So just as a note from me personally (as a individual WMF Trustee member). What
I think is the general idea is that
1) Sue formulates her thoughts on meta rather than privately
2) This is influenced by the public discussion on meta
3) She wraps up at a certain point
4) and sends her final proposition to the board
5) And the board takes her proposition, and the feedback on meta (which she
will have included in her proposition) and makes a decision
And in this case I think that all of that was done. Its not a
community-consensus thing as far as I see. As your Board of Trustees (which
also includes your representation) its our task to make that final decision.
Having Sue prepare this decision in a public way is a great way of preparing
for that decision.
On 27 Oct 2012, at 10:32, ENWP Pine deyntest...@hotmail.com wrote:
I agree with Denny’s point about COIs in this discussion, and I believe that
the same issue has been raised regarding the FDC.
I find it helpful when people who have financial interests or other potential
COIs disclose that information in their statements on that Meta page and/or
in Wikimedia-l depending on where they make their comments, and I would be in
favor of a policy requiring that potential conflicts of interest be disclosed
in a situation like this. These potential COIs include being a staff member
of WMF whose budget or employment would be affected positively or negatively
by these proposed changes.
In my own case, I'm not a fellow or aspiring fellow, chapter executive, paid
researcher, or WMF staff person whose department would be affected by these
proposed changes, so I believe that as far as my own comments are concerned,
I can speak without a financial interest in the outcome of the discussion.
If we operate by consensus instead of by mere vote-counting, and if editors
and WMF staff participate in good faith, then hopefully there will be enough
balancing and give-and-take negotiation among those with COIs for a
supermajority consensus to solidify. The other option is to ask for people
who don’t have potential COIs to make a decision based on the opinions and
information provided by others. However, this may all be a moot issue since
it appears to me that Sue, a few of her chosen associates, and the Board
apparently intend to make decisions themselves, so the community discussion
on that Meta talk page will be used for discussion but not for finalizing a
decision. Someone please correct me if I’m mistaken.
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