Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia redefined -- typography and UX and such

2012-08-17 Thread Denny Vrandečić
rant If WMF had a Steve Jobs on staff, everyone would hate him for making decisions without properly consulting the community, for destroying the community, for reinventing Wikimedia again, for making unpopular decisions, for making decisions behind close doors, for being an egomaniac, etc.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia redefined -- typography and UX and such

2012-08-17 Thread Magnus Manske
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Denny Vrandečić denny.vrande...@wikimedia.de wrote: rant If WMF had a Steve Jobs on staff, everyone would hate him for making decisions without properly consulting the community, for destroying the community, for reinventing Wikimedia again, for making

[Wikimedia-l] Articles for Creation broken

2012-08-17 Thread Steven Zhang
So, I had a look at articles for creation today, and there was nearly 1,000 pending article submissions. Articles for creation has changed a lot since 2008 - it was of a similar structure to XFD - all submissions for a particular day were on one page, and people could come along and approve or

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Articles for Creation broken

2012-08-17 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
For those who don't know what Articles for Creation is: It's a page in the English Wikipedia. Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:AFC -- Amir 2012/8/17 Steven Zhang cro0...@gmail.com: So, I had a look at articles for creation today, and there was nearly 1,000 pending article

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia redefined -- typography and UX and such

2012-08-17 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Indeed Denny, making those changes is very difficult, and we are facing a number of these challenges. You know what? Given the importance of a good user interface (and other things), I could even imagine that the WMFbuilds up a new Wikipedia site and watches where the majority of people want to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia redefined -- typography and UX and such

2012-08-17 Thread Strainu
Trying to respond to your wiki is not... statement from this awful gmail mobile website... While technically correct, from the user's pov, which is the one the websites's creators have, wiki is often used as a synonim for wikipedia. I hear more often „did you search on wiki?” than „did you search

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia redefined -- typography and UX and such

2012-08-17 Thread Nathan
No one will argue these days that the WMF is short of money, so this is a good opportunity for it to deploy some of that funding for a real impact. The main page on the English Wikipedia is an ideal starting point for a conscious effort at design evolution throughout Wikimedia. The Foundation

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia redefined -- typography and UX and such

2012-08-17 Thread Cristian Consonni
2012/8/17 Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com: On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Denny Vrandečić denny.vrande...@wikimedia.de wrote: Yes, it would be nice if it was easier to change Wikipedia. http://toolserver.org/~magnus/redefined/?page=Pyramid Oh my goodness, Magnus. Is it that easy

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia redefined -- typography and UX and such

2012-08-17 Thread Delirium
On 8/17/12 12:02 PM, Magnus Manske wrote: http://toolserver.org/~magnus/redefined/?page=Pyramid This is quite nice, especially on a larger screen! Our current layout, which uses the full browser width for text, makes articles hard to read and cluttered-looking on larger screens. The text

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia redefined -- typography and UX and such

2012-08-17 Thread Magnus Manske
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Delirium delir...@hackish.org wrote: On 8/17/12 12:02 PM, Magnus Manske wrote: http://toolserver.org/~magnus/redefined/?page=Pyramid This is quite nice, especially on a larger screen! Our current layout, which uses the full browser width for text, makes

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia redefined -- typography and UX and such

2012-08-17 Thread Risker
On 17 August 2012 10:47, Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Delirium delir...@hackish.org wrote: On 8/17/12 12:02 PM, Magnus Manske wrote: http://toolserver.org/~magnus/redefined/?page=Pyramid This is quite nice, especially on a larger

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia redefined -- typography and UX and such

2012-08-17 Thread Cristian Consonni
2012/8/17 Risker risker...@gmail.com: It looks pretty clean and less cluttered. It also draws attention to some of our internal issues, such as massive listing of references at the bottom of the page, and all those templates linking groups of articles together; between these two, they're

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia redefined -- typography and UX and such

2012-08-17 Thread Magnus Manske
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 4:50 PM, Cristian Consonni kikkocrist...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/8/17 Risker risker...@gmail.com: It looks pretty clean and less cluttered. It also draws attention to some of our internal issues, such as massive listing of references at the bottom of the page, and all

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia redefined -- typography and UX and such

2012-08-17 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Yes, I would like to see the skin in my Preferences. Where is a wiki page for comment? :-) Ziko 2012/8/17 Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com: On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 4:50 PM, Cristian Consonni kikkocrist...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/8/17 Risker risker...@gmail.com: It looks pretty clean

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia redefined -- typography and UX and such

2012-08-17 Thread Cristian Consonni
2012/8/17 Ziko van Dijk vand...@wmnederland.nl: Yes, I would like to see the skin in my Preferences. Where is a wiki page for comment? :-) See the META link in the upper-right corner i.e.: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_redefined Cristian

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia redefined -- typography and UX and such

2012-08-17 Thread Magnus Manske
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 6:43 PM, Cristian Consonni kikkocrist...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/8/17 Ziko van Dijk vand...@wmnederland.nl: Yes, I would like to see the skin in my Preferences. Where is a wiki page for comment? :-) See the META link in the upper-right corner i.e.:

[Wikimedia-l] Office hours with Sue Gardner tomorrow

2012-08-17 Thread Steven Walling
Hi everyone, We realize this is short notice, but Sue Gardner (the Foundation's Executive Director) is doing an IRC office hours tomorrow, Saturday August 18, at 17:30:00 UTC. It's been some time since Sue did one, so we're leaving the topic pretty open. As usual, the particulars are on Meta at:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia redefined -- typography and UX and such

2012-08-17 Thread WereSpielChequers
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