[Wikimedia-l] Even Google gets it wrong (filtering Bisexual from instant results and autocomplete)

2012-08-20 Thread Kim Bruning
Google accidentally blocks Bisexual from Instant Search and Autocomplete. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfbO4iFaJOw As you say, we're strong LGBT supporters. Sometimes perfectly good search terms can trip up our algorithms that decide whether to show instant results. This can happen

[Wikimedia-l] Side discussion: Volunteer time is precious Re: Articles for Creation broken

2012-08-20 Thread Kim Bruning
On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 11:48:29AM +0100, Andreas Kolbe wrote: On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 11:07 AM, Katie Chan k...@ktchan.info wrote: On 19/08/2012 11:04, Andreas Kolbe wrote: I currently see 370 submissions pending. Does this mean that someone has processed 700 articles since the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [WikiEN-l] Stocking personal details

2012-08-20 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
charles andrès, 08/20/2012 12:27 PM: WTF? What the link between WMF finances and the topic? And by the way are you talking about the movement finances or the foundation finances, because it's not the same thing. Besides, we're supposed to have higher privacy standards than, say, Google and

[Wikimedia-l] Copyright on Xrays

2012-08-20 Thread James Heilman
A question about copyright, who owns the copyright on Xrays and are they even copyrightable? I have uploaded a few of them and no one seems to know the answer. I guess the options would be: 1) They are in the public domain https://open.umich.edu/wiki/Casebook#Radiograph_.28X-Ray.29 and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Legality under French law of hosting personal details such as race and sexuality in Wikipedia

2012-08-20 Thread Anthony
Well, it's good to see that France is safe from genocidal maniacs who can't speak a language other than French, then. On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 8:27 PM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: I've been told (and have verified) that the French Wikipedia indeed does without categories to mark

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright on Xrays

2012-08-20 Thread Thomas Morton
2) The X ray tech who took the image 3) The person / institution who paid to have the image taken a) The HMO or patient if in the USA b) The government if in many parts of the world 4) The doctor who ordered the image 5) The doctor who read the image 6) The hospital / shareholders of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright on Xrays

2012-08-20 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 20 August 2012 12:08, James Heilman jmh...@gmail.com wrote: A question about copyright, who owns the copyright on Xrays and are they even copyrightable? I have uploaded a few of them and no one seems to know the answer. I guess the options would be: Why is it any different to any other work

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright on Xrays

2012-08-20 Thread David Gerard
I'm sure that collectively we can bloviate with the best of 'em on the topic - but do we have any case law whatsoever anywhere on the topic that might give real-world pointers? - d. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright on Xrays

2012-08-20 Thread Anthony
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 7:47 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: I'm sure that collectively we can bloviate with the best of 'em on the topic - but do we have any case law whatsoever anywhere on the topic that might give real-world pointers? It's a question of fact, not a question of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright on Xrays

2012-08-20 Thread David Gerard
On 20 August 2012 12:50, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote: On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 7:47 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: I'm sure that collectively we can bloviate with the best of 'em on the topic - but do we have any case law whatsoever anywhere on the topic that might give

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright on Xrays

2012-08-20 Thread Tomasz Ganicz
2012/8/20 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com: On 20 August 2012 12:50, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote: On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 7:47 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: I'm sure that collectively we can bloviate with the best of 'em on the topic - but do we have any case law whatsoever

[Wikimedia-l] Copyright on Xrays

2012-08-20 Thread James Heilman
@ Tomasz: Per a) if the picture is taken automatically by machine in routine way (in case of X-ray, NMR and some other techinques this is usually atomatic and routine) - they are not copyrightable, as this is not any creative work. This is my understanding. X rays are taken in the exact same way

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright on Xrays

2012-08-20 Thread Max Harmony
2012/8/20 Anthony wikim...@inbox.org: Under US law (I know very little about the law of other countries): Unless the patient somehow contributed creatively to the image (broke his bones in a certain creative pattern), it's certainly not the HMO or patient. If the X-ray tech is an employee,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright on Xrays

2012-08-20 Thread Tomasz Ganicz
2012/8/20 Max Harmony m...@sdf.lonestar.org: 2012/8/20 Anthony wikim...@inbox.org: Under US law (I know very little about the law of other countries): Unless the patient somehow contributed creatively to the image (broke his bones in a certain creative pattern), it's certainly not the HMO or

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright on Xrays

2012-08-20 Thread Anthony
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 8:03 AM, James Heilman jmh...@gmail.com wrote: @ Tomasz: Per a) if the picture is taken automatically by machine in routine way (in case of X-ray, NMR and some other techinques this is usually atomatic and routine) - they are not copyrightable, as this is not any

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright on Xrays

2012-08-20 Thread Cynthia Ashley-Nelson
In the US, the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA) governs release of medical information, which includes any medium, including spoken, written, or electronically stored. This includes videos, photographs, and x-rays. The only person legally entitled to release this

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright on Xrays

2012-08-20 Thread Nathan
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 1:27 PM, Cynthia Ashley-Nelson cindam...@gmail.comwrote: In the US, the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA) governs release of medical information, which includes any medium, including spoken, written, or electronically stored. This

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright on Xrays

2012-08-20 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 20 August 2012 18:27, Cynthia Ashley-Nelson cindam...@gmail.com wrote: In the US, the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA) governs release of medical information, which includes any medium, including spoken, written, or electronically stored. This includes

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright on Xrays

2012-08-20 Thread Sage Ross
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 3:17 PM, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote: On 20 August 2012 12:52, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 20 August 2012 12:50, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote: On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 7:47 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: I'm sure that collectively we can

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright on Xrays

2012-08-20 Thread Nathan
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Sage Ross ragesoss+wikipe...@gmail.comwrote: I'd say, whatever the copyright status, she'd risk her job by distributing something like X-rays without going through the IRB system. And if she got IRB permission, asserting PD status or copyleft status or

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright on Xrays

2012-08-20 Thread Sage Ross
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 4:04 PM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: It's relevant for Wikipedia, at least. I don't think the projects take a view on whether someone is risking their job or following institutional policies. Right. But it's worth mentioning... especially if the projects did take

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright on Xrays

2012-08-20 Thread Etienne Beaule
My opinion on X-rays. If done in private property, it is subject to personality rights, and if in a public area, then it can be copyrighted by the the person who took the X-ray. Ebe123 On 2012-08-20 5:17 PM, Sage Ross ragesoss+wikipe...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 4:04 PM,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright on Xrays

2012-08-20 Thread Michael Peel
OK, so the moderation of this mailing list appears to be broken (surely such emails should at least be held for approval by a moderator?). But please see my previous email (which I sent after hitting the 'reply' button)… Thanks, Mike On 20 Aug 2012, at 21:19,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright on Xrays

2012-08-20 Thread James Heilman
The WMF legal team has said they would provide an opinion on this question some time next week. The law is ambiguous and I guess the real question is how much is the foundation willing to put their neck out. -- James Heilman MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian The Wikipedia Open Textbook of Medicine

[Wikimedia-l] X-rays

2012-08-20 Thread Klaus Graf
In Germany the person who makes the x-ray is the owner of the right (Leistungsschutzrecht according § 72 Copyright Act) even the work is made for hire. The discussion is full of confusion of privacy rights and copyright. The distribution of the x-rays may be restricted by the patient's rights but

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright on Xrays

2012-08-20 Thread Ray Saintonge
On 08/20/12 12:17 PM, geni wrote: On 20 August 2012 12:52, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 20 August 2012 12:50, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote: On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 7:47 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: I'm sure that collectively we can bloviate with the best of 'em

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright on Xrays

2012-08-20 Thread Ray Saintonge
On 08/20/12 2:01 PM, Michael Peel wrote: OK, so the moderation of this mailing list appears to be broken (surely such emails should at least be held for approval by a moderator?). But please see my previous email (which I sent after hitting the 'reply' button)… Thanks, Mike It seems like a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright on Xrays

2012-08-20 Thread George Herbert
Was this long thread launched by an actual on-wiki (or off-wiki) Wikipedia or other WMF project issue with medical imaging images? ... Pardon if it would be obvious should I actually check AN or some such, but I've been busy all weekend and today. -george On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 5:39 PM, Ray

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright on Xrays

2012-08-20 Thread Ray Saintonge
On 08/20/12 10:27 AM, Cynthia Ashley-Nelson wrote: In the US, the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA) governs release of medical information, which includes any medium, including spoken, written, or electronically stored. This includes videos, photographs, and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright on Xrays

2012-08-20 Thread Matthew Bowker
Hi, all. I believe Mike was commenting on the fact that his message was bounced back (because of an email funky) and not the topic itself. In fact, I've been caught by that exact same filter myself. Sorry if I've read your message wrong. Matthew Bowker User:Matthewrbowker On Aug 20, 2012,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fund-raising goal questions

2012-08-20 Thread James Alexander
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 8:44 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: P.S. I happened to notice at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising that the Chapter Fundraising Agreement is not public (looks like it's hosted on internal.wikimedia.org). Do you know who I'd talk to about why this is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fund-raising goal questions

2012-08-20 Thread Philippe Beaudette
Ahem: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/2012-13_Fundraising_Agreement_%28Master%29 ___ Philippe Beaudette Director, Community Advocacy Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. 415-839-6885, x 6643 phili...@wikimedia.org On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 8:44 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fund-raising goal questions

2012-08-20 Thread MZMcBride
James Alexander wrote: On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 8:44 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: P.S. I happened to notice at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising that the Chapter Fundraising Agreement is not public (looks like it's hosted on internal.wikimedia.org). Do you know who I'd talk