Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update
Hoi, This has been discussed in the language committee. In the committee we all agreed that the existing languages for Wikivoyage should start without any interference of us and that new languages should start through the normal process because from now they are just like any other new project in a language. Thanks, Gerard On 16 October 2012 22:56, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Strainu strain...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Erik, What languages are you launching with and what is the procedure for launching new languages? We're basing the initial set on the languages which are ready for import from Wikivoyage. At this point, it looks like that would be German, Italian, English, French, Dutch and Swedish. I think it's up to the language committee and the larger Wikimedia community to determine the process for new languages. My understanding is that per https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Language_proposal_policy new languages would need to use the incubator at first to demonstrate viability. Erik -- Erik Möller VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation Support Free Knowledge: https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update
2012/10/17 Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com: This has been discussed in the language committee. In the committee we all agreed that the existing languages for Wikivoyage should start without any interference of us and that new languages should start through the normal process because from now they are just like any other new project in a language. But how about languages already existing in Wikitravel? They already have the content, if not the community. Strainu ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update
On 17 October 2012 09:16, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.ilwrote: 2012/10/17 Strainu strain...@gmail.com: 2012/10/17 Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com: This has been discussed in the language committee. In the committee we all agreed that the existing languages for Wikivoyage should start without any interference of us and that new languages should start through the normal process because from now they are just like any other new project in a language. But how about languages already existing in Wikitravel? They already have the content, if not the community. As Gerard said, the existing languages for Wikivoyage should start without any interference. Amir, I think Strainu is referring to languages that exist on Wikitravel but not Wikivoyage. Deryck ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update
2012/10/17 Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il: 2012/10/17 Strainu strain...@gmail.com: 2012/10/17 Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com: This has been discussed in the language committee. In the committee we all agreed that the existing languages for Wikivoyage should start without any interference of us and that new languages should start through the normal process because from now they are just like any other new project in a language. But how about languages already existing in Wikitravel? They already have the content, if not the community. As Gerard said, the existing languages for Wikivoyage should start without any interference. But the question is about exisitng Wikitravel languages. For example there is hebrew Wikitravel but there is no hebrew Wikivoyage. http://wikitravel.org/he/%D7%A2%D7%9E%D7%95%D7%93_%D7%A8%D7%90%D7%A9%D7%99 Actually the hebrew version of wikitravel has only 102 articiles but for example Polish: http://wikitravel.org/pl/Strona_g%C5%82%C3%B3wna has 2585, although actually is in fact half-dead and going through the incubator-language committee process will rather discourage the tiny community of Polish wikitravel to switch to vikivoyage, so the effect will be that Polish wikivoage won't appear in predictable future. I guess the same will be with other mid-size wikitravel language versions of which there are a couple around... Hope I am wrong anyway :-) -- Tomek Polimerek Ganicz http://pl.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Polimerek http://www.ganicz.pl/poli/ http://www.cbmm.lodz.pl/work.php?id=29title=tomasz-ganicz ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update
On Wed, 17 Oct 2012 09:44:49 +0200, Gerard Meijssen wrote: Hoi, This has been discussed in the language committee. In the committee we all agreed that the existing languages for Wikivoyage should start without any interference of us and that new languages should start through the normal process because from now they are just like any other new project in a language. Thanks, Gerard There is Russian version of Wikitravel but not of (old) Wikivoyage. Should they still go to the incubator? Cheers Yaroslav ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update
2012/10/17 Deryck Chan deryckc...@wikimedia.hk: I think Strainu is referring to languages that exist on Wikitravel but not Wikivoyage. Probably a practical question: As Wikitravel closed the API in August, there is probably no more data that Wikivoyage could rescue from the project than now is available in Wikivoyage. If a language community needs a fresh start in Wikivoyage it would have to begin from the very beginning. In this case it would be best to go through Incubator. Regards, Jürgen. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update
2012/10/17 Deryck Chan deryckc...@wikimedia.hk: On 17 October 2012 09:16, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.ilwrote: 2012/10/17 Strainu strain...@gmail.com: 2012/10/17 Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com: This has been discussed in the language committee. In the committee we all agreed that the existing languages for Wikivoyage should start without any interference of us and that new languages should start through the normal process because from now they are just like any other new project in a language. But how about languages already existing in Wikitravel? They already have the content, if not the community. As Gerard said, the existing languages for Wikivoyage should start without any interference. Amir, I think Strainu is referring to languages that exist on Wikitravel but not Wikivoyage. /me slaps self. Well, this confusion will probably happen a lot with this project. -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update
2012/10/17 Juergen Fenn schneeschme...@googlemail.com: 2012/10/17 Deryck Chan deryckc...@wikimedia.hk: I think Strainu is referring to languages that exist on Wikitravel but not Wikivoyage. Probably a practical question: As Wikitravel closed the API in August, there is probably no more data that Wikivoyage could rescue from the project than now is available in Wikivoyage. If a language community needs a fresh start in Wikivoyage it would have to begin from the very beginning. In this case it would be best to go through Incubator. So, the predictable effect will be that mid-size wikitravel language versions which did not moved to wikivoyage before August will rather stay on Wikitravel. There will be hard to find volunteers in these langauges ready to go through painful and time consuming process of incubator as there is already working wiki that anyone can join without any obstacles... -- Tomek Polimerek Ganicz http://pl.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Polimerek http://www.ganicz.pl/poli/ http://www.cbmm.lodz.pl/work.php?id=29title=tomasz-ganicz ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update
2012/10/17 Tomasz Ganicz polime...@gmail.com: Probably a practical question: As Wikitravel closed the API in August, there is probably no more data that Wikivoyage could rescue from the project than now is available in Wikivoyage. If a language community needs a fresh start in Wikivoyage it would have to begin from the very beginning. In this case it would be best to go through Incubator. So, the predictable effect will be that mid-size wikitravel language versions which did not moved to wikivoyage before August will rather stay on Wikitravel. There will be hard to find volunteers in these langauges ready to go through painful and time consuming process of incubator as there is already working wiki that anyone can join without any obstacles... Maybe, maybe not. First of all, Wikitravel is to blame because they hinder free content from being used according to its license. But perhaps it would be possible to migrate language versions even though to Incubator and then to new Wikivoyage proper. Regards, Jürgen. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update
2012/10/17 Juergen Fenn schneeschme...@googlemail.com: 2012/10/17 Deryck Chan deryckc...@wikimedia.hk: I think Strainu is referring to languages that exist on Wikitravel but not Wikivoyage. Probably a practical question: As Wikitravel closed the API in August, there is probably no more data that Wikivoyage could rescue from the project than now is available in Wikivoyage. If a language community needs a fresh start in Wikivoyage it would have to begin from the very beginning. In this case it would be best to go through Incubator. That's not precisely true. With enough determination, the content can be extracted from Wikitravel, even now. Hell, even copy-paste would work to some extent. But I remember that the archive team said they had a dump from August 2011 for all the Wikitravel languages and private persons might have more recent dumps. Can't those be used? 2012/10/17 Tomasz Ganicz polime...@gmail.com: So, the predictable effect will be that mid-size wikitravel language versions which did not moved to wikivoyage before August will rather stay on Wikitravel. There will be hard to find volunteers in these langauges ready to go through painful and time consuming process of incubator as there is already working wiki that anyone can join without any obstacles... I don't think this is necessarily true, even if it is an important risk and one of the reasons I've asked the questions originally. For instance, the Romanian Wikitravel was virtually dead, but some people from ro.wp expressed interest in contributing to the new site if it has a Romanian version. It's correct that the dumps of all languages from August 2012 are available at Wikivoyage saved as XML files. But these files could not be used to publish them immediately because they contain a lot of spam which must be removed by the community before. But the communities are missing. In some cases it makes sense to think about establishing a language branch from scratch. See also the interest list at http://www.wikivoyage.org/general/Interest_in_starting_a_new_language_version at least five authors and admins should show their interest in helping to migrate the wikis. Roland ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update
2012/10/17 Roland Unger roland.un...@soziologie.uni-halle.de: 2012/10/17 Juergen Fenn schneeschme...@googlemail.com: 2012/10/17 Deryck Chan deryckc...@wikimedia.hk: I think Strainu is referring to languages that exist on Wikitravel but not Wikivoyage. Probably a practical question: As Wikitravel closed the API in August, there is probably no more data that Wikivoyage could rescue from the project than now is available in Wikivoyage. If a language community needs a fresh start in Wikivoyage it would have to begin from the very beginning. In this case it would be best to go through Incubator. That's not precisely true. With enough determination, the content can be extracted from Wikitravel, even now. Hell, even copy-paste would work to some extent. But I remember that the archive team said they had a dump from August 2011 for all the Wikitravel languages and private persons might have more recent dumps. Can't those be used? 2012/10/17 Tomasz Ganicz polime...@gmail.com: So, the predictable effect will be that mid-size wikitravel language versions which did not moved to wikivoyage before August will rather stay on Wikitravel. There will be hard to find volunteers in these langauges ready to go through painful and time consuming process of incubator as there is already working wiki that anyone can join without any obstacles... I don't think this is necessarily true, even if it is an important risk and one of the reasons I've asked the questions originally. For instance, the Romanian Wikitravel was virtually dead, but some people from ro.wp expressed interest in contributing to the new site if it has a Romanian version. It's correct that the dumps of all languages from August 2012 are available at Wikivoyage saved as XML files. But these files could not be used to publish them immediately because they contain a lot of spam which must be removed by the community before. But the communities are missing. In some cases it makes sense to think about establishing a language branch from scratch. See also the interest list at http://www.wikivoyage.org/general/Interest_in_starting_a_new_language_version at least five authors and admins should show their interest in helping to migrate the wikis. I personally don't see much value in starting a new project on Wikivoyage now (except perhaps to avoid the Incubator, which is a more bureaucratic process). One of the reasons people did not contribute to Wikitravel was that it was different (e.g. different accounts, extensions etc.) Strainu ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update
Hoi, From my perspective, what is relevant is that we do not want to interfere with languages that exist in Wikitravel. It is quite likely that most of these languages are quite good from a localisation point of view. What makes sense if several languages are not in Wikivoyage yet, we can extend our waiver for going through the incubator for a set period ... something like a year or the end of 2013 ? Our point is not to hinder the start of existing communities in a new to be created Wikivoyage instance. All the details mentioned in this mail thread have not been considered by the language committee but I do not believe it will be a problem by any of its members. Thanks, Gerard On 17 October 2012 11:07, Juergen Fenn schneeschme...@googlemail.comwrote: 2012/10/17 Tomasz Ganicz polime...@gmail.com: Probably a practical question: As Wikitravel closed the API in August, there is probably no more data that Wikivoyage could rescue from the project than now is available in Wikivoyage. If a language community needs a fresh start in Wikivoyage it would have to begin from the very beginning. In this case it would be best to go through Incubator. So, the predictable effect will be that mid-size wikitravel language versions which did not moved to wikivoyage before August will rather stay on Wikitravel. There will be hard to find volunteers in these langauges ready to go through painful and time consuming process of incubator as there is already working wiki that anyone can join without any obstacles... Maybe, maybe not. First of all, Wikitravel is to blame because they hinder free content from being used according to its license. But perhaps it would be possible to migrate language versions even though to Incubator and then to new Wikivoyage proper. Regards, Jürgen. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update
And Portuguese WikiTravel? Which has nearly 3000 articles, ie more than WikiTravel in Spanish, which also is not listed, and has more than ru and sv, which were imported. And updates are occurring. On 17 October 2012 08:27, Strainu strain...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/10/17 Roland Unger roland.un...@soziologie.uni-halle.de: 2012/10/17 Juergen Fenn schneeschme...@googlemail.com: 2012/10/17 Deryck Chan deryckc...@wikimedia.hk: I think Strainu is referring to languages that exist on Wikitravel but not Wikivoyage. Probably a practical question: As Wikitravel closed the API in August, there is probably no more data that Wikivoyage could rescue from the project than now is available in Wikivoyage. If a language community needs a fresh start in Wikivoyage it would have to begin from the very beginning. In this case it would be best to go through Incubator. That's not precisely true. With enough determination, the content can be extracted from Wikitravel, even now. Hell, even copy-paste would work to some extent. But I remember that the archive team said they had a dump from August 2011 for all the Wikitravel languages and private persons might have more recent dumps. Can't those be used? 2012/10/17 Tomasz Ganicz polime...@gmail.com: So, the predictable effect will be that mid-size wikitravel language versions which did not moved to wikivoyage before August will rather stay on Wikitravel. There will be hard to find volunteers in these langauges ready to go through painful and time consuming process of incubator as there is already working wiki that anyone can join without any obstacles... I don't think this is necessarily true, even if it is an important risk and one of the reasons I've asked the questions originally. For instance, the Romanian Wikitravel was virtually dead, but some people from ro.wp expressed interest in contributing to the new site if it has a Romanian version. It's correct that the dumps of all languages from August 2012 are available at Wikivoyage saved as XML files. But these files could not be used to publish them immediately because they contain a lot of spam which must be removed by the community before. But the communities are missing. In some cases it makes sense to think about establishing a language branch from scratch. See also the interest list at http://www.wikivoyage.org/general/Interest_in_starting_a_new_language_version at least five authors and admins should show their interest in helping to migrate the wikis. I personally don't see much value in starting a new project on Wikivoyage now (except perhaps to avoid the Incubator, which is a more bureaucratic process). One of the reasons people did not contribute to Wikitravel was that it was different (e.g. different accounts, extensions etc.) Strainu ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com +55 11 97 97 18 884 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update
And Portuguese WikiTravel? Which has nearly 3000 articles, ie more than WikiTravel in Spanish, which also is not listed, and has more than ru and sv, which were imported. And updates are occurring. There is up to now no community (5 persons) who helps migrating the content. See: http://www.wikivoyage.org/general/Interest_in_starting_a_new_language_version Roland On 17 October 2012 08:27, Strainu strain...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/10/17 Roland Unger roland.un...@soziologie.uni-halle.de: 2012/10/17 Juergen Fenn schneeschme...@googlemail.com: 2012/10/17 Deryck Chan deryckc...@wikimedia.hk: I think Strainu is referring to languages that exist on Wikitravel but not Wikivoyage. Probably a practical question: As Wikitravel closed the API in August, there is probably no more data that Wikivoyage could rescue from the project than now is available in Wikivoyage. If a language community needs a fresh start in Wikivoyage it would have to begin from the very beginning. In this case it would be best to go through Incubator. That's not precisely true. With enough determination, the content can be extracted from Wikitravel, even now. Hell, even copy-paste would work to some extent. But I remember that the archive team said they had a dump from August 2011 for all the Wikitravel languages and private persons might have more recent dumps. Can't those be used? 2012/10/17 Tomasz Ganicz polime...@gmail.com: So, the predictable effect will be that mid-size wikitravel language versions which did not moved to wikivoyage before August will rather stay on Wikitravel. There will be hard to find volunteers in these langauges ready to go through painful and time consuming process of incubator as there is already working wiki that anyone can join without any obstacles... I don't think this is necessarily true, even if it is an important risk and one of the reasons I've asked the questions originally. For instance, the Romanian Wikitravel was virtually dead, but some people from ro.wp expressed interest in contributing to the new site if it has a Romanian version. It's correct that the dumps of all languages from August 2012 are available at Wikivoyage saved as XML files. But these files could not be used to publish them immediately because they contain a lot of spam which must be removed by the community before. But the communities are missing. In some cases it makes sense to think about establishing a language branch from scratch. See also the interest list at http://www.wikivoyage.org/general/Interest_in_starting_a_new_language_version at least five authors and admins should show their interest in helping to migrate the wikis. I personally don't see much value in starting a new project on Wikivoyage now (except perhaps to avoid the Incubator, which is a more bureaucratic process). One of the reasons people did not contribute to Wikitravel was that it was different (e.g. different accounts, extensions etc.) Strainu ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com +55 11 97 97 18 884 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update
Now, we have five :D On 17 October 2012 10:29, Roland Unger roland.un...@soziologie.uni-halle.de wrote: And Portuguese WikiTravel? Which has nearly 3000 articles, ie more than WikiTravel in Spanish, which also is not listed, and has more than ru and sv, which were imported. And updates are occurring. There is up to now no community (5 persons) who helps migrating the content. See: http://www.wikivoyage.org/general/Interest_in_starting_a_new_language_version Roland On 17 October 2012 08:27, Strainu strain...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/10/17 Roland Unger roland.un...@soziologie.uni-halle.de: 2012/10/17 Juergen Fenn schneeschme...@googlemail.com: 2012/10/17 Deryck Chan deryckc...@wikimedia.hk: I think Strainu is referring to languages that exist on Wikitravel but not Wikivoyage. Probably a practical question: As Wikitravel closed the API in August, there is probably no more data that Wikivoyage could rescue from the project than now is available in Wikivoyage. If a language community needs a fresh start in Wikivoyage it would have to begin from the very beginning. In this case it would be best to go through Incubator. That's not precisely true. With enough determination, the content can be extracted from Wikitravel, even now. Hell, even copy-paste would work to some extent. But I remember that the archive team said they had a dump from August 2011 for all the Wikitravel languages and private persons might have more recent dumps. Can't those be used? 2012/10/17 Tomasz Ganicz polime...@gmail.com: So, the predictable effect will be that mid-size wikitravel language versions which did not moved to wikivoyage before August will rather stay on Wikitravel. There will be hard to find volunteers in these langauges ready to go through painful and time consuming process of incubator as there is already working wiki that anyone can join without any obstacles... I don't think this is necessarily true, even if it is an important risk and one of the reasons I've asked the questions originally. For instance, the Romanian Wikitravel was virtually dead, but some people from ro.wp expressed interest in contributing to the new site if it has a Romanian version. It's correct that the dumps of all languages from August 2012 are available at Wikivoyage saved as XML files. But these files could not be used to publish them immediately because they contain a lot of spam which must be removed by the community before. But the communities are missing. In some cases it makes sense to think about establishing a language branch from scratch. See also the interest list at http://www.wikivoyage.org/general/Interest_in_starting_a_new_language_version at least five authors and admins should show their interest in helping to migrate the wikis. I personally don't see much value in starting a new project on Wikivoyage now (except perhaps to avoid the Incubator, which is a more bureaucratic process). One of the reasons people did not contribute to Wikitravel was that it was different (e.g. different accounts, extensions etc.) Strainu ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com +55 11 97 97 18 884 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com +55 11 97 97 18 884 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 11:47:42AM -0700, Erik Moeller wrote: Hi folks, a quick update on the launch of a travel project under the WMF umbrella, and the import of the existing Wikivoyage site. 3 3 3 sincerely, Kim Bruning ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] IRC office hours with the Language Engineering team 2012-09-17 16:30 UTC
Hello, Starting in 20 minutes from now. Regards, Srikanth L On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 5:52 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan (WMF) slakshma...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hello everyone, You're invited to the IRC office hours with the Language Engineering team[1] at the Wikimedia Foundation. Date: 2012-10-17 Time: 16.30 UTC Venue: #wikimedia-office Agenda: 1. ULS Project Milkshake updates. 2. Translation UI/UX design findings 3. Q A For more logistical info and time conversion links check the page on Meta[2]. Thanks, and we hope to talk to you soon! [1] http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Language_Engineering_team [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours -- Srikanth L Wikimedia Language Engineering Team -- Srikanth L Wikimedia Language Engineering Team ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Bon voyage, Jay
Forwarding, as this doesn't yet seem to have made it through from the Announce list. (Possibly because of the HTML format. The message can also be read at http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaannounce-l/2012-October/000500.html .) -- Forwarded message -- From: Geoff Brigham gbrig...@wikimedia.org To: wikimediaannounc...@lists.wikimedia.org Cc: Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 11:28:13 -0700 Subject: Bon voyage, Jay Next week, we’re saying goodbye to our long-term Head of Communications, Jay Walsh. He will be starting shortly a new adventure working at a San Francisco based start-up in corporate communications. His last day at the Foundation will be Tuesday, October 23. The Foundation will be kicking off a search process for a new head of communications, and in the interim we’ll also be receiving communications strategy from our advisers at Minassian Media, a consultancy that helped us manage communications around Wikipedia’s tenth anniversary. Since Jay started at the Foundation in January 2008 he’s taken a lead role in shaping both the voice and identity of the Wikimedia Foundation, and has played a critical function in supporting our projects. He’s been our spokesperson on hundreds of media inquiries, helping to shape a positive and enlightened perspective on our projects in some of the biggest media outlets in the world. Jay has provided communications counsel on major initiatives to almost everyone at the Foundation, and I’m sure to many of you throughout our community. Since starting at WMF Jay has grown the communications team, which now includes roles supporting movement communications, global media outreach, and merchandise. Under his leadership we created and grew a blog which now sees up to 40 posts a month, a social media presence with over a million followers, and content published in many localized languages. Jay helped us bring the Foundation’s first four annual reports to the world, and he gave us a voice and open identity for great events like Wikipedia 10. We’ve been fortunate to have strong communications leadership for a period of rapid growth for our projects and our movement. Please join me in wishing Jay well on his next steps. We will miss him. -- Tilman Bayer Senior Operations Analyst (Movement Communications) Wikimedia Foundation IRC (Freenode): HaeB ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposed Wikimedia Medicine Thematic Organisation
On Oct 15, 2012 3:36 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote: James Heilman, 14/10/2012 22:18: Thematic organizations have the same amount of authority over content on Wikipedia as chapters. To spell this out clearly that means NONE. One does not put these sorts of details in a NGOs by laws [...] Actually, chapters do and very clearly, as a general rule. Aye. This is done to ensure the chapter cant legally exert influence over content or the community, but also to help shield the chapter from lawsuits about content. A medicine org needs to be very clear about this, as lawsuits for incorrect medical information will be very expensive. -- John Vandenberg ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Meeting on Monday with Group Contacts for WM IRC channels
Is there a log of this meeting? John Vandenberg. sent from Galaxy Note On Oct 15, 2012 5:15 AM, ENWP Pine deyntest...@hotmail.com wrote: Greetings, For those who might not have seen the announcements in #wikimedia-ops and other IRC channels: There will be a meeting with the Group Contacts for the WM IRC channels on Monday, October 15. Agenda and details are available at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC/Group_Contacts/Meetings/October_2012 So far, messages have been given in the following channels: #wikimedia #wikimedia-ops #wikimedia-commons #wikimedia-stewards #wikipedia #wikipedia-de #wikipedia-en #wikipedia-es #wikipedia-fr #wikipedia-it #wikipedia-nl #wikipedia-pl #wikipedia-ru I have attempted to contact people in these channels but didn’t get a reply, so if anyone who has competence in the language, please translate and forward this announcement. Additional languages are also welcome. #wikipedia-pt #wikipedia-ja #wikipedia-zh Thank you. Pine ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l