Re: [Wikimedia-l] next Wikidata office hours
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Lydia Pintscher wrote: > Just a quick reminder that the English office hour will be in a bit > less than 6 hours from now. Ok seems I am still jetlagged and can't count. It's of course in 7 hours. Sorry Cheers Lydia -- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher Community Communications for Wikidata Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Obentrautstr. 72 10963 Berlin www.wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Russian Wikipedia goes on strike
> On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Fred Bauder > wrote: >>> But that is not all. The most important issue is extremism. According >>> to >>> the bill, the materials, that are banned for distribution in Russia >>> should be included to the register of banned information on the ground >>> of >>> the court decision, banning the distribution of that information in >>> Russia. We already have such court decisions and a list of extremist >>> materials, distribution of which is prohibited in Russia. That list >>> contains some really nasty materials, as e.g. nazi propaganda, but >>> also >>> Islamic texts (including those of famous non-terrorist Islamic authors >>> e.g. Said Nursî), Saentologist, Jehovaâs witnesses , Falun Gong, >>> letters and materials of opposition in Russia, works of contemporary >>> art, >>> etc. >> >> "letters and materials of opposition in Russia" That is the issue. It's >> Russian McCarthyism. > > AFAIK, Huxley's Brave New World, as well, because it "promotes drug > usage". > There are limits. For example, I am aware of a technique for tattooing the whites of your eyes. I'm afraid I have self-censored with respect to that matter; there is enough evil nonsense already; idiots can put their tongues on frozen lamp posts... Fred ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Russian Wikipedia goes on strike
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Fred Bauder wrote: >> But that is not all. The most important issue is extremism. According to >> the bill, the materials, that are banned for distribution in Russia >> should be included to the register of banned information on the ground of >> the court decision, banning the distribution of that information in >> Russia. We already have such court decisions and a list of extremist >> materials, distribution of which is prohibited in Russia. That list >> contains some really nasty materials, as e.g. nazi propaganda, but also >> Islamic texts (including those of famous non-terrorist Islamic authors >> e.g. Said Nursî), Saentologist, Jehova’s witnesses , Falun Gong, >> letters and materials of opposition in Russia, works of contemporary art, >> etc. > > "letters and materials of opposition in Russia" That is the issue. It's > Russian McCarthyism. AFAIK, Huxley's Brave New World, as well, because it "promotes drug usage". ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] next Wikidata office hours
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 5:45 AM, Lydia Pintscher wrote: > Heya folks, > > I just wanted to let you know that the next Wikidata office hours will > be on soon. Denny and I will be around on IRC in #wikimedia-wikidata > to answer any question you might have and discuss. Logs will be > published afterwards. > > English: July 18 at 22:00 UTC > (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?hour=22&min=00&sec=0&day=18&month=07&year=2012) > German: July 23 at 16:30 UTC > (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?hour=16&min=30&sec=0&day=23&month=07&year=2012) Just a quick reminder that the English office hour will be in a bit less than 6 hours from now. Cheers Lydia -- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher Community Communications for Wikidata Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Obentrautstr. 72 10963 Berlin www.wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Russian Wikipedia goes on strike
> But that is not all. The most important issue is extremism. According to > the bill, the materials, that are banned for distribution in Russia > should be included to the register of banned information on the ground of > the court decision, banning the distribution of that information in > Russia. We already have such court decisions and a list of extremist > materials, distribution of which is prohibited in Russia. That list > contains some really nasty materials, as e.g. nazi propaganda, but also > Islamic texts (including those of famous non-terrorist Islamic authors > e.g. Said Nursî), Saentologist, Jehovaâs witnesses , Falun Gong, > letters and materials of opposition in Russia, works of contemporary art, > etc. "letters and materials of opposition in Russia" That is the issue. It's Russian McCarthyism. Fred ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
[Wikimedia-l] Russian Wikipedia goes on strike
Tim Starling wrote: > According to ru.wp Arbcom member DR, the danger to Wikipedia was > overstated, and the text of the proposed law was misrepresented. I think that the interpretation to the bill given by DR is incorrect. In fact the proposed bill was not only about child pornography and extremism, but also about drugs and, about “information, prompting children to commit actions, making threat to their life and health”. That was a very loose clause, that could ban virtually anything. After the blackout this clause was removed from the bill and it is a clear achievement of the strike. On the other hand the final version of the bill contains another clause, that is even more hazardous to us. It is about “information of methods of producing and use of narcotic substances, … of methods and places of cultivation of narcotic plants”. We do have information of drug synthesis on Wikipedia, ways of its use (e.g. marijuana) and we do have thorough instructions of marijuana cultivation on wikibooks. That is why our achievements are ambiguous. On the one hand we have a removal of a loose clause about information harmful to children, but on the otherwe now have another clause that is even more dangerous. That is why we are still trying to do what we can via our contacts within the authorities to revise the passed bill. But that is not all. The most important issue is extremism. According to the bill, the materials, that are banned for distribution in Russia should be included to the register of banned information on the ground of the court decision, banning the distribution of that information in Russia. We already have such court decisions and a list of extremist materials, distribution of which is prohibited in Russia. That list contains some really nasty materials, as e.g. nazi propaganda, but also Islamic texts (including those of famous non-terrorist Islamic authors e.g. Said Nursî), Saentologist, Jehova’s witnesses , Falun Gong, letters and materials of opposition in Russia, works of contemporary art, etc. We *do have* banned extremist materials in Wikipedia. E.g. this image: http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Файл:Александр_Савко_Путешествия_Микки_Мауса_по_истории искусства.jpeg is considered extremist and is banned for distribution in Russia. (Hopefully it was uploaded two years before it was regulated as banned by the court). This letter in wikisource is also considered extremist: http://ru.wikisource.org/wiki/Всем,_кто_сочувствует_жертвам_бесланского_теракта! This is enough for banning the IPs of Wikimedia projects in Russia. And I am really afraid of this. I guess DR is aware of discussion on this list, but anyway I will inform him of it. Maybe he has something to add. > According to Levg in his Arbcom application, again via Google > Translate, "It should be noted that there are no objective reasons for > such a 'sprint survey' did not exist, to discuss the bill on second > reading has been known since at least last Friday." That is our fault that we could not manage to get the information in time. The first hearing was on Friday, but the community and myself got to know about the problem only on Monday, 9th. What for me personally I haven’t read the news on the weekend (yes, it is bad, that I relaxed on the weekend and haven’t read the news), and I failed to get to know about the problem in time. I guess it is also true for others. If we start to organize on Friday, the result would be better. It is a fault, but anyway it was not a deliberate fault, as nobody has informed the community earlier. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
[Wikimedia-l] Next generation wiki by Ward Cunningham: After "edit" comes "fork"
Ward Cunningham, the inventor of wiki, has implemented "Smallest Federated Wiki". The most important change is that it is not only easy to edit the content, also forking is considered a natural part of the workflow. Besides, I really like the user interface: Videos: http://wardcunningham.github.com/ The code: https://github.com/WardCunningham/Smallest-Federated-Wiki Not very difficult to install if your Ruby packaging works. //Marcin saper@plwiki ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
