wikimedia-l] Declaring my candidacy
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 12:01 AM, Theo10011 de10...@gmail.com wrote: You would also have to accept that you are/will be part of the WMF board. You'd have access to less and in some case, more information, but not a lot besides what people choose to disclose. This interim time between the WMDE board and WMF board is transitory. So, I would only remind that you be patient for now, you will not be entitled to any more or less information than rest of the board, as much as all of us here are entitled to what the board has or will discuss. And I do recall when the calls were made last to ask what the board was discussing. Somehow the rest of the board seems to have subsisted on the available information. Oh, I didn't realize that we were talking about the Board. Thanks for showing me where my place is. Alice. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Russian Wikipedia goes on strike
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 7:58 AM, Keegan Peterzell keegan.w...@gmail.com wrote: Okay, I'll bite. This is just my opinion and based on SOPA in the United States and what our government represents. Thanks! I am responding as a non-cognitivist moral skeptic nihilist. We have freedoms and we have liberties. Freedoms are guaranteed in our Bill of Rights and they are fundamental to our existence. Liberties are granted by law. Politics being the interaction of people deciding what is best for the people. I really don't care about your Bill of Rights. Laws and legislation libertize our freedoms. We have freedom of speech, but it's regulated to an extent. We have freedom of assembly, but there are laws requiring permits. We have a right to bare arms, but there are gun control laws. We take these freedoms and move them to the political realm, where we control each other with them. These things are not really freedoms, they are not truly philosophical ideas of things that can be free because they deal with just humans. I really don't care about your laws and legislation. Knowledge is not political. Knowledge is free. Other animals learn. Plants learn. They share knowledge among each other. Learning and education is something that no matter how much humans may try to politically restrict or influence, it is impossible. Even the dystopian classics like *1984* and *Fahrenheit 451* maintain this virtue. It depends of your definition of political. If biological evolution is a part of knowledge, it's political for significant specter of US population. When we black-out one of our projects, we remove our ideal and the fundamental principle that we support the freedom of knowledge. What we do it move the idea into the human realm, where we care about things like regulations and how it relates to what is ours. None of it is ours. We release it under free license. That's too much for my state produce by rakija. To claim that we have a responsibility for what we write is contrary to the notion of fully submitting it for reuse and/or modification, unless what was written was inappropriate by community standards. When we take the *Atlas Shrugged* stance of taking our ball and going home to fight politics and regulation, we have done a disservice to both mankind and the idea of knowledge. We may have copyright, but we don't own a thing that we have done. It is not ours to take away. As a non-cognitivist moral skeptic nihilist, I agree with you. In the same sense as I don't see anything wrong in activating atomic bomb below your or my city. However, if we agree that there is a common interest between you and me, then we are both responsible for the consequences of what we are doing. Knowledge liberates people. In oppressive regimes (which is equal to the whole Earth; maybe except Iceland), liberated people cause troubles. And we are responsible for those troubles. When we black-out one of our projects in protest of politics, we are protesting business and money. Those are what drive our global political systems, and these are things that we eschew. SOPA and other such laws have to do with national attempts to regulate copyright on the internet. I'm still not clear, despite all the arguments that I have read, that this applies to websites that release content under free license and take due diligence to remove copyright violations, because we do not believe in issuing copyright for our intellectual property. I don't care about your business and money. When we use our websites for political protest, we are a level below our idea. Our idea is above politics. To put our idea into politics diminishes its power. We provide information for knowledge and education. A black-out causes awareness, not education. While politicians may be influenced by the media buzz about the black-outs, it is not because of people that the legislation gets put away. It's about the money. The legislation will return in a different form in the future. Shall we just continue to black-out? We lose our teeth and some dignity each time we do so. Only our ability to educate will change the future in the politics of knowledge. As mentioned above, our idea *is* politics. Keep knowledge free. All the time. As well as people are. BTW, sorry for seemingly short answers. However, your moral prejudices don't give me anything else as an option. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Russian Wikipedia goes on strike
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 12:58 AM, Keegan Peterzell keegan.w...@gmail.comwrote: Neither Anonymous, neither Arab Spring would happen without Wikipedia. I think you meant without the technology and concept that we can be connected as humans all the time. We can trace these happenings back to the telegraph and radio, or even the bold idea of the ink and paper. -- ~Keegan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Keegan ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Russian Wikipedia goes on strike
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 8:17 AM, Keegan Peterzell keegan.w...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 12:58 AM, Keegan Peterzell keegan.w...@gmail.comwrote: Neither Anonymous, neither Arab Spring would happen without Wikipedia. I think you meant without the technology and concept that we can be connected as humans all the time. We can trace these happenings back to the telegraph and radio, or even the bold idea of the ink and paper. No. The knowledge. The same one which produced French Revolution. Encyclopedia. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Russian Wikipedia goes on strike
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 1:16 AM, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks! I am responding as a non-cognitivist moral skeptic nihilist. CAUTION: HUMOR! Nice marmot. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7L2qP-xQ_7o -- ~Keegan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Keegan ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Russian Wikipedia goes on strike
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 8:21 AM, Keegan Peterzell keegan.w...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 1:16 AM, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks! I am responding as a non-cognitivist moral skeptic nihilist. CAUTION: HUMOR! Nice marmot. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7L2qP-xQ_7o Yes, it's a part of humor. But I *am* non-cognitivist moral skeptic nihilist :) ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Russian Wikipedia goes on strike
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 1:18 AM, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 8:17 AM, Keegan Peterzell keegan.w...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 12:58 AM, Keegan Peterzell keegan.w...@gmail.comwrote: Neither Anonymous, neither Arab Spring would happen without Wikipedia. I think you meant without the technology and concept that we can be connected as humans all the time. We can trace these happenings back to the telegraph and radio, or even the bold idea of the ink and paper. No. The knowledge. The same one which produced French Revolution. Encyclopedia. Right, that was ink and paper. That was words that were not taken away but given as education as to the wrongdoings of the French Empire. Providing knowledge, not taking it away. -- ~Keegan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Keegan ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Russian Wikipedia goes on strike
Neither Anonymous, neither Arab Spring would happen without Wikipedia. I think you meant without the technology and concept that we can be connected as humans all the time. We can trace these happenings back to the telegraph and radio, or even the bold idea of the ink and paper. No. The knowledge. The same one which produced French Revolution. Encyclopedia. +1 :) Przykuta ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Russian Wikipedia goes on strike
On 10/07/12 08:16, Milos Rancic wrote: On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 7:58 AM, Keegan Peterzellkeegan.w...@gmail.com wrote: Okay, I'll bite. This is just my opinion and based on SOPA in the United States and what our government represents. Thanks! I am responding as a non-cognitivist moral skeptic nihilist. I thought you're an egoist. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Russian Wikipedia goes on strike
On 9 July 2012 20:41, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote: In less than half an hour Russian Wikipedia will go on one-day strike against SOPA/PIPA-like law in Russia [1] (in Russian). Unless I am missing something key; whilst this is a crappy law, it is not much like SOPA/PIPA in that it doesn't seem to threaten the existence of Russian Wikipedia. Comparatively; when some ISPs in the UK blacklisted The Pirate Bay at the behest of the government we didn't black Wikipedia out over it. Party is on #wikipedia-ru@freenode Even in lieu of it being a valid action (and we know I am skeptical of us being too political anyway) this is disgusting to see. Cutting off access to free knowledge should be a sombre and severe affair; those doing so should appreciate, deeply, the impact of their actions. They should not be partying like school children who got access to dad's liquor cabinet. As with the pictures of the WMF celebrations around English Wikipedia blackout, I am sorely disappointed. Tom ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Russian Wikipedia goes on strike
On 10 July 2012 09:22, Thomas Morton morton.tho...@googlemail.com wrote: On 9 July 2012 20:41, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote: In less than half an hour Russian Wikipedia will go on one-day strike against SOPA/PIPA-like law in Russia [1] (in Russian). Unless I am missing something key; whilst this is a crappy law, it is not much like SOPA/PIPA in that it doesn't seem to threaten the existence of Russian Wikipedia. You're missing something key: the way it's written, even articles on chemistry would be blocked. - d. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Russian Wikipedia goes on strike
On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 09:22:12 +0100, Thomas Morton wrote: On 9 July 2012 20:41, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote: In less than half an hour Russian Wikipedia will go on one-day strike against SOPA/PIPA-like law in Russia [1] (in Russian). Unless I am missing something key; whilst this is a crappy law, it is not much like SOPA/PIPA in that it doesn't seem to threaten the existence of Russian Wikipedia. Comparatively; when some ISPs in the UK blacklisted The Pirate Bay at the behest of the government we didn't black Wikipedia out over it. Ok, let me may be provide a bit of a background. 1) The law is formally directed against child pornography, drug trafficking, hate between religions etc. The idea is that every website (whatever it means) where information violating the law has been discovered will get a one-day notice to remove the info, and if it fails to do so, the access to the whole website will be blocked by all providers legally operating in Russia. On paper, nothing in this law threats Wikipedia and sister projects. 2) There is no political freedom in Russia, and courts are not independent. Therefore many people are afraid that once the law is in force (tomorrow it must be voted in the second hearing, and the third hearing in September is typically automatic) that it may become an instrument for central and local authorities to shut down access to internet sites at will claiming they advertise something listed in the law. Russian Wikipedia is not the only organization which raised such objections; another is for instance the Presidential Council on Hyman Rights (the suggestions of this council are typically get ignored despite its affiliation with the president), or the National Broadcasters Associations. 3) It is widely expected that the protest is going to be completely ignored. Indeed, the blackout has been reported in media, with both the minister of telecommunications and the vice-speaker of parliament explaining that the law has no threat for Wikipedia, and will not be amended. 4) The discussion on Russian Wikipedia was initiated yesterday morning by Stanislav Kozlovsky, the executive director of wm.ru. (He never wrote anything in his wm.ru role, and I believe the chapter was not involved in any way). First nothing happened, but in the late evening there was the blackout suggestion coming. Eventually, around 10pm it was transferred into a RFC, which was closed at 11pm since the number of votes for the blackout was clearly exceeding the votes against the blackout. No attempt was made top analyze the arguments, it was just a hasty majority decision. From what I know, no consultations with external parties were held. In contrast to the en.wp blackout, the mobile version of ru.wp is available now. Cheers Yaroslav ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] The Signpost -- Volume 8, Issue 28 -- 09 July 2012
Special report: Reforming the education programs: lessons from Cairo http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2012-07-09/Special_report News and notes: Russian Wikipedia protest blackout; E3 team and new tools; Wikitravel proposal bogged down http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2012-07-09/News_and_notes WikiProject report: Summer sports series: WikiProject Football http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2012-07-09/WikiProject_report Featured content: Keeps on chuggin' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2012-07-09/Featured_content Arbitration report: Three cases, Carnildo desysopped http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2012-07-09/Arbitration_report Technology report: Optimism over LastModified and MoodBar, but change in clock time causes downtime http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2012-07-09/Technology_report Single page view http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Signpost/Single PDF version http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book:Wikipedia_Signpost/2012-07-09 http://identi.ca/wikisignpost / https://twitter.com/wikisignpost -- Wikipedia Signpost Staff http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost ___ Please note: all replies sent to this mailing list will be immediately directed to Wikimedia-l, the public mailing list of the Wikimedia community. For more information about Wikimedia-l: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ WikimediaAnnounce-l mailing list wikimediaannounc...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaannounce-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Russian Wikipedia goes on strike
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 3:30 AM, Nikola Smolenski smole...@eunet.rs wrote: I have to say, your comment reads like empty philosophizing. You are like a person who doesn't have children because he is worried about overpopulation - when it is exactly the people who are intelligent and responsible enough to realize the dangers of overpopulation who should have more children. If taking away freedoms for one day is necessary in order to prevent them from being taken for one year, it should be done. No. It is those willing to toss out the baby with the bathwater that do that by blacking out our projects in the name of philosophy and political action. That is the empty philosophy. They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~ Benjamin Franklin -- ~Keegan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Keegan ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Russian Wikipedia goes on strike
On 10/07/12 15:45, Keegan Peterzell wrote: They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~ Benjamin Franklin The blackout was exactly the opposite. A little temporary (one day) safety (all the content was still available at countless mirrors) was given up in order to obtain an essential liberty. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Declaring my candidacy
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 2:02 AM, Alice Wiegand me.ly...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 12:01 AM, Theo10011 de10...@gmail.com wrote: You would also have to accept that you are/will be part of the WMF board. You'd have access to less and in some case, more information, but not a lot besides what people choose to disclose. This interim time between the WMDE board and WMF board is transitory. So, I would only remind that you be patient for now, you will not be entitled to any more or less information than rest of the board, as much as all of us here are entitled to what the board has or will discuss. And I do recall when the calls were made last to ask what the board was discussing. Somehow the rest of the board seems to have subsisted on the available information. Oh, I didn't realize that we were talking about the Board. I don't think we were... Theo, I'm not sure what board you are talking about here :-) The WMF board is not involved in the WCA planning or governance discussions. But thanks to those who are involved who have moved this discussion to wikimedia-l. SJ ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Russian Wikipedia goes on strike
On 10 July 2012 15:29, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org wrote: SOPA didn't threaten the existence of Wikipedia, Geoff Brigham opined otherwise, IIRC. - d. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] New, lower traffic, announcements only email list for Wikimedia developers
Hi, [cc:ing wikimedia-l because this message is also for Wikimedia users.] I've been asked to weigh in on this topic, because this is going to be an area of focus for me over the coming year. I've been tasked with improving the 2-way communication between users developers, possibly using the wikitech-ambassadors list as a medium. A few people have already explained the scope of the different lists, but here's my understanding: * wikitech-l: A high-traffic, unapologetically technical, discussion list for developers talking to developers * wikitech-announce: A low-traffic, plain English, announce-only list for developers talking to Wikimedia users * wikitech-ambassadors: A (currently) low-traffic, mostly-announce list for developers talking to Wikimedia users * mediawiki-announce: A low-traffic, announce-only list for developers talking to (mostly 3rd-party) MediaWiki users * wikimediaannounce: A low-traffic, plain English, announce-only list for general Wikimedia usues. And the possible change would be for wikitech-ambassadors to become a medium-to-high-traffic, plain English, list for discussion between developers and Wikimedia users, to report issues, share ideas and provide feedback in unapologetically layman terms. The Ambassadors part also means that users who are on that list will have a role in disseminating information to their local communities, and reporting back issues possibly raised on local wikis. FYI, if you're at Wikimania this week, this 2-way communication channel between developers and users will be a main focus of the Transparency discussion with Sumana, Rob and myself on Saturday 14 at 10:30 in Room 310: https://wikimania2012.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions/Transparency_and_collaboration_in_Wikimedia_engineering I've also just noticed that there are two other talks related to this topic: * Oliver's Engaging the Community: What We've Tried and Where We're Going (Thursday July 12, 11:40, Room 310) https://wikimania2012.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions/Engaging_the_Community:_What_We%27ve_Tried_and_Where_We%27re_Going * Tilman and Max's Movement Broadcasting - 'Stop Spamming' vs. 'Nobody Told Me (Thursday, July 12, 14:00, Room 302) https://wikimania2012.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions/Movement_Broadcasting_-_%27Stop_Spamming%27_vs._%27Nobody_Told_Me%27 If you can't attend any of those sessions, but you want to discuss / rant / share ideas about (mis)communication between MediaWiki developers and Wikimedia users, please come to me at any time during the hackathon or the conference (If we don't already know each other, my photo is on https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Staff_and_contractors ) And if you're not at Wikimania, feel free to drop me an e-mail with your thoughts on the subject. -- Guillaume Paumier Technical Communications Manager — Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
[Wikimedia-l] Chapter Report from Wikimedia España (april-june 2012)
This is the chapter report of Wikimedia España for the months of April, May and June 2012. April - 30.03-01.04.2012: Participation at Wikimedia Conference in Berlin. - 12.04.2012: Talk about Wikipedia and Wikimedia at iParty Wikipedia y Wikimedia, todo lo que siempre quisiste preguntarhttp://iparty.aditel.org/content/wikipedia-y-wikimedia-todo-lo-que-siempre-quisiste-preguntar, in Universitat Jaume I of Castellón. - 13.04.2012: Workshop Wikipedia para GLAMs: Participación en Wikipedia desde bibliotecas, archivos y museoshttp://socialbiblio.wordpress.com/2012/04/13/wikipedia-para-glams-participacion-en-wikipedia-desde-bibliotecas-archivos-y-museos/ in SocialBiblio (on-line community) - xx.04.2012: Advising Fundación Telefónica about Wikimedia Commons images to be used in an exhibition. May - 01.05.2012: Our sites were moved to Free Knowledge Foundation Server, renewal of Wiki Loves Monuments contest domain and we bought two domains for WM-ES (which were previously owned by another person) - 02.05.2012: Photographic coverage of Isabel Pantoja's recital. Madrid - 08.05.2012: A Twitter acount for Spanish Wikipedia is created (@eswikipedia). Later shared with other members of Spanish-speaking Chapters and Spanish Wikipedia editors - 23-25.05.2012: Participation in WikiWomenCamp 2012, co-organised by Wikimedia Australia, Wikimedia Argentina, Wikimedia Deutschland and Wikimedia Portugal members, in Buenos Aires, Argentina. - 26.05.2012: Participation in Wikigénero, organised by Wikimedia Argentina, in Buenos Aires, Argentina - 29.05.2012: Creation of another open mailing list for Announcements [1] https://listas.wikimedia.org.es/mailman/listinfo/anuncios June - 1-3.06.2012: Participation in Wikimedia Iberocoop Conference 2012. Santiago de Chile. - 01.06.2012: Articles about Wiki Loves Monuments and Wikimediasphere published: Wiki Loves Monuments: the experience in Spain and reflections regarding the diffusion of cultural heritagehttp://digithum.uoc.edu/ojs/index.php/digithum/article/view/n14-rodriguez-gonzalez-sierra-navarro-saorin and Panorama of the Wikimediaspherehttp://digithum.uoc.edu/ojs/index.php/digithum/article/view/n14-gomez in Digithum nº 14http://digithum.uoc.edu/ojs/index.php/digithum/issue/view/n14, journal of Universitat Oberta de Catalunya. - 15.06.2012: Colaboration with Real Academia Nacional de Medicina who liberated text to create an article about the new Diccionario de términos médicos. - 16.06.2012: Meeting with Fundación ONCE and Technosite to kickstart collaborative project. Madrid. - 18.06.2012: Participation of two asociation members in *III Jornadas eMadrid sobre e-Learning*, Madrid [2]http://www.emadridnet.org/iii-jornadas-emadrid-sobre-e-learning - 25.06.2012: Agreement between Wikimedia España and Fundación ONCE. Prees release in Spanish in the blog of Wikimedia Españahttp://wikimedia-es.blogspot.com.es/2012/06/wikimedia-espana-y-la-fundacion-once.html - 27.06.2012: Change from CC-BY-SA-NC to CC-BY-SA of wiki project about gastronomy in Spanish. EncicloChefhttp://www.enciclochef.com/index.php/EncicloChef_-_Wiki_de_recetas_de_cocina_y_m%C3%A1s - 30.06.2012: Article about cultural heritage digital libraries and Wikipedia published: Analysis of links to digital libraries and archives of cultural heritage from Wikipedia pages in Spanish and Catalanhttp://www.ub.edu/bid/28/saorin2.htm in BiD nº 28, juny 2012 http://www.ub.edu/bid/bid28.php, Journal of Librarianship of Universitat de Barcelona. -- + Lucien ¡Participa en Wikimedia España!: http://www.wikimedia.org.es/ ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Declaring my candidacy
Le 10/07/2012 11:23, Samuel Klein a écrit : I don't think we were... Theo, I'm not sure what board you are talking about here :-) I'm baffled by the opacity of the administrative situation which makes it difficult even for high level, experienced and even specialized brains to manage to talk just ABOUT it. :-) ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Russian Wikipedia goes on strike
It looks like we won again. Communication Minister Nikolai Nikiforov was also negative about the current version of the bill, but was more relaxed about the possible outcomes. “I don’t support Wiki’s contention that it would be closed down. But this step is an important reaction by society, a sign that the legislation needs to be improved,” he tweeted on Tuesday morning. [1] [1] http://themoscownews.com/russia/20120710/189942195.html ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Russian Wikipedia goes on strike
On 11/07/12 00:32, David Gerard wrote: On 10 July 2012 15:29, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org wrote: SOPA didn't threaten the existence of Wikipedia, Geoff Brigham opined otherwise, IIRC. Yes, on the basis that Wikipedia arguably falls under the definition of an 'Internet search engine'. http://blog.wikimedia.org/2011/12/13/how-sopa-will-hurt-the-free-web-and-wikipedia/ The definition was: The term ‘Internet search engine’ means a service made available via the Internet that searches, crawls, categorizes, or indexes information or Web sites available elsewhere on the Internet and on the basis of a user query or selection that consists of terms, concepts, categories, questions, or other data returns to the user a means, such as a hyperlinked list of Uniform Resource Locators, of locating, viewing, or downloading such information or data available on the Internet relating to such query or selection. http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/112/hr3261/text It's hard to see how Wikipedia could fall under this definition, but even if it did, what would be the consequences? A provider of an Internet search engine shall take technically feasible and reasonable measures, as expeditiously as possible, but in any case within 5 days after being served with a copy of the order, or within such time as the court may order, designed to prevent the foreign infringing site that is subject to the order, or a portion of such site specified in the order, from being served as a direct hypertext link. Geoff argued that we would have to manually review millions of links in order to comply with such a court order. But the definition of an internet site that would be specified under such a court order is: [T]he collection of digital assets, including links, indexes, or pointers to digital assets, accessible through the Internet that are addressed relative to a common domain name or, if there is no domain name, a common Internet Protocol address. We already index external links by domain name or IP address for easy searching, and we have the ability to prevent further such links from being submitted, for the purposes of spam control. The compliance cost would be no worse than a typical [[WP:RSPAM]] report. Maybe SOPA was a serious threat to freedom of expression on the Internet, and worth fighting against, but it wasn't a threat to Wikipedia's existence. -- Tim Starling ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
