Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: WMF Policy and Political Affiliations Guideline

2012-08-02 Thread Mark
On 8/2/12 7:51 AM, Samuel Klein wrote: And I would love to see the foundation practice delegating some of this bureaucracy and responsibility to non-staff groups. We have no shortage of energy, talent, and experience there in the community. In addition, there's a fairly well-organized set of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: WMF Policy and Political Affiliations Guideline

2012-08-02 Thread MZMcBride
David Gerard wrote: On 2 August 2012 05:13, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: This appears to be an unprecedented power-grab by the office of the General Counsel. Um ... that's a bizarre perception. Is it? I read through the page at Meta-Wiki and couldn't help but notice that every

[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia engineering July 2012 report

2012-08-02 Thread Guillaume Paumier
Hi, The report covering Wikimedia engineering activities in July 2012 is now available. Wiki version: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_engineering_report/2012/July Blog version: https://blog.wikimedia.org/2012/08/02/engineering-july-2012-report/ -- Guillaume Paumier Technical

[Wikimedia-l] Washington diary

2012-08-02 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Hello, Please allow me to send a link to my 'Washington diary' about Wikimania in Washington; it is mostly about the proceedings of the Wikimedia Chapters Association. Kind regards Ziko http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Ziko/Washington_diary ___

Re: [Wikimedia-l] IRC office hours with the Wikimedia Fellows

2012-08-02 Thread Tanvir Rahman
Reminder: this office hours begin in 30 minutes. :-) Join #wikimedia-office from your IRC client or Webchat: http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#wikimedia-office -- Forwarded message -- From: Siko Bouterse sboute...@wikimedia.org Date: Jul 31, 2012 3:36 AM Subject:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] IRC office hours with the Wikimedia Fellows

2012-08-02 Thread Tanvir Rahman
For those who missed our first office hour, logs are now available at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours/Office_hours_2012-08-02 Hope to see you all next time. Cheerio, Tanvir -- Tanvir Rahman Community Fellow Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: WMF Policy and Political Affiliations Guideline

2012-08-02 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 9:45 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 2 August 2012 05:13, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: This appears to be an unprecedented power-grab by the office of the General Counsel. Um ... that's a bizarre perception. Well, just look at the number of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF Policy and Political Affiliations Guideline

2012-08-02 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 12:52 AM, Brandon Harris bhar...@wikimedia.orgwrote: This is inserting a conspiracy theory where one does not exist. The English Wikipedia community voted on the blackout and directed it into existence, not the Foundation. We merely facilitated.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF Policy and Political Affiliations Guideline

2012-08-02 Thread FT2
There's a fallacy going on here - ie a term with two subtly different meanings. The community - who are the ones ultimately making the gift do so altruistically, in the sense of not seeking *compensation*, but that's not the same as not expecting *consideration*. We do expect consideration.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: WMF Policy and Political Affiliations Guideline

2012-08-02 Thread Birgitte_sb
Seriously stop hijacking this thread. Let MZMcBride have a chance at some discussion on his question. This below is just not cool. Have some respect for MZMcBride. He didn't write out his thoughts or concerns with idea that the first reply would turn it all into snip fodder. That seems beyond

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF Policy and Political Affiliations Guideline

2012-08-02 Thread Risker
On 2 August 2012 21:07, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Brandon Harris wrote: On Aug 2, 2012, at 5:45 PM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 12:11 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: What type of action was the SOPA blackout in January? You mean,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF Policy and Political Affiliations Guideline

2012-08-02 Thread Samuel Klein
On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 11:59 PM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: The line between what constitutes a community initiative and what's considered a request from an outside group still isn't clear to me Ah, interesting point. My read of this was that the guideline would consider an