Re: [Wikimedia-l] (semi-OT) Open access catastrophic for Elsevier

2012-09-25 Thread Kat Walsh
On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 6:31 PM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: On 24 September 2012 21:20, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen cimonav...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 3:33 AM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote: It's funny, most organizations point to our community as am example of how

Re: [Wikimedia-l] (semi-OT) Open access catastrophic for Elsevier

2012-09-25 Thread Richard Symonds
To be fair, organising academics is probably quite like herding cats. I can see it being expensive (but not quite as expensive as currently!) I wonder: would it be possible to make it so that in order to publish a paper, a person has to review two, three, four others as part of their payment? Or

Re: [Wikimedia-l] (semi-OT) Open access catastrophic for Elsevier

2012-09-25 Thread David Gerard
On 25 September 2012 16:24, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: To be fair, organising academics is probably quite like herding cats. I can see it being expensive (but not quite as expensive as currently!) I wonder: would it be possible to make it so that in order to

[Wikimedia-l] Clean IT Project

2012-09-25 Thread Kim Bruning
Clean IT project http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120921/03581820457/eu-officials-propose-internet-cops-patrol-no-anonymity-no-obscure-languages-because-terrorism.shtml As usual for Scaremongering Online Headlines, this is claiming that they'd propose banning sites in entire

[Wikimedia-l] CleanIT; as usual, the most useful and comprehensively multifaceted examination is on Slashdot.

2012-09-25 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
http://slashdot.org/story/12/09/25/004252/plans-for-widespread-monitoring-of-communication-in-europe-revealed It isn't yet clear if this proposal is intended as a stalking horse for a later, more sneakily composed scheme, or whether they really have been smoking crack behind closed doors in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] FUDChilling EffectsFiltersOutlawing

2012-09-25 Thread ENWP Pine
Some of what that article describes is absurd and would run counter to principles that I think Europe generally supports. I think most of us would agree that the internet can be used for dangerous and fraudulent purposes and that governments have a role in protecting the public from genuine

Re: [Wikimedia-l] (semi-OT) Open access catastrophic for Elsevier

2012-09-25 Thread Mark
On 9/25/12 12:32 AM, George Herbert wrote: On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Richard Farmbrough rich...@farmbrough.co.uk wrote: On 24/09/2012 03:49, Risker wrote: the costs of peer review I have academics complaining to me that they don't get paid for peer review, so I'm not sure what these

Re: [Wikimedia-l] (semi-OT) Open access catastrophic for Elsevier

2012-09-25 Thread George Herbert
On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Mark delir...@hackish.org wrote: On 9/25/12 12:32 AM, George Herbert wrote: On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Richard Farmbrough rich...@farmbrough.co.uk wrote: On 24/09/2012 03:49, Risker wrote: the costs of peer review I have academics complaining to me

[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Re: FUDChilling EffectsFiltersOutlawing

2012-09-25 Thread Deryck Chan
-- Forwarded message -- From: Deryck Chan deryckc...@gmail.com Date: Sep 25, 2012 11:59 PM Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] FUDChilling EffectsFiltersOutlawing To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org This is old news. This is what we've been protesting against all

[Wikimedia-l] Page Curation launch on English Wikipedia

2012-09-25 Thread Fabrice Florin
Hi folks, I am happy to announce that the Wikimedia Foundation has just launched Page Curation, a new suite of tools for reviewing articles on Wikipedia. Current page patrol tools like Special:NewPages and Twinkle can be hard to use quickly and accurately, and have led to frustration for some